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mgrimes

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Since many people talked about how hard-hitting the Prodigy can be, I didn't use my regular 24 mg nic liquid but went with 11 mg that I have not used for few months. Thinking: "just in case."

I didn't drop my nic count at all - still vaping 18 and 24 mg since day 1 of prodigy use... Though I must say, depending on the flavor (e.g. Hilton 24mg or PS Tobacco 24mg), it's the closest to an analog I've had yet.

It's true what they say though... once you go 5 volts you never go back. I find it extremely painful to use my 901 or 801 proper (@ 3.7v) now as while vapor is decreased, throat hit feels non-existent to me at 3.7v now. It's like sucking air through a McDonald's straw - zero satisfaction.

My favorite Prodigy configuration is 801 - surprising as I thought it would be my 901, but I can't take a very long draw on a 901 before i suck up the juice and get metallic burnt atty bridge smell. Either that or my other suspicion -- that the round brown Ruyan 901 carts don't work so hot on the angled bridge of a true 901 (compared to the RN's shallow bridge) - based on the heat signature on the fiberfill (concave yet still juicy) there may be some contact and that might be causing the smell (the moment the fibers dry against the bridge) -- dunno just spit-ballin' - but I've been considerably less impressed with the 901 on the prodigy compared to the 801.

It is a bummer though because I really hate the 801's paper thin tapered tips (given i came from cigarette, not pipe smoking) compared to those wonderful lil brown round tips. Nor do I care for the 801's slow draw compared to the 901. But 801 consistently puts out massive vapor and killer throat hit at 5 volts with no burnt atty taste other than the usual hints that your juice is running dry.

Who knows -- anyhow this is my one-week follow-up (+ a couple days)... I plan to do a video review follow-up at 1 month and will expand on the details then.
 
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tescela

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Quick change to 510 adapter and inserting my used 510 atty and cart with the straw modification. This time I didn't even bother with 11 mg nic, just used my standard 24 mg. Thinking all these old-timers describing huge throat hits from 801/901 just forgot what a throat hit from analog really feels like.

I take a nice vape hoping that I'll at least feel something close to what 510 gives out.

After I exhaled and sticked my eyeballs back into their sockets I realized that my juice supply just doubled. I can easily cut my 24 mg liquid to 12 mg. :D

I've mentioned this before, but if you have any interest at all in cutting your eLiquid strength over time, the moment you plan to start using a 5V PV is a great opportunity to drop the strength. I recommend dropping before you take the first draw.

So far, I've dropped from 24mg on a traditional DSE901 all the way down to 10mg (cut from a higher strength) with my 5V PV. Puresmoker's 5V PVs deliver such consistent vapes (and improved flavor) that they are ideal devices for progressively lowering nicotine intake by cutting eLiquid.

(Let's face it: Puresmoker's 5V PVs are ideal for just about everything, although I will be thrilled if the Prodigy V2 has a smaller form factor.)
 

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She has arrived!

I got in the house and victoriously waved the little box at my spouse, and he grinned at my excitement.

My first impressions of the Prodigy can be best stated by comparing it to another popular big battery PV.
My Janty Stick (801 manual, V1) died after three weeks of use alongside my trusty 510. To Janty's credit, I had a JS-V2 in my mailbox two business days after reporting the death. I had been using the JS-V2 all day with a fresh battery and a well-broken-in BE112 atty, and had been less than thrilled with its performance. The draw was very hard despite frequent blow-outs, vapor production was so-so, and I was concluding that maybe the atty was gunked up.

I threw some fully charged batteries in the Prodigy, gently assembled it with the very same questionable BE112 atomizer with a fully loaded cartridge of the same juice (equal parts French Pipe, peach, and almond, 24 mg), said a short prayer, and let her rip.

And she bloody well mercied the hapless Janty Stick. Put it to shame. Sent it running with its tail between its legs.

The PD took that 801 atty and made large clouds of thick, rich, creamy vapor. I had to drastically shorten my draw: one or two seconds, and my throat and lungs were telling me to stop. The flavor was better than on the Janty Stick, and by far better than on the 510. The draw was light and lovely. Spouse and I played with it for a while, carts vs. dripping, 801 vs. 510, and finally had to stop for dinner and rapidly impending nicotine toxicity.

I will check back in later with a more complete review and updated impressions. I am sticking with the PD with the 801 atty and am taking her out to work for the first time today.

I couldn't be happier. I am already planning on selling off, trading, and giving away my other assorted PV parts. There is no better PV than the Puresmoker Prodigy. I am a professed compulsive toy buyer, but I have no urge to look for anything else, ever. Five volts is *IT*.

I have arrived.

Thank you Puresmoker.
 
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Sar

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I didn't drop my nic count at all - still vaping 18 and 24 mg since day 1 of prodigy use... Though I must say, depending on the flavor (e.g. Hilton 24mg or PS Tobacco 24mg), it's the closest to an analog I've had yet.

It's true what they say though... once you go 5 volts you never go back. I find it extremely painful to use my 901 or 801 proper (@ 3.7v) now as while vapor is decreased, throat hit feels non-existent to me at 3.7v now. It's like sucking air through a McDonald's straw - zero satisfaction.

My favorite Prodigy configuration is 801 - surprising as I thought it would be my 901, but I can't take a very long draw on a 901 before i suck up the juice and get metallic burnt atty bridge smell. Either that or my other suspicion -- that the round brown Ruyan 901 carts don't work so hot on the angled bridge of a true 901 (compared to the RN's shallow bridge) - based on the heat signature on the fiberfill (concave yet still juicy) there may be some contact and that might be causing the smell (the moment the fibers dry against the bridge) -- dunno just spit-ballin' - but I've been considerably less impressed with the 901 on the prodigy compared to the 801.

It is a bummer though because I really hate the 801's paper thin tapered tips (given i came from cigarette, not pipe smoking) compared to those wonderful lil brown round tips. Nor do I care for the 801's slow draw compared to the 901. But 801 consistently puts out massive vapor and killer throat hit at 5 volts with no burnt atty taste other than the usual hints that your juice is running dry.

Who knows -- anyhow this is my one-week follow-up (+ a couple days)... I plan to do a video review follow-up at 1 month and will expand on the details then.


I am planning to get the 801 adapter for Prodigy just to give it a shot. I still have several 801 attys that have never been used. But I hate the limp rubbery soft tips with passion too!

The thing with 510 atty is that I am surprised that I am topping off with Prodigy MUCH less than I used to with the standard 510 manual batteries. With those I had to top off almost after every few vapes to maintain the throat hit at the same level. Not so with Prodigy! The Prodigy sucks the cart dry while still giving the same level of vape and throat hit. To me, that is what I LOVE about Prodigy.

I haven't tried 3.7 volts yet after Prodigy. I'll be postponing that experience as much as I can. But I know I'll have to go to 3.7 v at least for a brief period of time when I go to the airpot. The Prodigy does look little bit like a weapon of mass destruction. :)
 

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Okay, I did it. My orgasmic prodigy virginity is now gone forever. :cool:

My first impressions:

Really like the fact that the Prodigy is solid enough to stand vertically on my desk.

No problems putting in the batteries -- but I did read a lot on these forums about how etc so I had some advantage there.

The 901 adapter was already attached, and since 901 atty was included in the package that was the first one I tried. Discovered there was no wool in the cartridge, so swapped it with one of the spare ones I had on hand.

Since many people talked about how hard-hitting the Prodigy can be, I didn't use my regular 24 mg nic liquid but went with 11 mg that I have not used for few months. Thinking: "just in case."

Love how the button to start the Prodigy feels like and that you need to actually push it instead of just touching it. Perfect.

Vapor from 901 using 11 mg was good, but vapor is not that important to me. It is the throat hit I am after much more. With 11 mg, the 901 didn't give me throat hit I could feel. It probably had it, but I am so used to vaping 510 and 24 mg liquid that anything less would be probably difficult to notice.

But I did notice the vapor texture! This is unlike anything else I vaped. While the standard PV can give me enough vapor, some can even give huge quantity of it, the vapor that Prodigy produces has weight and volume. To me, standard PV's vapor was more like a fog or something that could come from a humidifier. The first thought I had when I blew out vapor from Prodigy was -- milk. It was silky smooth and tangible. Great stuff.

Next, I used 24 mg nic. Better throat hit this time, but nothing that I couldn't get from my manual 510 PV. The silky vapor was still there however. And that I was never able to get from 510 PV. For that alone I can imagine using 901 when I feel like slowing down and vaping something mellow. So, no real surprise with the 901. I like it, but it will not be my first choice for vaping. But if I never tried 510 I'd be all over it.

Quick change to 510 adapter and inserting my used 510 atty and cart with the straw modification. This time I didn't even bother with 11 mg nic, just used my standard 24 mg. Thinking all these old-timers describing huge throat hits from 801/901 just forgot what a throat hit from analog really feels like.

I take a nice vape hoping that I'll at least feel something close to what 510 gives out.

After I exhaled and sticked my eyeballs back into their sockets I realized that my juice supply just doubled. I can easily cut my 24 mg liquid to 12 mg. :D

I was expecting the Prodigy to guzzle the juice fast, but surprisingly it didnt. Or maybe it just felt like forever when vaping my 24 mg nic liquid. But when I finally needed to refil I used my 11 mg liquid. Still getting nice throat hit. So I am thinking that I will be able to switch to 12 - 18 mg nic without a problem. I don't think the throat hit was harsh with 24 mg. It was strong, but the warmth of the vapor made it smooth. Even with the throat hit of 510, the silky vape still tastes like milk. It is extremely nice and does feel like smoking a smooth fine cigarette.

Another surprise: the atty didn't get as hot as with the normal manual battery! Maybe the reason is that I am taking much shorter drags with Prodigy. On the other hand, I am not letting it cool down, so am not sure.

There is one other thing that makes a huge difference. With all the other PVs I have I never know what will the next vape taste/feel like. No matter how consistently I vape, sometimes I get a good vape, sometimes weak. Sometimes there is a throat hit, sometimes not. Manual 510 has the most consistent performance, but I would still take a primer puff even with that just to make sure the thing is working. (Especially with that terrible passthrough that is using a battery!) But with Prodigy, my first hour was completely predictable vape after vape. When I press the button, I know exactly what I'll get. Yes, I am calling Prodigy boring. And it is a good thing! Very good thing! :D

Congratulations Puresmoker!


It is now few days later so I'd like to update my initial impressions.

From the time I installed the 510 adapter I've been using it exclusively. I am still using the same 510 atty and the only maintenance I've done is blowing out liquid from the atty once.

The one thing I didn't write about before was the flavor/taste of the liquid. I am probably the only person with this experience, but to me the liquid tastes the same with Prodigy as without. The vapor itself is different and silky smooth, but I am not able to notice any difference in the taste of the flavor. The awful watermelon ejuice I have tastes as bad with Prodigy as it does with normal batteries.

The throat hit is as good as it was initially, but I am still using 24 mg nic liquid. Since I take shorter two-second draws with Prodigy, 24 mg seems to work the best for me. Initially I thought that I'd switch to lower nic level, but right now I do that only in the evening.

The batteries last me about six hours. I have ordered few non-rechargeable protected 1400 mAh of the same brand as what came with the Prodigy to see if they last longer. Since they are advertised as having 10-year shelf life they'd make a good backup if they work.

The smooth vapor and long battery life I get with Prodigy would make being without it extremely difficult. But the best parts of the Prodigy are the consistency, where every draw is exactly what you expect; and the power of 5 volts that allows me to take much shorter draws without sacrificing the throat hit. My 510 atomizer used to get super hot, but with the short draws from Prodigy the atty can get warm, but so far it didn't get hot. I suspect that this will make the atty last longer.

My wish for Prodigy improvement or add-on:

Steve/Puresmoker should design a lid/cover that could be easily attached to the adapter side of the Prodigy protecting the attomizer. Since the adapters seem to have consistent outside dimensions, it should be relatively easy to fabricate a light-weight tube that a user could easily snap in place covering the atomizer and part of the adapter. The tube would be smooth and open on one end (the end that snaps on the Prodigy). There would need to be a ridge inside of the tube about 0.5" from the tube's opening that would act as a stopper when it meets the adapter and thus prevents the user from pushing the tube too far on the Prodigy.

Having this type of snap on/snap off cover would make the Prodigy self-contained and much more portable, while keeping the atomizer safely attached and ready for vaping. The concept is basically similar to the old-style hard plastic toothbrush case/tube that consists of two parts: part A that holds the body of the toothbrush and part B that snaps on part A and covers the head of the toothbrush. In Prodigy's case, the part A is the Prodigy itself and part B is the tube/cover that snaps on to Prodigy and covers the atomizer.
 
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Sar: I actually found this a couple of days ago at Krogers. The Prodigy fits perfect, doesn't jiggle around, etc. But I hate the color, and the groves. I'm in the process of making a cover for the holder.

ToothbrushHolder.jpg
 

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What a great find!! Unfortunately there is no Kroger where I live and checking the website it doesn't look like you can order online. What was the case for originally? Do you have a pckage from it or something that would show the model number?



Sar: I actually found this a couple of days ago at Krogers. The Prodigy fits perfect, doesn't jiggle around, etc. But I hate the color, and the groves. I'm in the process of making a cover for the holder.

ToothbrushHolder.jpg
 
Okay, that's just an awesome case -- will fit in my purse easily, and prevent being accidentally turned on or the atomizer being hurt in any way, without needing to be disassembled.

I'll be picking one up on my shopping trip tomorrow! (pretty sure Wal-Mart will have one of those...) Thanks for posting that.

~Yira

Yirabeth: There is about 2" free space above the atomizer, so it won't get hurt. What I like about it is the Prodigy fits snug enough to keep it from sliding up and down the case. The bottom part of the Prodigy fits in snug, but not too snug, just perfect actually. Course I've got those little flowers on mine :). It's a nice case!
 

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I can just see me now going through Kroger sticking my prodigy in duplicate lil holders as pictured above lmao... So yes, do tell..Toothbrush holder?

When I was scouting for a high voltage mod...Every one always talked about the throat hit/ flavor etc... And even though all that is very important...My biggest concern was consistent hit every single time...So I agree with you Sar...The prodigy gives you that and the weighty silk like vapor was just a really pleasant surprise...I am now getting ready to order prodigy #2 so that I may alternate hits lol
 
LOL you guys, yes, it's a toothbrush holder. I've looked and looked for one. This one happened to be on an end cap in the pharmacy department of Krogers, the only one I saw.

Seriously, the Prodigy sits in there so nice and snug, yet it's not tight, but tight enough so that it doesn't slide from top to bottom and back. I can actually pull the top off easily and vape without taking the Prodigy out of the bottom holder!

I'm going to cover it with needlework done in plastic canvas and then I'll really be good to go. Oh, and the top of the toothbrush holder stays on nice. No chance of it coming off in my purse.
 
What a great find!! Unfortunately there is no Kroger where I live and checking the website it doesn't look like you can order online. What was the case for originally? Do you have a pckage from it or something that would show the model number?

Sar: I'm sorry, there was no package, if I remember right there was just a little hanger with a tag. I don't have it now. It was for a toothbrush.
 

tescela

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Sar: I actually found this a couple of days ago at Krogers. The Prodigy fits perfect, doesn't jiggle around, etc. But I hate the color, and the groves. I'm in the process of making a cover for the holder.

ToothbrushHolder.jpg

A grooved toothbrush holder...because the Prodigy didn't look enough like an adult toy to begin with. :D
 

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ok, I just joined the site today. I must say all of your posts and reviews are very useful. I've been at it since febuary and truely believe that the prodigy is the only way for me. It's able to keep up with my pack a day nic addiction for sure. I made the mistake of not ordering any spare atomizers, thinking the one that came with it would last a month like my mini's. My atomizer only lasted about a week and a half and I ended up smoking a pack a day for 4 days while waiting. The weezing is the worst part...
Anyway, I ordered the 5 pack 901 atomizers from totally wicked that do not come under warranty. After reading several posts I do believe these are knock off 901 atomizers that get much hotter then the regular 901 atomizers. I burned up an atty in 2 days and i'm now testing my second. I'm taking 5 second hits, 2 to 3 at a time, to keep her nice and cool. I'm really looking to see what the longevity of an atty is going to be with the prodigy to calculate costs for the long run. I'm going to order some true 901 atomizers from bestecig and compare the differences next week. As far as the review for the prodigy goes, i'd give her an 8 out of 10.
The minus of 2 for the fair quality of the actual parts. I'm a machinist so I pay close attention to details. The spring poorely glued, and end cap needing to be knurled. The finished could also be much better.
For me the prodigy is a wonderful piece of equipment and I would recommend it to anyone with an intention of being addicted to something much safer than a pack a day. If anyone has had any of the same issues with the attys, or has any ideas for me please post them. Thanks
 
cdog, for me, and it's just my opinion, but 5 second draws, 2 to 3 at a time would seem a to be pushing the heat generated and not be the best for the atty. I do take 3 second (some times 4 second) draws, but no more than 2 at a time. I keep aware at all times whether or not my atty's getting hot. If it's anything above slightly warm, I let it cool before I vape again. I have a tendency, when I need to drip to drip on a hot atty and I've read this isn't wise so I'm trying to teach myself to put the Prodigy down until it's cooled (not long) and then drip.

JMO

ETA: Tescela..LOL, hadn't thought of that and I'll try not to in the future, ;)
 

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lmao tescela..

I was just about to post some of the same advice as you sharon... Personaly, I'd try knocking it back to at least a 3-4 sec draw.... I then let off the button and continue drawing for another second ( this really seems to help cool my attys down)...If none of this improves your atty life then as Sharon suggested, I'd try dropping down to two back to back vapes, let cool a few..Keep experimenting....And make sure your keeping your atty moist...
If you just really like the longer 5 second draw...I'd invest in an 801 adapter, they stay cooler....
 
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