Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

[Nach]

Genesis style atties are just plain awesome. We know the vape is superior. But there ARE ways around the leakiness, maybe not on all of them, but at least the ones with the same design as mine. Which is most of them out there. You're right though, we do need to see the genesis style evolve more. And that's where I believe that Super T is the right shop do just that. Between the marvelous mind of David and now the in house production.... I see no reason why Super T wont make their mark in the industry with their own line of atomizers. I'm a HUGE fan of genesis. I'm sold on not only the performance, but the principles behind it as well. But that being said, I would still probably buy a silica atty from Super T too

 

[Vcoupe]

Vcoupe, I've got three genesis atties on Super T mods, all of which I lay on their side. And while I'll always have a paper towel underneath to catch condensation, all my juice stays in their tanks. Perhaps there are a few tweaks I can share so you don't have this problem and can lay them down without worry.

Oh I know it's possible . I made little plugs for my juice inlets, it's that all my others Im used to standing up and I'm very careful with the metal finish so I'm always making sure there is something soft to lay it on. It's like Pepsi vs coke when you are used to Pepsi .

 

[ukeman]

Vcoupe, I've got three genesis atties on Super T mods, all of which I lay on their side. And while I'll always have a paper towel underneath to catch condensation, all my juice stays in their tanks. Perhaps there are a few tweaks I can share so you don't have this problem and can lay them down without worry.

I'm gonna have to look for some kind of "bed" or nest for my ELA... i've got time... how about an ELA Cradle that "rocks"?

i just know my other mechs are gonna be jealouzz

 

[Vcoupe]

Honestly, I hope the genesis saga is over soon. I think we're on the way there with some of the new silica atties that are coming out lately.

It seems like a huge step backward that everyone is purposely using an atomizer that leaks as a part of it's design. Not only that, most new high end atomizers are, in fact, genesis atomizers that leak by design. There hasn't been a whole lot of innovation in that area. I'm a non-frequent-poster and frequent-idler in two different modder forums (this one, and the GP one), and every time someone says, "oh please won't you make yet another genesis atomizer to match our awesome mod" I cringe. Why?

I understand why people use them, but I really wish people would stop putting their efforts into making new ones and instead innovate somewhere else. There are plenty of them out there already, all with the same basic function and same huge (in my opinion) flaws.

Ok Ok, my rant is over. I'm not even sure why I ranted it here other than there was genny talk going on. Carry on folks

I hear you bro... I really do. I'm in love with my kayfuns, GG, and silicas and believe that even they aren't the last answer due to the questionable safety of wick material (for any as of now). The build and maintenance of a TANK silica rba is not very futuristic either to be honest. Twisting NR wires together isn't rocket science or painful but it is more work for the GG, diver, steam machine etc.

On the contrary a Genesis in - my - eyes is simple to keep up. Coiling takes like 10 seconds and making a wick takes me 2-4 minutes. You can't beat that. You mentioned why hasn't anyone devised a leak- free design, well that's because I haven't introduced it yet . I know the Koreans have one out that is almost leak free.

People call this the golden age of vaping, I call it late stage infancy because this whole thing has been built by community people who have no formal training or real hard facts. Just wait till those people exist and you will really see a golden age, but in the meantime we can buy both methods and appreciate them for different reasons.

Now, when will the REAL great juices be made, because I feel the juice on the market can't keep up with the devices . I do enjoy my KBV ooey gooey though

 

[Steam_Bern]

Nach I know you love you gennies and so do I. I have a standard DID, a ZAP, 2 AGA-T2s and an RSST among others which work great. I have an Odysseus clone that I get along with but have not put enough time in to become really proficient. That being said, I got a Kayfun 3.1 and it really does blow everything else away! I build mine with microcoils and XC-132 and it is out of this world. Boba's is my ADV and the flavor is better out of the Kayfun than any of my gennies - if you have a chance get one, all the hype is real. Even my girlfriend admits it after giving me hell for buying into said hype - she took one hit and now believes. Protip - use the supplied mouthpiece instead of your own drip tip, it concentrates the flavor even more. It's also very simple to build.

That being said, I believe that David, the mad genius, has something completely different and new for us. He is, after all, an innovator and not one to follow .

 

[synic]

Vcoupe, I've got three genesis atties on Super T mods, all of which I lay on their side. And while I'll always have a paper towel underneath to catch condensation, all my juice stays in their tanks. Perhaps there are a few tweaks I can share so you don't have this problem and can lay them down without worry.

I would like to know the tweaks How are you keeping your genesis atomizers from leaking?

 

[Steam_Bern]

I would like to know the tweaks How are you keeping your genesis atomizers from leaking?

One thing that works is leaving the fill plug in while having a wick small enough to allow air into the tank while being large enough that the surface tension of the juice does not let it spill out.

Of course a ZAP has no fill plug

 

[ukeman]

Genesis vs Silica.. different vape... imo the silica based attys have a smoother vape where the Geni's are a little spicier; subjective i know but i kinda think most would agree.
I think its best to have both...

FWIW, Like HillGiant said, the Kayfun is an over-engineered device... it can be done more simply... i'm waiting for my i.e. Prometey and Big Ben (Art of Exhale) to show up... it's like waiting for ELA btw. They are like the Kayfun silica wick and tank.

I have about 6 high end Geni's and can't make up my mind which to let go of... i never intended to have so much gear
and more than that in silica... only one with nr/r wire though, the Pene... i refuse to do that nr/r thing.

starting to rant... NO MORE TINY COIL Post/base atomizers for me! period!

 

[Vcoupe]

The tip is... Don't tip lol. Make sure the wick is fat to fully fill the wick hole, keep your air hole to the sky, and plug the remaining full holes, or U wick holes. But then you do that and lose air flow/ wicking. If the mod stays level laying down its no issue ever. My Fogatti has air control which lets me twist the top cap to fully close but what about the drip tip?

 

[Freckle]

After buying the kayfun, I had to lower my nic by half. Actually thinking about lowering it again. I love the immortalizer cause of the vapor and flavor, but even me a hard core dripper loves the idea behind a tank. The kayfun supplied me with a build that taste as great as a dripper and some pretty dern good vapor but with a feed system on it.

Kayfun is some awesome stuff, awesome. I can honestly say, I am set till David comes out with his. though I have been tempted to pick up the kayfun mini. Who knows! I heard that the flavor and vapor on the mini is even more intense. WOW can't imagine!

 

[Steam_Bern]

...the Kayfun is an over-engineered device...

I agree with this but I like over engineered devices as long as they are not overly complicated. The Kayfun is simple to setup and just works. You don't need to trick it not to short out and not to leak. On top of this the flavor is the most pure and most intense I have yet experienced, right there with dripping.

 

[ukeman]

I've got my Kayfun 3.1 with its first coil at .66 ohms... its a bit too too... but nice most the time; next build will be about 1.0 ohms...

Wow wonder if David is thinking of silica wick with tank for SuperT atomizer...

Up to now, best flavor for me is my dual wick drippers (forge/clone, and nimbus)... even at low low ohms, the vape is smooth and vaporfull... (eats lots of juice/wipes out batt times/nic and vapor overload)

ps.. folks talk about silica and lungs, and cutting nic for health reasons, i wonder if blasting our lungs with even low nic vapor in humongous amounts of vapor is all that good for us. there's got to be a balance.

 

[synic]

After buying the kayfun, I had to lower my nic by half. Actually thinking about lowering it again. I love the immortalizer cause of the vapor and flavor, but even me a hard core dripper loves the idea behind a tank. The kayfun supplied me with a build that taste as great as a dripper and some pretty dern good vapor but with a feed system on it.

Kayfun is some awesome stuff, awesome. I can honestly say, I am set till David comes out with his. though I have been tempted to pick up the kayfun mini. Who knows! I heard that the flavor and vapor on the mini is even more intense. WOW can't imagine!

I don't know what's happening to me, but in the last few months, I've gone from 18 to 12 to 9 to 6 and I think maybe even 6 is starting to be too much. I really must be vaping differently or something. It's not like I've given myself a break to let my tolerance get down or anything. I've been using various RBAs and other toppers in all that time, and right now I'm basically just using Cisco 510s most of the time.

Perhaps it's all the smoke ring practice I've been doing. Perhaps it was the change from lung draw to mouth draw. All I know is a couple big hits with the kayfun using 6mg and I'm already nic sick. I'm starting to think that if eliquid does get banned, it really won't be a big deal for me to go to 0mg DIY.

 

[Freckle]

From how I read it, a permanent wick that the user doesn't have to replace with an automatic feed system. Which makes me believe there will be a tank. That a user can use silica or mesh with it. From how I hear it, we all should be happy.

 

[Freckle]

I don't know what's happening to me, but in the last few months, I've gone from 18 to 12 to 9 to 6 and I think maybe even 6 is starting to be too much. I really must be vaping differently or something. It's not like I've given myself a break to let my tolerance get down or anything. I've been using various RBAs and other toppers in all that time, and right now I'm basically just using Cisco 510s most of the time.

Perhaps it's all the smoke ring practice I've been doing. Perhaps it was the change from lung draw to mouth draw. All I know is a couple big hits with the kayfun using 6mg and I'm already nic sick. I'm starting to think that if eliquid does get banned, it really won't be a big deal for me to go to 0mg DIY.

I seemed to get stuck at 12mg for almost a year. Every time I lowered it I would have withdraws. Then maybe 9 months ago I dropped to 11 and then to 10 within a few days. then maybe 3 or 4 months ago I dropped to 8mg. Few days after having the kayfun I dropped to 4, and last night I started getting nic sick. I seriously may mix up a batch of 0mg and see how it goes.

 

[Steam_Bern]

I have at least a year's worth of 18mg that I don't wish to dilute. The Kayfun makes my head spin like nothing else but I like it!

 

[forcedfuel50]

Performs well. My 2 big gripes are the fact that it's so heavy and has a tapered design bottom so it becomes a heavy table/ surface wrecker if it falls, and the locking ring over time starts to lose grip so you need to really crank it down and mark up your inner ring which I've had to sand out twice.

You must have something defective. We've encountered zero issues with the locking ring. You shouldn't have to crank it down super tight (just a firm tightening, nothing you need overly crank on as you describe) and it shouldn't lose grip over time as you describe (we accounted for that in the design) or mark up the tube at all when tightened down. Obviously the tube can get surface scratches over time from sliding in and out when changing batteries, but tightening it down, even very tight shouldn't leave any mark what so ever. '

Send it in and we'll make it right, it has a lifetime warranty:

Send to:

Super T
Box 331
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379

 

[forcedfuel50]

That's interesting, my locking ring has been rock solid and has made no marks on my extension tube. Of course I've only had mine for a week but I don't see it changing without some abuse on my part.

Lol, what ? True that during the long run that might be possibility, V, but during the short period that we had it, it's a impossibility.
Nic

Put the battery in the ext tube part first. Mine is as firm as the day I got it. My hands are getting firmer though. Nothing like man hands on a woman.

Don't know what you've been doing but I'm fairly certain my locking ring hasn't lost its grip or loosened it at all.

Yes exactly. We've been testing them for months in house, never have experienced any issues. Its not a wear item per se, maybe after a long, long time it could start to wear a bit, but we even accounted for that by machining in extra wear room for it to keep clamping like new for a long time. His would have to be defective and we will make it right for him.

 

[Steam_Bern]

I've got my Kayfun 3.1 with its first coil at .66 ohms... its a bit too too... but nice most the time; next build will be about 1.0 ohms...

I like my Kayfun best with microcoils at 1.1 ohms. As far as silica lungs, as long as your wick is wet you will not inhale wick material and even if you did as long as you are vaping amorphous and not crystalline silica you will be fine. SOP for keeping dust particles out of the air is to wet them. I believe most if not all of the silica we use as wicking material is amorphous silica. Ecowool is for sure. Yes, I am a chemist.

 

[Freckle]

Yes, I am a chemist.

Don't let many hear that unless you are ready to be tested. Ha Ha oh goodness, long story I am sure many are well aware of why I say that.... B.E. That is all I will say on that one.


Edit::


Sorry David for posting off topic while you are trying to take care of a concern.