*PLEASE* ... Help me QUIT! I'm overwhelmed & frustrated!!

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Maniacal

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GAH!! Now I'm ULTRA MEGA confused. I thought the only thing I needed to maintain my habit was liquid, and *occasionally* maybe a part every 3-6 months or something. Atomizers? For something you have to replace every 2-4 WEEKS, that's not necessarily something cheap. I know, I shouldnt even complain since Im going to save money in the long run, but the problem lies not so much in the price but the hassle of only being able to get the parts via online. Adapters? Mesh? Wick? O-rings? coils?? Huh,WHAT!? I bet u guys have to buy a ton of spare parts to ensure u can keep vaping uninterrupted, eh?

Anyone have a guesstimate on what it could possibly cost me to vape owning a Twist?
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I am agreeing with all the EGO starter kits,,,,,,,

I personally suggest you start with a cartomizer though, as opposed to any clearos, simply because they are easy, cheap and simple to use.

As for menthol, my daughter and I smoked Newport 100's (me for some 30 years), and we both recommend Vapor Dudes Ice Ice,,,,,,

after you've been doing this for a while, check out the DIY board and it's pretty simple to make your own menthol juice. You can adjust as much as you want until it's perfect that way,,,,,,and it's far cheaper too.
 

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GAH!! Now I'm ULTRA MEGA confused. I thought the only thing I needed to maintain my habit was liquid, and *occasionally* maybe a part every 3-6 months or something. Atomizers? For something you have to replace every 2-4 WEEKS, that's not necessarily something cheap. I know, I shouldnt even complain since Im going to save money in the long run, but the problem lies not so much in the price but the hassle of only being able to get the parts via online. Adapters? Mesh? Wick? O-rings? Coils?? Huh,WHAT!? I bet u guys have to buy a ton of spare parts to ensure u can keep vaping uninterrupted, eh?

Anyone have a guesstimate on what it could possibly cost me to vape owning a Twist?
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get cartomizers,,,,,,a pack of 5 runs me about 7.00 give or take,,,,,,,and I can use one for about 4-5 days.

that's pretty cheap when you compare to the cost of smoking.
 

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You don't need to replace the whole clearomizer, most have replaceable screw-in heads that are cheap to replace, ($1 to $1.50). With menthol, they won't need replacing that often either. Just rinse them out every 2nd or 3rd fill and the head should last you for many weeks. But you should have some spares around. (Sweet, dark bakery flavor liquids can gunk them up quickly).
 

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I think clearomizers are pretty easy to use. Unscrew the top, fill, screw on top, vape. When you want to change heads you unscrew the old one, screw in the new one.

I mainly use a Twist (actually a Spinner) and clearomizers. I went from spending $7 a day to $7 a week and that's mainly juice.

You live in Chicago, right? There are brick and mortar stores in Chicago that you can visit. The prices are usually (not always) a little higher than online but you don't have to wait or pay shipping. Somewhere online there is a list of all the B&M stores in the USA. Maybe I can find the link.
 
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GAH!! Now I'm ULTRA MEGA confused. I thought the only thing I needed to maintain my habit was liquid, and *occasionally* maybe a part every 3-6 months or something. Atomizers? For something you have to replace every 2-4 WEEKS, that's not necessarily something cheap. I know, I shouldnt even complain since Im going to save money in the long run, but the problem lies not so much in the price but the hassle of only being able to get the parts via online. Adapters? Mesh? Wick? O-rings? Coils?? Huh,WHAT!? I bet u guys have to buy a ton of spare parts to ensure u can keep vaping uninterrupted, eh?

Anyone have a guesstimate on what it could possibly cost me to vape owning a Twist?
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I understand the confusion. I would never recommend variable voltage and atomizers to someone just entering the vape scene. I was a Newport smoker as well, and found it hard to find something satisfying enough. Smokeless Image Volts are great mini ecigs, but their strongest menthol isn't strong enough sometimes. I would recommend checking out White Cloud. Their starter kits are pricey, but their disposables, called Flings are awesome. They have menthol in 36 mg, and even a whopping 54mg. Both are sure to satisfy. Be careful not to vape higher levels of nicotine for an extended period of time though. It's there for that quick fix. You can get a 10 pack of Flings at varying levels of strength for under $20 and they will last you quite awhile. In the meantime, check out Smokenjoey.com for great reviews for beginners. He covers all the basic starter kits from several manufacturers and doesn't overwhelm you with jargon. He also has his own online vape shop where you get Egos for a great price.
 

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Maniac, a cold shot does make the liquid taste colder. Taste is all subjective, however to me it seems to add more "realism" to the menthol taste and a little more throat hit. If I turn the volts up on my battery it seems to warm it up a bit while still keeping the benefits.
I'm a little over 3 weeks into this here, and haven't had to purchase any spare parts yet. Total juice cost (used not purchased) is around $20 right now. I spent that in 2 days smoking cigarettes so I'm ahead of the game already in savings I think. Keep the positive thoughts going....
 
Greetings,

Joined : June 29, 2013

Here’s my “Straight to the Point” view :
I can eat bananas, cherries, strawberries or drink coffee, pina-colada, root beer, cola ANYWHERE.
BUT
I can’t smoke my cigarette anywhere.

I’m NEW to vaping, in fact… my kit is coming in the mail soon.
My wish to all you DIY eliquid makers or developers…. :
Please replicate as many “commercial” brands as possible.
This endeavor could shut down all tobacco companies…. Isn’t that the goal to vaping ?
Change the world….one pack at a time.

I’m so confused when it comes to reviews on eliquids. Are there eliquid reviews here that are done
by veteran smokers rather than veteran vapers ? ?
Based on researching eliquids, its seems difficult to replicate analog cigarettes but who’s the closest ?
Why do those eliquids claiming to be close to analog cigarettes have a sweet flavor ?
Why are people (supposedly smokers or ex-smokers) comparing Mint to Menthol or Tobacco to Licorice ? ?
Confused…. I’m confused…..

I really…really…really want to see reviews from vapers (veteran or not) who have been smoking in excess of twenty years….. I would have a tendency to believe their reviews.
Please don’t hate me for posting this but when it comes to finding eliquids to try ….I’m at a total loss.
I wish there was a B&H Thread or Kool Thread or Camel Thread or Newport Thread or Djarium Thread….
Smokers…..when you do a review,…compare it to the analog cigarettes you used to smoke, that’s all.
You smokers who have smoked for many many years can help people like me (and Maniacal) out.
If you make a review on tobacco or menthol or clove flavors….tell us what ‘commercial’ brand you are comparing it to (preferably a commercial brand you used to smoke regularly) …. Please ?

It seems like more and more reviews are trying to get you to vape and not trying to get you to quit smoking (if that makes any sense). Then there are reviews that tell you vaping is MUCH cheaper than cigarettes yet the advice is to try as many eliquids as possible….how much is THAT gonna cost ?

Confused…… aye ya yieee….

In either case…. I care about my health. I’m gonna give vaping a shot.

I do appreciate all reviews.... Thanks
 

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Maniacal - if you're talking about the kit posted, yeah that's a basic Ego starter that you'll find in a lot of places...I paid $25 for just one battery and one clearomizer (the thing that screws onto the battery and holds the juice), so this is a killer price - but since it ships from China it takes a couple weeks. I have two of these kits on order myself (they have lots of other color choices too) as backups for me and the wife.

The reason I recommended that kit is because it has the Evod clearomizers attached to the batteries (the ones with the solid color and a little window to see the juice level, rather than other totally clear ones). I like them a lot because they're cheap and easy to see the juice levels inside - it's nice to keep a few of them around in case you have a problem with one or if, like me, you like to have a few different flavors of juice to switch up.

I would say it's a good idea to order juices now, as others have recommended - you're going to need them to use your e-cig when it shows up.

The difference between the regular batteries and the twist is the little twisty thing on the bottom of the battery, like this:

Joyetech Ego Twist

That will let you turn the power up or down to find the best level to vaporize your juices - some burn with too much power, others don't have much flavor with too little. A regular battery starts around 4.2v when charged, spends most of its life around 3.7v, and can fall as low as 3.2v when it's almost dead and needs a recharge. Again, it works for me (because I have a backup battery charged to switch to if it gets weak), but others swear by the adjustable voltage.

Back to those Evod clearomizers and the clearomizer/cartomizer debate - the coil head/atomizer (burner) is a little piece that screws into the bottom cap on the Evod, I've only replaced one of them and I've been using my Evods (granted, I spread my use across 3 tanks) for 3 weeks solid now. Most of the time you can clean them up by running under hot water and drying them out if they get gunked up, I do that every 3-4 tanks of juice or whenever I change flavors. They're cheap, and if you end up doing a Fasttech order I'd pick up 5 or so of them:

$1.28 EVOD Electronic Cigarettes Atomizer Heating Core - 2.4

Even if I was replacing a head with every single juice fill-up, it would cost me about $1.50 per tank including the juice, and 2 of those a day would beat the heck out of spending $6 a day on smokes. And that's a ridiculous exaggeration. Figure you might go through 1-2 heads a week (at $1 a pop if you buy 5 through the above link), plus whatever your juice costs - for me about a $5 Mt. Baker Vapor 15ml bottle a week. That's about two days of my cig budget, so I'd be saving if I hadn't wasted some money buying too-expensive equipment and juice from a local cig shop that didn't understand vaping off the bat, get addicted to toys and buy a bunch of things (including expensive glass Protanks for my citrus, cola, and cinnamon juices), and buy twice as much of all that stuff because my wife gets one of everything I get.

My sig line says I've spent a lot, but here's what I got for that: 6 standard batteries (4 more on the way), 4 top-coil clearomizers (that I realized I didn't like and switched to Evods, 17 Evods (2 that the wife and I broke before learning about "tank cracker" juices," 11 are still in the mail from Fasttech just because they're so cheap), 4 glass Protanks (2 are still in the packaging), 15 spare coils for the Evods and 5 for the Protanks (one package is opened, showing only one missing so far), 4 chargers, a toolbox from Home Depot to hold all my stuff, a pack of pipe cleaners to wipe out my tanks with, and about 15 bottles of juice (plus an "e-ashtray" I made drilling holes in a 2x6 cutoff). That's a virtual arsenal, and I should have enough hardware plus the replacement parts to maintain it for two people to use for 6 months or more, buying nothing else but juice. If you don't go overboard (or waste $100+ like I did buying overpriced/inferior products before learning my lesson), for $100 you should have a setup that will last for months on a few weeks' cig budget.

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Greetings,
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Welcome, Twenty! I'd recommend that you read a few other threads, make some comments and get your post count up to 5 so you can start your own thread on tobacco-tasting flavors. But for a brief reply, I tried to convert to vaping a few years ago on tobacco flavors, was disappointed with them all. I didn't even try to make it work this time, found some fruity stuff I swore I'd never try and ended up loving it. I do have one tobacco flavor that came in a pack of a dozen little bottles (Mt. Baker's RY4), haven't even tried it yet. I spent 15 years smoking mostly Marlboro light 100s, sometimes Camel Crush, Camel lights, Marlboro mediums or reds, Parlaiment blues, and Benson & Hedges way back in the day...not sure if that would qualify me as an "experienced" smoker or not, but if you get your own flavor thread up I'll look for it and will try out my RY4 and report back...
 

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There are lots of ways to get the best out of vaping. No two persons are the same, but I will say that NOT researching cost me money and time and unhappiness in the early days. I bought a lot of ineffective and morally indefensible products that promised to do things they couldn't.
In the end, I built a collection of batteries and clearomisers (and carto tanks) that worked for me and although I have spent a lot, I have spent less than on cigarettes. Best of all, my running costs are now low....$4 a day at a guess.
 

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I use the Joy Ego and have been more than happy with the the product. My suggestion to you is to start off with 24mg/36mg e- liquid. The lower mg e liquids might not be strong enough for you. I was a Marlboro smoker for 30 years and there is no way the 18mg was gonna cut it. I used 24/36mg e liquid for about a year and then gradually cut down; I am now using 16-18mg. I can't give any suggestions on what menthol to get since I didn't smoke menthol's...good luck!
 

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Did I already mention that I *love* you guys for all this advice? :blush:

In all honesty, I can say that saving money wasn't really a big factor for making this decision, oddly enough (although it should have been)
It's just because I switched to mainly homemade cigs, so that was the biggest chunk of savings right there. Now ... I'm not like some of you here that have had several PAD habits, but! That doesnt mean I love smoking any less than you, or factor into how attached I am. And I could bet my *life* that no single persons struggle is quite like another persons, so we have no way to gauge whether or not it would be more difficult to quit for several PAD-ers. It'd be cool though, wouldnt it? You could just rate your user level, look it up on a chart and find everything you need to know about the experience your abt to go through! :headbang::laugh: Anyways, the point I'm tryin to make here is ... I'm probably an estimated 12 smokes a day, but sometimes up to 15. So not quite a pack a day, but Im still pretty hardcore abt my smoking. Its that "love-hate" thing that I know all of u understand. I started rolling my own, and it basically cost me abt $35 every four days. So will I save money? Almost CERTAINLY. Its just like "hmm, I now saved enough money to buy myself a combo meal at a fast food place!" lol jk, u could get something *special* with *that* kind of money~:D Speaking of.. I saw that thread one day on the "things u buy with the money you saved from quitting smoking" or something of the like, it was pretty cool! :2cool:


A friend of mine ranted and raved abt some e-cigalike for several months. After some time, she made a post on facebook abt how she was screaming obscinities at her once precious e-cig, while smoking a marlboro black and rubbing it in its face (probably laughing maniacally). I was sad to see her go back and it also made me question my own ability to do the 'ol switcheroo. :smokie:
^^^That skinny little kit up there looks sooo slick! Are they really *all* that terrible? Would there be *any* benefit from getting one of those as well?

I'm making a list of all you guys' reccomendations, starting with the ones geared towards tasting like my Newports/strong menthol Kites, lowest to highest priced, then in order of how curious I am abt that particular flavor (highest to lowest, of course!) I wondered though ... since I am currently smoking menthol *tobacco* products, should I get a bottle or mix of half tobacco half menthol to make it taste like smoking? Everyone that advised me to try "X" juice only mentioned the menthol type, never the tobacco.
 

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Congrats on trying to quit, I did not intend to quit. just wanted to try and save some money. like a lot of people I too started with the poor cig-a-likes (BLU) and hated them. upgraded to a bigger battery and a clearomizer and that worked. what really helped me is that I learned how to rebuilt the clearomizers (now they sell replacement coils cheep) with out trying I am 16 days with out smokes. you can find a decent setup for cheep money.

good luck, you can do it
 

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***BIG NEWS FOR ME!***

Billbeckusa~Lemme ask u ... when u start off w/a higher level of nic (24 or 36, whichever) is that just something you do *in the beginning* to make things go more smoothly, but over time u need/want less nicotine? Ive always wondered why ppl chain vape, arent they getting SATISFIED enough? I would hate to always be chasing that "good feeling" that never seems to be good enough to put the darn thing down, I'd feel like a junkie.

Yes, the higher nicotine juice at first, just to help you power through your cravings. After a day or two for me, I was able to go down from 36 mg/ml to 24. It's been 4 months now, and I know that I can definitely go down again. Another 150 mills of juice to get through, and then the next batch at 18, for me. The chain vape thing is during the transition from analog to digital, or from time to time when you have the cravings for the analogs. Anyway, a heartfelt cheer for your return to the Forum. Vaping works and YOU CAN DO IT!
 
Yes, Maniacal, (Great name by the way) you are correct about what our smoking meant to us is the same regardless how long or how much we smoked. I was just as emotionally involved with my evil "friends" 25 years ago when I only smoked 1/2 pack to 1 pad as I was 4 weeks ago at 2 1/2 pad. The real difference is in the amount of nicotine and other chemicals that it takes to feed one's habit and the effect on one's health later rather than sooner. I sure hope the doctors find you fit for now and you get the help you need from all of us on the forum. I have found the e-juice flavors so much better tasting than my stinkies ever were and don't even worry about trying to match the flavor of my stinkies. The e-cigs are seem to be the one real chance at having a better life for all of us addicts and if I can do it, I just know that you can! Keep it simple!
 
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