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ENAUD

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Whats this PALM or SOY derived? I normally buy premixed base (pg/vg/nic) so I havent bought bulk in quite a while...which is better? Any difference in taste?
They should be the same, the product is refined to the point where there should be no detectable difference.
 

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Yes, we need to care for our vets. Wish everyone would agree on that, roll up their sleeves and get it done. When did working across the aisle become dirty words? (rhetorical question)

My FIL was captured on D-Day (82nd Airborne) and my father was wounded in Korea. Somehow, my brothers survived the AF and Army. However, an adopted member of the family is dealing with damage from 2 tours in Iraq, both physical and mental. He takes 22 pills in the AM, 6 in the afternoon and 19 at night and is still in constant pain, surgery has been delayed 1-2 years longer than us civies would consider reasonable and he's on the list for a therapy dog which is out 10-12 months. It hurts to see all he's going through and pisses me off what he's had to do to get much needed treatment.

Oh man! that's
Sad sad situation. I SCREAM to the skies regularly on this...Im not going to dis the rights recently won by the LBGT and other minorities..but for cryin out loud, the USA is the worst for caring to the adult disabled!, Vet and Non Vet alike. You probably saw the news last week about the girl abused by TSA leaving St Judes?
The VA overhaul might've helped some?...what is Some??
and the non vet? oh man...we've hit a nerve. So to the V.A....
 

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As a vet I blame the greedy bought and paid for politicians and nobody else. The failure of the VA is not on us, the public, but the unwashed liars that represent us. Just MHO of course.


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As a vet I blame the greedy bought and paid for politicians and nobody else. The failure of the VA is not on us, the public, but the unwashed liars that represent us. Just MHO of course.


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Agreed.

Fmr. Senator Coburn does too.

 

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Vets held up their end of the deal. We, as a society, have not. Shameful IMHO.
Hear, hear, we hear! According to the CDC, the US (example of regular population survey);
there's about 53million+ living with disabilities.
Disability Statistics.
This may get bumped (off topic for prochat?) but I see posts like WhiteHighlights and my ire gets fired.
With the outrageous grievances revealed in VA care lately, its had some public awareness...but for the rest? the Kids, the non VA Adults and Seniors?...ARGH!
As vapers, and as ProVari fans..I'm naturally presuming members here have a conscious direction toward wellness and toward quality. Such dichotomy to see the above post by WhiteHighlights.
My point=simply you dont necessarily have to lay your life down for your country to be deserving of decent health care, free from untreated disability.
Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members.
Pearl Buck, My Several Worlds: A Personal Record (1954)
A sentiment and value reiterated throughout the centuries.

Back to the other topic on page...arent you fearful of Palm & Soy? Speaking of health..hasnt Palm been nasty?
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It's just really sad what all goes on in this country. Just shameful and sad.

As for palm or soy...you don't want to really research either.
It's my understanding that there is no ethically harvested palm, and I don't even want to research soy. :facepalm:
I went with VG from Wizard Labs. I don't know if it's better, but they did have a note regarding unsafe ingredients in VG, so I'm hoping they've researched what is safer/safest.
Just my 2c to add.
 

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Power corrupts. And we've granted it way to easily, of late.

Only we can change that, IF we've the stomach and will. But do to that will take guts & courage. Breaking from the norm does not come naturally to humans. We are territorial creatures, comfortable in the arms of familiarity.



I had supper Saturday night with one of the lawyers who tried to get me out of the nut ward. For years we smoked and collected pipes together. And while he quit several years ago--and added about 50+ pounds--he's sympathetic to my vaping and the hobby resulting from.

We got to arguing about Britexit. I was for and he was against. One of my arguments was the TPD, and I told him crap like that was enough to make me run like hell from Brussels. The discussion then went into the dooming regs. His conclusion was, "The government is always right." "F--- that." was my response. "The government--any government--is rarely right, and the FDA is the worst of them all." Vioxx, fen-peen, Thalidomide, etc.

In the end his response was, "I don't vape, so why should I care?" I finally reminded him of the fact that when he quit smoking a decade or so ago, he went into such a rage that one night he smash up the chairs to his grandmother's dining room furniture. Whereas had their been vaping he might still be sitting at the dining table.

Depressing!
 

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I had supper Saturday night with one of the lawyers who tried to get me out of the nut ward. For years we smoked and collected pipes together. And while he quit several years ago--and added about 50+ pounds--he's sympathetic to my vaping and the hobby resulting from.

We got to arguing about Britexit. I was for and he was against. One of my arguments was the TPD, and I told him crap like that was enough to make me run like hell from Brussels. The discussion then went into the dooming regs. His conclusion was, "The government is always right." "F--- that." was my response. "The government--any government--is rarely right, and the FDA is the worst of them all." Vioxx, fen-peen, Thalidomide, etc.

In the end his response was, "I don't vape, so why should I care?" I finally reminded him of the fact that when he quit smoking a decade or so ago, he went into such a rage that one night he smash up the chairs to his grandmother's dining room furniture. Whereas had their been vaping he might still be sitting at the dining table.

Depressing!

Does he have children, or grandchildren?
 

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Happy Independence Day

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Katdarling

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Welp, it doesn't look like Sir Brow is around just yet, but when you DO get your buttocks in here.....

I'd like to wish you not only a splendid and happy Independence Day, but also a marvelous celebration with your honey and partner of 36 years. WOW. Just WOOOOOOOOOW!



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AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Happy Happy 5 year Vape-a-Versary, dear one!

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Congrats Sir 'Brow of Lube! Well done and we're all VERY proud of you!!
 

DPLongo22

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Welp, it doesn't look like Sir Brow is around just yet, but when you DO get your buttocks in here.....

I'd like to wish you not only a splendid and happy Independence Day, but also a marvelous celebration with your honey and partner of 36 years. WOW. Just WOOOOOOOOOW!



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AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Happy Happy 5 year Vape-a-Versary, dear one!

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Congrats Sir 'Brow of Lube! Well done and we're all VERY proud of you!!

CAN ROD COME OUT AND PLAY?!?!

We kid, Sir Brow, and know that you're busy, but YOU should know that WE (the collective) are thinking about you.

Happy-Happy, Rod, Charlie & Rod. :toast::party::vapor::banana::)
 
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