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rbrylawski

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Not stepping into this beehive...

But "AR" does NOT mean "Assault Rifle".

A = Armalite. R = Rifle.

Wikipedia is a publicly edited website, meaning anyone can make edits to the pages. Not saying someone maliciously edited the info there, but someone who is misinformed, and believes what they have been told, may have done so.

It's sorta like how they classify dirt bikes.
Sorry but it's the only comparison I can think of.

A Honda 250cc is a Honda brand dirt bike, and the 250cc refers to its engine size.

Yamaha makes a 250cc, so does Kawasaki, Suzuki, etc...

To say that "AR" means "assault rifle", is to say that 250cc is specific to a certain brand dirt bike.

Now, are these AR-15's heavily favored by militant forces, for combat purposes? Sure. But a device doesn't become something it's not, just because it was used in a certain way.

Just like our vape gear is NOT a tobacco product, just because we use it to replace smoking.

End rant. My two cents.
No horse in this race, except knowledge.
Feel free to correct my post.

P.S. SUPER confused as to how this topic was started...

Not sure why Ping brought this up. But his point, if I'm reading his post correctly was he has a friend who is against assault rifles and used AR-15 as an example. I'm with his friend, but that's anutter subject. Ping was I think pointing out that his friend is misinformed and that AR-15 doesn't stand for assault rifle. To me, it's like asking for a kleenex and being handed another brands tissue. For most people, myself included, AR-15 is synonymous with assault rifle, regardless of the brand or what it was originally designed for.
 

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Not sure what your point is Ping? From Wiki, it's clear AR-15 is a term for assault rifle, regardless of which assault rifle. To me and I suspect most people, any weapon that is used to kill people on the street, a club a movie theatre or any public place qualifies as an assault weapon.

Here's Wikipedia's definition of AR-15

AR-15
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
AR-15 refers to any of several rifles:

These include:
  • Armalite AR-15, a select fire military assault rifle manufactured by Armalite,and predecessor of the M16
  • Colt AR-15, sold by Colt Firearms, a line of semiautomatic versions of the military M16 service rifle starting with the SP-1 Sporter model
  • AR-15 variants

Assault rifles used in the military can be a single shot with each trigger pull or a automatic. Go to any gun shop and try and buy a automatic assault rifle. Let me know if you find one. You'll have a easier time finding a 200 watt Provari.
 

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I had a conversation with a guy who's anti guns and he was clear about his dislike of the AR-15, which he believed the AR meant assault rifle. I have to believe the media continually fills the public with false information. AR is not and never has been an assault weapon. ArmaLite rifle made in the 1950's. The FDA dishing out false information about our beloved Provari's, tanks and ejuice. Please leave us alone.

Not sure what your point is Ping? From Wiki, it's clear AR-15 is a term for assault rifle, regardless of which assault rifle. To me and I suspect most people, any weapon that is used to kill people on the street, a club a movie theatre or any public place qualifies as an assault weapon.

Here's Wikipedia's definition of AR-15

AR-15
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
AR-15 refers to any of several rifles:

These include:
  • Armalite AR-15, a select fire military assault rifle manufactured by Armalite,and predecessor of the M16
  • Colt AR-15, sold by Colt Firearms, a line of semiautomatic versions of the military M16 service rifle starting with the SP-1 Sporter model
  • AR-15 variants

Not stepping into this beehive...

But "AR" does NOT mean "Assault Rifle".

A = Armalite. R = Rifle.

Wikipedia is a publicly edited website, meaning anyone can make edits to the pages. Not saying someone maliciously edited the info there, but someone who is misinformed, and believes what they have been told, may have done so.

It's sorta like how they classify dirt bikes.
Sorry but it's the only comparison I can think of.

A Honda 250cc is a Honda brand dirt bike, and the 250cc refers to its engine size.

Yamaha makes a 250cc, so does Kawasaki, Suzuki, etc...

To say that "AR" means "assault rifle", is to say that 250cc is specific to a certain brand dirt bike.

Now, are these AR-15's heavily favored by militant forces, for combat purposes? Sure. But a device doesn't become something it's not, just because it was used in a certain way.

Just like our vape gear is NOT a tobacco product, just because we use it to replace smoking.

End rant. My two cents.
No horse in this race, except knowledge.
Feel free to correct my post.

P.S. SUPER confused as to how this topic was started...

Maybe this helps:
The Truth About Assault Weapons

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I had a conversation with a guy who's anti guns and he was clear about his dislike of the AR-15, which he believed the AR meant assault rifle. I have to believe the media continually fills the public with false information. AR is not and never has been an assault weapon. ArmaLite rifle made in the 1950's. The FDA dishing out false information about our beloved Provari's, tanks and ejuice. Please leave us alone.
My brother wanted to buy a rifle a couple of years ago. He didn't want a 30-30 because he thinks he's too old to handle the power of a hunting rifle. He wanted something lighter with less kick. He finally decided on an AR-15 because it's a nice light rifle, good for old people.

Unfortunately for him, that's right when the SHTF. All of a sudden the AR-15 was an assault rifle and taboo. Therefore, of course, expensive and hard to get.

He did get one, eventually.

The AR-15 is a low powered rifle. Why aren't people more upset about the more dangerous rifles, hunting rifles? Leave the old folks alone.
 

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Assault rifles used in the military can be a single shot with each trigger pull or a automatic. Go to any gun shop and try and buy a automatic assault rifle. Let me know if you find one. You'll have a easier time finding a 200 watt Provari.

OK......Assault Rifle or Assault Weapon. Single shot or automatic. Either are effective killers. IMHO, something needs to be done to make them less easy to acquire. But then the NRA who also owns congress, won't hear of it.
 

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OK......Assault Rifle or Assault Weapon. Single shot or automatic. Either are effective killers. IMHO, something needs to be done to make them less easy to acquire. But then the NRA who also owns congress, won't hear of it.
That's the point you can't buy a automatic rifle. Lot's or AR 15 are 22 caliber. A truck driving through crowd's of people is a dangerous weapon. I would rather get terrorists off the streets, but that would be politically incorrect.

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That's the point you can't buy a automatic rifle. Lot's or AR 15 are 22 caliber. A truck driving through crowd's of people is a dangerous weapon. I would rather get terrorists off the streets, but that would be politically incorrect.

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I still don't understand your point. To me, it's semantic. But I think you lose much credibility when you say something like your last comment above. If you think your Donald is going to do anything that will really reduce the number of "terrorists" on the street, you're drinking cool-aid laced with hyperbole.
 

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OK......Assault Rifle or Assault Weapon. Single shot or automatic. Either are effective killers. IMHO, something needs to be done to make them less easy to acquire. But then the NRA who also owns congress, won't hear of it.
Law abiding citizens who desire the ability to defend themselves won't hear of it. The world is a dangerous place, and if the SHTF and the grid goes down because some lunatic in North Korea decides to set off an EMP, society and life as we know it suddenly ceases to exist. I wish to have the means to defend myself at my disposal because it is my God given right to do so.
 

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When ever people start talking about some thing and have not done there research It is the same thing people are doing to our life saving Ecigs.

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Law abiding citizens who desire the ability to defend themselves won't hear of it. The world is a dangerous place, and if the SHTF and the grid goes down because some lunatic in North Korea decides to set off an EMP, society and life as we know it suddenly ceases to exist. I wish to have the means to defend myself at my disposal because it is my God given right to do so.

I am not anti gun. I support law abiding citizens rights to protect themselves and those they hold dear. I have significant issues with how utterly easy it is for people who should be vetted to a higher degree can walk into a gun store and buy a gun. What irks me is the refusal to even put common sense measures in place to effect tighter controls, making it harder for someone who shouldn't be able to own a gun get one.
 

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Self-defense and hunting for food are not the only reason for our right to bear arms.

We started via revolution. The founding fathers believed that we will continue to need protection for our government not to become tyrannical. They believed in the threat of revolution to keep government under control.

What's the first thing a tyrannical government does before they show their true colors? Register all arms so they know what doors to break down.


I'm old enough to still be a true believer in the constitution.
 

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I still don't understand your point. To me, it's semantic. But I think you lose much credibility when you say something like your last comment above. If you think your Donald is going to do anything that will really reduce the number of "terrorists" on the street, you're drinking cool-aid laced with hyperbole.
I'll take my chances with Donald then have Hillary open the door and allow Islamic terrorists free reign to slaughter innocent people. I lost credibility? Would you fight and die for our country? I would.

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Hmm -- just like we are putting in harder controls so the chilren can't get their hands on smokes and vapes?

Hmm -- didn't work for leaf products, so lets do it for ENDS?o_O

Seems to me threats of regulation and requirements end up with a lot of panic & boosted sales, and even more under the table and shady markets. It always happens with all "adult only" goods.

It's sure happened with the firearms industry these past few years and vape sales statistics must be at an all time high, and not only due to expansion of the number of vapors.:lol:
 

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I'll take my chances with Donald then have Hillary open the door and allow Islamic terrorists free reign to slaughter innocent people. I lost credibility? Would you fight and die for our country? I would.

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Of course I'd fight and die for my country. Your comment that Hillary will open the door to Islamic terrorists simply proves you drank the cool-aid. And yes, to ME, you've lost all credibility.

I seem to be the only bleeding heart liberal in this thread. I'm in favor of gun control. I'm frightened to my very core at the damage Trump will inflict on this country.

With that, I clearly don't fit here at this time. So, I bid you all a great next couple months. The people will speak and the election will be over in November. For that I'm very grateful.

Best to you all.......
 
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