The aren't sealed and are very weak. I tried a whole bunch of 510's. For this application the KR808s beat the 510's pretty easily.
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The aren't sealed and are very weak. I tried a whole bunch of 510's. For this application the KR808s beat the 510's pretty easily.
It was too long for some things, you had to be careful to not let juice get into the battery because of where the air hole.
Technically what I wanted could have already existed long ago. It is just the right combination and mess ups.
The eroll failed for three reasons.
One was the tank, it was friction fit. If I dropped one in a pocket lose it was guaranteed to leak all the juice into the pocket doing nothing more than natural walking for 50 yards. It was fine if you were setting at a desk or watching TV but I have Provaries for that. It didn't take much activity to loosen the tank while just folding laundry, you can't run with the dogs, the tank comes lose when gripped in your teeth. Ovale and Joye got a lot of complaints on leaky tanks. Those things had to rid in the charging thingy for transport or they would come undone. The emini duo had a threaded tank that should not have the issue of coming loose so easily.
The way the eroll attached in the middle was not threads but a little nub and a partial turn. It is very weak there, the case protects but you cannot carry it loose. The flexing of going from standing to sitting on the ground when lose in a pocket can mess up the part that catches the nub.
The very best of the KR808's could actually out performed the Eroll, the KR808's were also a bit on the long side. If the Eroll was threaded instead of friction and nub fitted I would have kept it.
The Eroll didn't have threads because they were trying to make it as small as possible but the lack of theads makes it fragile for loose carry. The Emini duo is a little thicker so it can be full threaded.
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The eroll fought so hard to be small that they made it good for stealth vapers and people who type with one in there mouth but it can't survive being loose in a pocket, they compromised it for me. They recognized the same thing I did and that's why the emini duo came out, to fix these issues.
I got pretty upset after about the 6 or 7 time in a few days the tanks emptied out in a pocket. It was frustrating and I never want to see the eroll again.
Here is why I carry them lose in a pocket and don't use a case. I can be carrying a sack or a bag, be holding a handle bar, or what ever with one hand and the other hand can either put it back In a pocket or pull one out.
When using a charging case to carry it you need two hand to put it away or get it out. My last back sliding was replacing fixing the float on a toilet.
I know I have habits that are hard for me to control. I am kind of weak when it comes to my addiction. I went through about 15 stinkies last month.
I got pretty upset after about the 6 or 7 time in a few days the tanks emptied out in a pocket. It was frustrating and I never want to see the eroll again.
Here is why I carry them lose in a pocket and don't use a case. I can be carrying a sack or a bag, be holding a handle bar, or what ever with one hand and the other hand can either put it back In a pocket or pull one out.
When using a charging case to carry it you need two hand to put it away or get it out. My last back sliding was replacing fixing the float on a toilet.
I know I have habits that are hard for me to control. I am kind of weak when it comes to my addiction. I went through about 15 stinkies last month.
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I am kind of in the same boat as you. I chain vape in a bad way, if I don't vape I will pick up a stinky. 3ml will never last me a day.
Did you take a look at this auto kit - Ovale Eleaf Mini Auto
Eleaf Mini iKit Automatic Kit
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Yep, 3.2v regulated, lower output, V4L beats it. On this size device I am aware of most that exist. I loaded up a ton of stuff I tried and gave much of it away out here and other places. You name it I have probably tried it.
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Here's one... The Only One that I know of. Located in FLA
I called them up about a week ago.
ovale usa - Google Search
That is the importer, distributor for North America. They told me they will not be getting the emini duo.
We have spoken on this before....the smallest auto v4l is it 7mm with small clero 12 mm. You don't have longevity but form factor is there. I have used them extensively between my teeth and in various hands free activities, seem to hold up well.
They come the closest to what I am looking for that I have tried but they are falling short for me. I have tried the clero route and walked away from it.
What I really want would probably be a $200.00 cigalike if it was mass produced. There is something in Europe that should meet my requirements better than the VL4's but I can't get anyone to sell it to me. What is in Europe will not be my unicorn but on paper it should be better than anything I have tried and will probably meet my minimum expectations. I have about 20 of the stealth titans in my desk, I want better than what they can do in both form factor and performance.
I will be interested to hear about the Emini WHEN you get it 
I will be interested to hear about the Emini WHEN you get it
I have been trying really hard to get one every since I looked at the drawings. It's not perfect but it should be better than anything in its class for meeting my requirements that I have tried.
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I have to get ready to work but will check for Latvia tonight.
I would try Ovale France shipping to Latvia first, since it's on sale there.
e Mini Duo - Cigarettes Électroniques - Produits - OVALE France
ETA: For reference I checked nearby countries for distributors:
Finland - No Ovale
Estonia - No Ovale
Latvia: No Ovale
Lithuania - No Ovale
Belarus - No Ovale
Finland - No Ovale
Norway - No Ovale
Sweden - No Ovale
Ovale Russia - currently OOS for the e-mini duo
Ovale Poland: e Mini Duo - E-Mini DUO - Electronic Cigarettes - Products - OVALE Poland (I don't understand their currency)
Ovale Germany: e Mini Duo - E-Mini DUO - Elektrische Zigaretten - Produkte - OVALE Deutschland
Ovale Netherlands: Kit eMini DUO - eMini DUO - Elektronische sigaretten - Producten - OVALE Nederland (Low price alert! - Although not as low as France)
(I'm just picking random countries now)
Ovale Bulgaria - currently not carrying the device
Hungary - No Ovale
Czech Republic - No Ovale
Ovale Romania - currently not carrying the device
Ovale Turkey - Carries the e-mini Duo, but the price is almost double. €169.00!!
Ovale Spain - e Mini Duo - eMini DUO - Cigarrillos Electrónicos - Productos - OVALE España
Ovale Cyprus - e Mini Duo - Electronic Cigarettes - Προϊόντα - OVALE Cyprus
And, of course, we already know about the UK, France, Italy, Greece and Thailand (when they stabilize their government).
What the heck is wrong with Ovale USA/Canada? How can a device be carried in other countries close enough to easily ship to each other, but we don't have anything? Our region is bigger than all of their countries put together (excluding Russia, but they are OOS).
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I can't find a shop in Latvia. I am going to email the places that turned down North America and see if they will ship to Latvia.
France has not replied yet to my first email.
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