Please stop sweating your hardware being banned.

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I'm not the least bit worried about hardware. As others have stated it would be virtually impossible to draft legislation for that.

It's my juices that I am worried about. I will never be able to duplicate my favorite juices and the possibility that I won't be able to buy them hacks me off no end.

And for me this is just one more thing among many. Our government was never intended to take care of us beyond providing for a common defense. It's not their place and they're just not good at it. Plus, who are they to tell me what I can and can't put in my own body? Everyone has grown so accustomed to having every single thing regulated that most no longer even question it. "Of course we need regulation!" I respectfully disagree with that sentiment. We don't need any more government interference, and in fact, we need a whole lot less. It's out of control. And I'm sick to death of it, personally.

Our government is riddled with corruption at every level. Any regulation will have zero to do with protecting our health or protecting children. It will have everything to do with appeasing BT lobbies by stomping small business owners into non existence and recovering revenue lost by smokers switching to vaping.

My favorite go to story that demonstrates this concept on a very local level goes something like this:
The city of Dallas mounted cams on intersections to catch people running red lights. They said it was to protect people from being injured or killed by people running them. It was for our safety. (That's always the rallying cry, isn't it?) But guess what? The cameras began working. People became aware of them and stopped running red lights in large numbers. Yay! Mission accomplished!

Or maybe not. See, the city of Dallas started losing large amounts of revenue at some intersections because people were obeying the law, so they TOOK THEM DOWN.

Do red light cameras work too well? - US news - Crime & courts | NBC News

Huh, wha? You mean it wasn't for our safety? What a huge surprise. -.-

Paranoia and overreaction doesn't benefit anyone, but vigilance and staying informed is never a bad thing. Those in "control" have demonstrated repeatedly that they will just keep taking as long as we allow it, so the fears are not unfounded. Instead of being divided over whether or not we have reason to worry, we should band together and let our voices be heard as a unit so that we don't have reason to worry.
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I'm not the least bit worried about hardware. As others have stated it would be virtually impossible to draft legislation for that.

It's my juices that I am worried about. I will never be able to duplicate my favorite juices and the possibility that I won't be able to buy them hacks me off no end.

And for me this is just one more thing among many. Our government was never intended to take care of us beyond providing for a common defense. It's not their place and they're just not good at it. Plus, who are they to tell me what I can and can't put in my own body? Everyone has grown so accustomed to having every single thing regulated that most no longer even question it. "Of course we need regulation!" I respectfully disagree with that sentiment. We don't need any more government interference, and in fact, we need a whole lot less. It's out of control. And I'm sick to death of it, personally.

Our government is riddled with corruption at every level. Any regulation will have zero to do with protecting our health or protecting children. It will have everything to do with appeasing BT lobbies by stomping small business owners into non existence and recovering revenue lost by smokers switching to vaping.

My favorite go to story that demonstrates this concept on a very local level goes something like this:
The city of Dallas mounted cams on intersections to catch people running red lights. They said it was to protect people from being injured or killed by people running them. It was for our safety. (That's always the rallying cry, isn't it?) But guess what? The cameras began working. People became aware of them and stopped running red lights in large numbers. Yay! Mission accomplished!

Or maybe not. See, the city of Dallas started losing large amounts of revenue at some intersections because people were obeying the law, so they TOOK THEM DOWN.

Do red light cameras work too well? - US news - Crime & courts | NBC News

Huh, wha? You mean it wasn't for our safety? What a huge surprise. -.-

Paranoia and overreaction doesn't benefit anyone, but vigilance and staying informed is never a bad thing. Those in "control" have demonstrated repeatedly that they will just keep taking as long as we allow it, so the fears are not unfounded. Instead of being divided over whether or not we have reason to worry, we should band together and let our voices be heard as a unit so that we don't have reason to worry.
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Well said!!! My feelings exactly.
 

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The attorney general in florida has been trying her hardest to have the hardware banned in florida. She has put every type of smoking device on her hit list, electronic and analog. Even menthol and flavors, siting peoples fears that kids will buy and use any and all of it.

I suppose that means flavored brandies are on the list then.

...and wine coolers, twisted tea, camel penis-nose ciggs

OH MY GOD SAVE THE CHILDREN!
 

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Well best way to make sure something is easy to find, make it illegal. Than instead of going across town to a shop you just go to the high school, arcade, or convenience store and ask a 15-20 something male if he doesn't have it on him he can get it in under half a hour (don't worry about whats in the e-juice you don't want to know)Because prohibition is so effective when it comes to saving us from ourselves. Lets face Gov't has a horrible record with harm reduction hope they don't keep it up.


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Well best way to make sure something is easy to find, make it illegal. Than instead of going across town to a shop you just go to the high school, arcade, or convenience store and ask a 15-20 something male if he doesn't have it on him he can get it in under half a hour (don't worry about whats in the e-juice you don't want to know)Because prohibition is so effective when it comes to saving us from ourselves. Lets face Gov't has a horrible record with harm reduction hope they don't keep it up.

That was I have been saying to the "gun ban" people. There is ALREADY a very well organized market with extensive distribution channels, who's sole purpose it is to procure, transport and sell ANY and ALL banned items, in every city, in every state, 24x7x365. I challenge them to name any one single item that is banned or even "controlled" (such as prescription meds) that is not already available in this market. So far no one has succeeded in naming one. All a ban will do is give this market something else to sell.
 

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Pbusardo posted a funny video on Youtube called Legal Vape 4000. When I watched it, though .. all I could think of was "they're not going to ban hardware, duh!"

I think a lot of people are misinformed or panicked about what's going to happen with regulation. As the OP said, hardware will never be banned. However, it may become useless if eliquid becomes hard to get. I don't know about you - but I'm not really going to vape 0 nic.

Personally - I don't see how eliquid could be banned, either. As long as nicotine is available in patches, gum and lozenges . .I don't see how it can be banned in eliquid. I do think they could put controls in place to *effectively* ban it, though . . like make it really hard to get, expensive or available only in very low strengths.
 

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And I have a FEMA camp in the Ozarks to sell you. Really people. Cigarettes are not banned. Taxed into oblivion I guess, but still quite accessible at any store, and online. Want minimal government interference in your lives? I hear you can buy lovely ocean front property in Somalia.

The statement about the govt of the people for the people and by the people struck a chord.
The FEMA camps ummmmmm
But our govt of the people by the people and for the people has imo long since disappeared.
It is now a govt of by the moneyed of the moneyed and for the moneyed (lobbyists corporations ).
Though I am glad, and not trying to hijack. But I am glad our voices are being heard about Syria.
On not on that Russian ships and Chinese ships are there...so the media isn't telling the entire story.
Also can u say false flag.
 

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I just wish I sold e-supplies so I could make a killing off of the paranoia.

Yes, that is what I said when the last wave of paranoia hit here. I also wasn't able to get stuff from my favorite DIY place, they were swamped and out of stock on stuff.

And that was at least 6 months ago, so still not sure what the *rush* was all about. It's like lemmings trying to see who can get to the high water mark first.

Ecigs that aren't VV are just battery holders, not a whole lot different than flashlight tubes with 510 atty connectors on top. Buy some 510 atty connectors if you want to hoard something :lol:

In my town there is at least 10 machine shop/metal shops and untold number of guys who have shops in their garage who could probably build me any kind of mod I wanted if I just drew them a picture of what I wanted.

They build airplanes, etc. so this would be like child's play for them.
 
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