ProChat - All Things ProVape and Beyond

[coldgin96]

Just so we're all clear..... I'm pretty sure that Mr. 'Brow meant anything is up for discussion here, as long as it's respectful to Provape.

EXACTLEY! The title is, "ProChat - All Things ProVape and Beyond." Notice the, "Beyond" part...

 

[ENAUD]

We called it poo or the other word for it.


Vote Trump. I love my P3 and Radius.

My stash is about 240 ml of juice , a bunch of kayfuns, 2 provari's, wire, cotton and a partridge in a pear tree.

I look at this way during prohibition there was no shortage of booze.

i think if there is a will there is a way. vaping may go underground but there are enough folks with deep stashes, and I include commercial juice mixers here, because, let's not kid ourselves, some of them are probably itching to cash in on back room juice. Folks will find a way, and things will continue to be available through some means. Americans love prohibition. It is the free market of free markets. Metropolitain residents will likely be better off than the rural dwellers, but I know a few convenience stores that sell off brand vape things. This phenomena is deeply embedded in our economy. Folks aren't going to just walk away from a quick buck. The silly FDA don't have a clue what they are dealing with. Grass roots are hard to kill, you get sore fingers really fast trying to pull them things out.

 

[DPLongo22]

i think if there is a will there is a way. Vaping may go underground but there are enough folks with deep stashes, and I include commercial juice mixers here, because, let's not kid ourselves, some of them are probably itching to cash in on back room juice. Folks will find a way, and things will continue to be available through some means. Americans love prohibition. It is the free market of free markets. Metropolitain residents will likely be better off than the rural dwellers, but I know a few convenience stores that sell off brand vape things. This phenomena is deeply embedded in our economy. Folks aren't going to just walk away from a quick buck. The silly FDA don't have a clue what they are dealing with. Grass roots are hard to kill, you get sore fingers really fast trying to pull them things out.

And 10 million vapers equals one HECK of a black market.

 

[JUMA55]

Something needs to change

Dec. 26, 2000 — Wakefield, Mass.
Michael McDermott, 42, shot and killed seven coworkers at Edgewater Technology using several weapons, including an AK-47.

March 12, 2005 — Brookefield, Wis.
Terry Ratzmann, 44, shot and killed seven members of the Living Church of God at a Sheraton hotel with a 9mm handgun before committing suicide.

March 21, 2005 — Red Lake, Minn.
Jeffrey Weise, 16, shot and killed 10 people before turning the gun on himself, including his grandfather and a police officer, using several weapons, including a 12 gauge shotgun.

Jan. 30, 2006 — Goleta, Calif.
Former postal worker Jennifer San Marco, 44, shot and killed seven people, including several former coworkers, and herself.

Oct. 2, 2006 — Lancaster County, Pa.
Charles Carl Roberts IV shot and killed five female students inside an Amish schoolhouse using several weapons before committing suicide.

Feb. 12, 2007 — Salt Lake City, Utah
Sulejman Talovic, 18, killed five people at Trolley Square Mall with two weapons before he was shot and killed by police.

April 16, 2007 — Blacksburg, Va.
College student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people on the campus of Virgina Tech with two weapons before taking his own life.

Oct. 7, 2007 — Crandon, Wis.
Sheriff's deputy Tyler Peterson, 20, shot and killed six people at a post-Homecoming party in an apartment before committing suicide. He used a semiautomatic rifle.

Dec. 5, 2007 — Omaha, Neb.
Robert A. Hawkins killed eight people and himself using a semiautomatic rifle after entering the Westroads Mall.

Feb. 2, 2008 — Kirkwood, Mo.
Charles Lee Thornton, 52, entered a public city council meeting and shot and killed five people with two handguns before he was shot and killed by police.

Feb. 14, 2008 — Dekalb, Ill.
Steven Kazmierczak, 27, shot and killed five people on the campus of Northern Illinois University with several semiautomatic weapons before killing himself.

June 25, 2008 — Henderson, Ky.
Wesley Neal Higdon, 25, killed five people at Atlantis Plastics Factory with a semiautomatic weapon before taking his own life.

April 3, 2009 — Binghamton, N.Y.
Jiverly Antares Wong, a 41-year-old naturalized American citizen from Vietnam, shot and killed 14 people at the American Civic Association with two weapons before killing himself.

August 3, 2010 — Manchester, Conn.
Omar Thorton, 34, entered a warehouse owned by his former employer, Hartford Distributors, and shot and killed eight people with two semiautomatic weapons before committing suicide.

Sept. 6, 2011 — Carson City, Nev.
Eduardo Sencion, 32, opened fire with a semiautomatic rifle in an IHOP restaurant, killing four people and himself.

July 20, 2012 — Aurora, Col.
James Holmes, 25, shot and killed 12 people in a movie theater during the premier of "The Dark Knight Rises" using several weapons, including a semiautomatic rifle.

Aug. 5, 2012 — Oak Creek, Wis.
Wade Michael Page, 40, killed four people with a semiautomatic weapon inside a Sikh temple before turning the gun on himself.

Dec. 14, 2012 — Newtown, Conn.
Adam Lanza, 20, shot and killed his mother and 26 people inside Sandy Hook Elementary School before turning the gun on himself.

March 13, 2013 — Herkimer, N.Y.
Kurt Meyers, 64, killed four people at a carwash and barber shop with a shotgun before he was shot and killed by police.

Sept. 16, 2013 — Washington, D.C.
Aaron Alexis, 34, shot and killed 12 people inside the Washington Navy Yard with a 12-gauge shotgun before he was shot and killed by police.

June 7, 2013 — Santa Monica, Calif.
John Zawahri, 23, opened fire in a home and later on the campus of Santa Monica College, killing five people with a semiautomatic rifle. He was killed during a shootout with police.

July 26, 2013 — Hialeah, Fla.
Pedro Alberto Vargas, 42, shot and killed six people with a semiautomatic weapon in his apartment complex before setting fire to his own apartment. He was shot and killed by a SWAT team.

September 14, 2014 — Bell, Fla.
Don C. Spirit, 51, shot and killed his granddaughter and six grandchildren before turning the gun on himself.

May 17, 2015 — Waco, Tx.

Rival motorcycle gangs kill nine at a restaurant in Waco, Texas. There were over 170 arrests made after the incident.

June 17, 2015 — Charleston, S.C.
Dylann Roof, 21, walks into am historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina and kills nine people.


Oct. 1, 2015 — Roseburg, OR.
Christopher Harper-Mercer enters Umpqua Community College in southwest Oregon, opens fire and kills nine, wounding seven others before police shoot him to death.

November 27, 2015 — Colorado Springs, CO

Robert Lewis Dear storms in a Planned Parenthood health clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado and kills three people and wounding nine.

December 2, 2015 — San Bernardino, CA.

A man and a woman walk into a holiday party both armed with assault weapons and kill 14 people and wounding 17 others.

June 12, 2016 — Orlando, FL.

Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, 29, killed 50 people and injured 53 at Pulse – a popular gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida. This is the worst mass shooting in US history. President Barack Obama described the horrific event as an "act of terror and hate."

I apologize for just now reading this. I have been tied up on family and business matters for most of the month.

I'm from Waco. And while many of the bikers were armed with many types of weapons, the Waco policed killed everyone. I'm not sure a shot was fired by anyone except the Waco police.

As someone who has had their home broken into by the Waco police, then ransacked by the same and gold coins stolen totaling nearly $15,000, had their wife called every filthy name you can imagine, and finally had the crap beat out of them, not to mention locked up for nearly a day in a mental hospital that cost me another $10,000, the Waco police are not high on my list.

I was never charged with any crime. So why did they do it? They received a tip that I might try to kill myself in the shower with an AR-15!

 

[rasmith1959]

My first DIY test purchase was 36mg/ml- 230ml bottle, 1- 230 ml bottle each of PG and VG, and about four flavors from MBV. Quickly found out I needed to try some different flavors than what I got, and down the rabbit hole I went. Just dug out my notebook, it was March 2014 when I cut the strings to pre-made e-liquid.

We must have bought the same starter kit from MBV. I started vaping using those Blu cigalikes and was quite satisfied with them for a little over a year. It was after Lorrilard bought them out that things started going downhill and I started having issues with the cartomizers, batteries, and the charging pack. Started getting dry cartos, some didn't work, some would lose their flavor rather quickly but would still vape and so on.

Then I bought a eGo battery and some Kanger T3's in May 2013 and started doing DIY by August. I do on occasion buy some premade liquid, but not very often. It's more of a special occasion when I purchase premade liquid as I'm quite happy with the stuff I make myself.


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[DPLongo22]

I apologize for just now reading this. I have been tied up on family and business matters for most of the month.

I'm from Waco. And while many of the bikers were armed with many types of weapons, the Waco policed killed everyone. I'm not sure a shot was fired by anyone except the Waco police.

As someone who has had their home broken into by the Waco police, then ransacked by the same and gold coins stolen totaling nearly $15,000, had their wife called every filthy name you can imagine, and finally had the crap beat out of them, not to mention locked up for nearly a day in a mental hospital that cost me another $10,000, the Waco police are not high on my list.

I was never charged with any crime. So why did they do it? They received a tip that I might try to kill myself in the shower with an AR-15!

That story angers me to no end, JUMA.

And, not for nothing, what business of the police's is it even if that tip were true? Stop "protecting" us - please...

Sorry for what you went through. Nannyism rules. :-(

 

[LoriP1702]

I apologize for just now reading this. I have been tied up on family and business matters for most of the month.

I'm from Waco. And while many of the bikers were armed with many types of weapons, the Waco policed killed everyone. I'm not sure a shot was fired by anyone except the Waco police.

As someone who has had their home broken into by the Waco police, then ransacked by the same and gold coins stolen totaling nearly $15,000, had their wife called every filthy name you can imagine, and finally had the crap beat out of them, not to mention locked up for nearly a day in a mental hospital that cost me another $10,000, the Waco police are not high on my list.

I was never charged with any crime. So why did they do it? They received a tip that I might try to kill myself in the shower with an AR-15!

I'm so sorry you went through all that.
I just can find no words to explain how wrong that was.
I agree with DP, stop protecting us!!

 

[classwife]

I apologize for just now reading this. I have been tied up on family and business matters for most of the month.

I'm from Waco. And while many of the bikers were armed with many types of weapons, the Waco policed killed everyone. I'm not sure a shot was fired by anyone except the Waco police.

As someone who has had their home broken into by the Waco police, then ransacked by the same and gold coins stolen totaling nearly $15,000, had their wife called every filthy name you can imagine, and finally had the crap beat out of them, not to mention locked up for nearly a day in a mental hospital that cost me another $10,000, the Waco police are not high on my list.

I was never charged with any crime. So why did they do it? They received a tip that I might try to kill myself in the shower with an AR-15!

So totally wrong !

 

[JUMA55]

So totally wrong !

Thanks, guys. The whole thing was a disaster. At one point, there were at least five police cars, two ambulances and a fire truck at my house for hours! Then for the next 10 hours or so there were no less than four police and/or sheriff officers "guarding" me in the hospital. They took all sorts of blood and urine samples, and found zip. Then they sent several nurses and social workers to see where I tried to cut myself. My only wound was on my left knee where I banged it a couple of nights before on the cedar chest at the end of the bed.

The mayor at the time is an old friend. He was incensed by the waste of tax dollars on me. He was right. So he setup a meeting between the police chief, the city manager, himself and me. The long and short of it was from the the police chief that I am an upper middle-class white guy, an officer in a national bank, have a concealed carry permit, etc. Therefore I needed "protection." If I'd been a poor black guy, they would have been fine with me blowing my brains out. Lovely.

 

[DPLongo22]

Thanks, guys. The whole thing was a disaster. At one point, there were at least five police cars, two ambulances and a fire truck at my house for hours! Then for the next 10 hours or so there were no less than four police and/or sheriff officers "guarding" me in the hospital. They took all sorts of blood and urine samples, and found zip. Then they sent several nurses and social workers to see where I tried to cut myself. My only wound was on my left knee where I banged it a couple of nights before on the cedar chest at the end of the bed.

The mayor at the time is an old friend. He was incensed by the waste of tax dollars on me. He was right. So he setup a meeting between the police chief, the city manager, himself and me. The long and short of it was from the the police chief that I am an upper middle-class white guy, an officer in a national bank, have a concealed carry permit, etc. Therefore I needed "protection." If I'd been a poor black guy, they would have been fine with me blowing my brains out. Lovely.

No offense, JUMA, and you KNOW that I like you, but they SHOULD have been fine with you doing it, regardless of your race, occupation or anything else.

Well, "fine" being very loosely defined for this purpose. "Freedom" is an all-encompassing word, the last time I checked.

 

[Pinggolfer]

And 10 million vapers equals one HECK of a black market.

Capitalist Pig.

 

[Bamrz]

I started buying 100mg/ml by the liter back in early 2014 and haven't looked back.

I have several liters of nic in the freezer, a few gennies, and now only buy mods that take external batteries. I also have only bought tanks that have RBA's available.

Although I am personally set for many years to come, I worry about those that might not stop smoking and switch due to the FDA carp.

 

[DPLongo22]

Capitalist Pig.

Aye yam.

Although I am personally set for many years to come, I worry about those that might not stop smoking and switch due to the FDA carp.

Exactly, Bamrz (well said). It's a borderline-criminal assault on all of humanity. Shameful, criminal, and downright despicable.

 

[WillyZee]

I apologize for just now reading this. I have been tied up on family and business matters for most of the month.

I'm from Waco. And while many of the bikers were armed with many types of weapons, the Waco policed killed everyone. I'm not sure a shot was fired by anyone except the Waco police.

As someone who has had their home broken into by the Waco police, then ransacked by the same and gold coins stolen totaling nearly $15,000, had their wife called every filthy name you can imagine, and finally had the crap beat out of them, not to mention locked up for nearly a day in a mental hospital that cost me another $10,000, the Waco police are not high on my list.

I was never charged with any crime. So why did they do it? They received a tip that I might try to kill myself in the shower with an AR-15!

Sorry about that, my friend.


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[BreSha6869]

Random observation of the day....

I have been vaping for about 8 months and using Provaris for 7. When I started vaping, Provaris were bashed constantly here and on other forums... Overpriced, underpowered, no TC, etc.,... basically obsolete technology at astronomical prices.

Fast forward to the present and the bashing seems to be very infrequent. In fact, a large portion of ECFers posting in the deeming/stockpiling threads mention how they are putting away Provaris.

Thought this was interesting. Must be those damned $29.95 2.5 blems!

 

[WillyZee]

Random observation of the day....

I have been vaping for about 8 months and using Provaris for 7. When I started vaping, Provaris were bashed constantly here and on other forums... Overpriced, underpowered, no TC, etc.,... basically obsolete technology at astronomical prices.

Fast forward to the present and the bashing seems to be very infrequent. In fact, a large portion of ECFers posting in the deeming/stockpiling threads mention how they are putting away Provaris.

Thought this was interesting. Must be those damned $29.95 2.5 blems!

you missed the hardcore Provi bashing ... things had already somewhat toned down by the time you started vaping

back when the Vamo and every other new mod was a ProVari Killer

 

[BreSha6869]

you missed the hardcore Provi bashing ... things had already somewhat toned down by the time you started vaping

back when the Vamo and every other new mod was a ProVari Killer

Yeah. Before my time. I am a newbie compared to many of youse guys.

 

[WillyZee]

Yeah. Before my time. I am a newbie compared to many of youse guys.

funny thing is ... we're still waiting for that ProVari Killer

 

[LoriP1702]

Random observation of the day....

I have been vaping for about 8 months and using Provaris for 7. When I started vaping, Provaris were bashed constantly here and on other forums... Overpriced, underpowered, no TC, etc.,... basically obsolete technology at astronomical prices.

Fast forward to the present and the bashing seems to be very infrequent. In fact, a large portion of ECFers posting in the deeming/stockpiling threads mention how they are putting away Provaris.

Thought this was interesting. Must be those damned $29.95 2.5 blems!

Yup, what Willy said. It was brutal. It's what I bought when I moved on from ego type batteries, and never looked back. I don't do sub ohm, so I have more power available than I'll use.
But, yeah...the bashing used to be terrible.
Better pricing, yeah...big factor I would imagine.
Thing was back then, ProVari was the only one, that I remember, that offered any kind of warranty other than DOA.
Buying a ProVari was just a no brainer for me, even though it was more expensive back then. (March 2013)

you missed the hardcore Provi bashing ... things had already somewhat toned down by the time you started vaping

back when the Vamo and every other new mod was a ProVari Killer

Someone on the Stocking Up for Deeming Regs mentioned something about wanting an all electrical device to use at home.
I remember someone posted a pic of one that only plugged in with USB, say like to your computer, was that you, or am I mistaken. If so, do you remember what that was? That was way back, and I kind of remember the device, but not sure.

 

[LoriP1702]

funny thing is ... we're still waiting for that ProVari Killer

I was going to say NO
...but then I remembered FDA.