Provari--200$ is a bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Txaggiesaunt]

I just received my provari mini the other day and I feel like I am vaping for the first time. I cannot believe that I did not purchase this 2 years ago. I feel into the same trap as most people on all these forums complaining that 200 dollars is expensive for this type of pv.

I blame myself for not realizing I was spending 200 dollars a month to smoke and I was worried about spending 200 for total excellence. What a sap I am. Think about it. Everyone on these forums had to at least spend 100 dollars a month smoking. If you were not spending that kind of money then you were never addicted to analogs in the first place.

I was paying online only 3 dollars a pack and it cost me 200 a month, 2400 per year and I was worried about 200. That is ridiculous. I used the kgo and the silver bullet and now I have the Vamo. They do not even come close to being as good as this pv. I read somewhere that the provari is old news. That is like saying a Rolls Royce is old news.

Excellence can never get old. I also read people say that it did not look good relative to other mods. I doubt that very much. This black mini is a pv that you can bring to a black tie affair and no-one would laugh at you. I know people are going to say the darwin and the reo's are just as good or better...Personally, I would never leave my house with a box mod. I think they look ridiculous...lol, I really mean it.

If I ever went on a date with a girl and took out one of those box mods, I do not think there would be a second date...lol! Forget how precise it is and how well made...what really impressed me was the fact that the last vape just before the battery died was just as good as the first vape with the battery fully charged. I find that very impressive.

My advice to any new person who is interested in vaping to buy this pv as soon as possible and save yourself aggravation and money. All you have to do is watch a few videos and you will be fine. Phil Busardo has a great video on the provari. The menu is simple...do not know why people complain about that..seemed pretty simple to me.

This is what I think anyway...the next pv I buy will be another provari and then another until there is something better. I do not think there is a better all around pv than this...if there is show me.

I would love to have one, but not until they offer a wattage setting too. For that price you should have both options

 

[baghandler]

Thanks for so much information donnah! A few follow up questions if you don't mind, or anyone else wants to add. What is the advantage of measuring ohms? Is the idea that even though I may have what says is a single coil 1.8 ohm single coil atomizer on my Protank2, it might not actually be resisting at that level (either constant under, constant over, or ongoing variance in the ohm levels) which leads to poorer vaping performance - which you can therefore correct for by raising or lowering the wattage? Can you vape without putting anything else on it (like a protank mini) besides the battery? I'm still trying to get my head around this because since you can add something like a mini-p, than that would almost seem like "double vaping". I know I must sound confused, partially because I might not be up to speed on my electrical physics.

I think I understand your question (I've bolded it, above), but if I didn't, then forgive me.

The ProVari itself is the battery case (plus the electricals to run it).

You then attach a juice delivery device to the top of the ProVari. The delivery device can be a simple dripping atomizer, or a glassomizer like the Davide or the Protank, or a carto-tank system (which is a cartomizer sitting inside a glass or plastic "tank" that you fill with juice. Note also that the ProVari has 510 threading, so you want to make sure the device you select also has the 510 threading. There are several other options as well, but as a beginner, I'd recommend sticking with one of these as they are all simple to use.

Does that answer your question, or did I completely misunderstand you?

 

[buddywally]

"I looked at provape.com and you tube a little bit but came running back here. What exactly is the provari? You need a special battery too? What do you use it with? Can you use it with a protank? I want the very best set up as long as it will last a long time, if you are telling me this is it I am going to do it. (Was thinking about spending much less for a spinner battery to go with pro tank, is this really far superior?... Any guidance appreciated, I'm excited."

I use Protanks frequently with my Provari, they work well but I've encountered some trouble with the draw (amount of effort needed to pull air through the tank). Many folks consider the original Protank to have too "light" or "airy" of a draw, and many of us used plumber's tape to "tighten" it up. On the Provari, I've found that the protanks (I and II) fit so snugly to the top of the device that the draw is nearly shut off completely. To remedy this, I usually use an air-flow controller when using protanks with my Provari.

If you want something better, and love the protank, you should check out the Tatroe tank. Milled out of SS, the finish is a near dead match for my silver provari , vaping a weird mix of Banana Slurry and Boba's Bounty. The Tatroe tanks is well-made and rugged, the bottom (an extra $12) accepts evod/protank heads and is much more well made than the ones you get with the protank. They have the added benefit of having a machined air flow groove on the base that plays very well with the Provari.

 

[donnah]

Thanks for so much information donnah! A few follow up questions if you don't mind, or anyone else wants to add. What is the advantage of measuring ohms? Is the idea that even though I may have what says is a single coil 1.8 ohm single coil atomizer on my Protank2, it might not actually be resisting at that level (either constant under, constant over, or ongoing variance in the ohm levels) which leads to poorer vaping performance - which you can therefore correct for by raising or lowering the wattage? Can you vape without putting anything else on it (like a protank mini) besides the battery? I'm still trying to get my head around this because since you can add something like a mini-p, than that would almost seem like "double vaping". I know I must sound confused, partially because I might not be up to speed on my electrical physics.

The provari is just the battery part of the device that supplies the power in volts (2.9v up to 6v). You have to have a juice delivery device... something with a coil that is heated by the battery (provari or ego or whatever) that will vaporize your juice when it hits the coil. Your volts combined with the resistance of that coil gives you wattage. I've never used a protank but I use/have used other things like atomizers, cartomizers, cartomizers in tanks, vivi novas, a drunker tank and now kayfuns and drippers.

You may not be ready for an advanced device. Provari owners get a lot of flack for pushing their device on new people who have no idea what variable voltage or atomizer resistance is and how it affects their vape experience. I started with the small, fixed voltage devices like egos and worked my way up and I'm glad I did. You may benefit from getting a couple ego batts and working with them before you jump into the more advanced devices. Please don't take this the wrong way! Visit the Provari subforum... ask some questions there.. lots more great advice to be had there. The provari is a great device but so are many others (not as good as the provari imo but that's just my opinion LOL) some people are ready and some aren't. I wasn't for a long time.. then I was and the price made me balk. when I got mine, I knew what I had. I don't know that I would have/could have appreciated it if I hadn't used other devices first.

Take your time and read. Understand the part of an e-cig.. what voltage is, what resistance/ohms is, what wattage is. Many people like the variable wattage devices that automatically read your coil resistance/ohms and adjust the voltage to give you the wattage you want. kind of like a camera set on "automatic". The Provari will (probably) never be a variable wattage device, it doesn't need to be. Put what you have on it.. start at 2.9volts and work your way up.

Here's a video that may help

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

The Provari is probably the best all around APV on the market. My third arrived last week. I have several other devices that cost more than a Provari, all of which I use differently than the Provari, which is my day in and day out work horse, both home and abroad. If you've been vaping any length of time, and have used the less expensive Chinese APV's, then you know that they do give up the ghost, often when I'm away from home, unfortunately. I've bought and used more than 30 APV's in my time, and reluctantly went to the Provari, because I needed something that would never leave me stranded. I did not want to buy a Provari, because I didn't want to be one of "them." I'm still not one of them, but I will vouch for the quality, durability, accuracy and warranty. They have no rival in those categories, collectively, imho. I've also found ways to "spruce mine up" with Tatroe's, Kir Fanis caps and extensions and have a new brass Cingulum Compleo on the way (Cingulum Compleo Set für ProVari Akkuträger - TrevVapor). So, not only do they perform great, but they look great as well. Look, they're not for everybody, and I wouldn't recommend them to a new vaper on a budget, but there are few devices in VapeWorld that compare, imho. I am not in the Provarinati, but still, it's easy to understand it's rise and dominance. Once you hold a Provari and vape one, you'll realize that superior voltage regulation in the battery (due to their proprietary chip) DOES PROVIDE A BETTER VAPE. As it turns out, a battery is not just a battery. The regulation has everything to do with the quality of the vape. If you haven't tried one, then you may not be aware of this, and I was just as surprised as the next guy when I discovered this. You just have to experience it. My two cents!

 

[donnah]

The Provari is probably the best all around APV on the market. My third arrived last week. I have several other devices that cost more than a Provari, all of which I use differently than the Provari, which is my day in and day out work horse, both home and abroad. If you've been vaping any length of time, and have used the less expensive Chinese APV's, then you know that they do give up the ghost, often when I'm away from home, unfortunately. I've bought and used more than 30 APV's in my time, and reluctantly went to the Provari, because I needed something that would never leave me stranded. I did not want to buy a Provari, because I didn't want to be one of "them." I'm still not one of them, but I will vouch for the quality, durability, accuracy and warranty. They have no rival in those categories, collectively, imho. I've also found ways to "spruce mine up" with Tatroe's, Kir Fanis caps and extensions and have a new brass Cingulum Compleo on the way (Cingulum Compleo Set für ProVari Akkuträger - TrevVapor). So, not only do they perform great, but they look great as well. Look, they're not for everybody, and I wouldn't recommend them to a new vaper on a budget, but there are few devices in VapeWorld that compare, imho. I am not in the Provarinati, but still, it's easy to understand it's rise and dominance. Once you hold a Provari and vape one, you'll realize that superior voltage regulation in the battery (due to their proprietary chip) DOES PROVIDE A BETTER VAPE. As it turns out, a battery is not just a battery. The regulation has everything to do with the quality of the vape. If you haven't tried one, then you may not be aware of this, and I was just as surprised as the next guy when I discovered this. You just have to experience it. My two cents!

LOL .. you may not be one of us but you sure sound like one of us.

 

[VaporDragon]

Provaris are great. I love that it gives you the exact voltage you set. I don't think you need to be a master at vaping to be able to use a provari. It's not anymore complicated than the majority of other vv devices with a ui. If you know how to read and have the capability of understanding how to click a button then you're capable of using a provari. I'm mainly using mechanicals like a nemesis right now but eventually plan on getting a provari to mess around with. And 200$ is expensive compared to the basic vv batteries you can buy or compared to other vv/vw devices like the vamo, svd, sid, evic, etc. But it's money well spent. Take a look at some of the higher end mechanicals and you'll think the provari is a steal!

 

[buddywally]

I really agree with everything Bill said. I was vaping Vamos (ver 2 & 3) and enjoying the large plumes of vapor (relative to what I could do with my egos). Then I got an Itaste MVP (for cheap, from Fasttech), and over time, I found myself just enjoying the vape from the Itaste more and more than the vamos (which started to completely fall apart, none of the three, are currently operational). Even using the same tank\topend, at the same settings (voltage), there was a noticeable difference in the quality and consistency of the vape. It all has to do with the circuitry, and Bill is right, these things are not simply battery holders. My Vamos all started burning coils, and seemed to have a difficulty maintaining consistency when their batteries fell to 50%.

For me, having smoked for nearly 30 years, I need something that I can count on. I have back ups to back ups to back ups because I NEVER want to put myself in a position to have the urge to buy another analog cig. This smoking\vaping thing is a habit, and I knew I needed to get something that provided the same, quality, urge-fulfilling experience every time. My Provari does this, in spades. From what I understand so does the REO, and most well-made DNA-20 devices.

I have a cart all filled up with my new REO-Grand, I'm gonna go check it again....I will probably be treating myself to a Futura for Christmas, or maybe just a Provari Mini.

 

[Baditude]

Mini Provari and Standard Provari. (Pics thanks to The Ocelot)



Standard Provari and a Mini Provari.

Provape Team interview by Spinfuel Magazine

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/289525-provari-made-usa.html

 

[dracu]

Mini Provari and Standard Provari. (Pics thanks to The Ocelot)

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Standard Provari and a Mini Provari.

Provape Team interview by Spinfuel Magazine

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/289525-provari-made-usa.html

The standard looks really elegant...I have to get that hookup.

 

[Diedrich]

Yeah this is a tough one. I've been vaping cig-alikes for about a year when just a few weeks ago I discovered the next level up and an using small ego batteries with a Protank2. I know I need to get better, longer lasting batteries. I was considering a $25 Vision Spinner 1300mAH and getting a few $10 Protank minis. I'll also have to look at the Tatroe, as was suggested, I know I LOVE next level vaping, and plan to be vaping for the rest of my life. It's Provari now or Provari later, that's for sure. Thanks for the great conversation and learning everyone! Donah, I do appreciate you tempering my urge to rush, or at least to stop and consider - I'm definitely the type that likes to go big and go fast, which can lead to problems sometimes.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I would love to have one, but not until they offer a wattage setting too. For that price you should have both options

Felt the same way once upon a time. I did eventually get my equivalent Provari with variable wattage (a nice Russian/German APV) and I still use the Provari as my every day work horse, home and abroad. The Provori is certainly not over priced compared with the Semovar, Furura, Cyborg and other tube mod APV's and the quality and accuracy is at least as good, certainly comparable in most respects. The Provari's durability and warranty are what sets it apart. One or two year warranty, fixed pricing on all repairs, ability to take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. Quality build. Totally worth it, and who needs variable wattage anyway. I preferred it once upon a time, but I certainly do not need it, and don't find it particularly preferable any longer. While I felt the same way you do in my early vape days, I evolved to appreciate a more comprehensive view of the APV. I preferred the eVic for a long time and loved the variable wattage and display and USB interface and charging. But 3 of the V1's died nine times on me. The V2 has not, but it's a remote backup, as the bloom is off the rose, so to speak. The vape is also superior to all but the super high end APV's because better voltage regulation translates into better atomization and a better vape. That's just a fact, and has nothing to due with variable wattage. I'd like the Provari with variable wattage, but it would make very little difference in how I vape. YMMV and it's just my opinion. My two cents.

 

[Txaggiesaunt]

Felt the same way once upon a time. I did eventually get my equivalent Provari with variable wattage (a nice Russian/German APV) and I still use the Provari as my every day work horse, home and abroad. The Provori is certainly not over priced compared with the Semovar, Furura, Cyborg and other tube mod APV's and the quality and accuracy is at least as good, certainly comparable in most respects. The Provari's durability and warranty are what sets it apart. One or two year warranty, fixed pricing on all repairs, ability to take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. Quality build. Totally worth it, and who needs variable wattage anyway. I preferred it once upon a time, but I certainly do not need it, and don't find it particularly preferable any longer. While I felt the same way you do in my early vape days, I evolved to appreciate a more comprehensive view of the APV. I preferred the eVic for a long time and loved the variable wattage and display and USB interface and charging. But 3 of the V1's died nine times on me. The V2 has not, but it's a remote backup, as the bloom is off the rose, so to speak. The vape is also superior to all but the super high end APV's because better voltage regulation translates into better atomization and a better vape. That's just a fact, and has nothing to due with variable wattage. I'd like the Provari with variable wattage, but it would make very little difference in how I vape. YMMV and it's just my opinion. My two cents.

Thanks for the info. When all is said and done, I will probably end up with one anyway. After all it am one of those...that well, everyone else has one so I need it kinda people...lol. VAPE ON

 

[rabernet]

The Provari is probably the best all around APV on the market. My third arrived last week. I have several other devices that cost more than a Provari, all of which I use differently than the Provari, which is my day in and day out work horse, both home and abroad. If you've been vaping any length of time, and have used the less expensive Chinese APV's, then you know that they do give up the ghost, often when I'm away from home, unfortunately. I've bought and used more than 30 APV's in my time, and reluctantly went to the Provari, because I needed something that would never leave me stranded. I did not want to buy a Provari, because I didn't want to be one of "them." I'm still not one of them, but I will vouch for the quality, durability, accuracy and warranty. They have no rival in those categories, collectively, imho. I've also found ways to "spruce mine up" with Tatroe's, Kir Fanis caps and extensions and have a new brass Cingulum Compleo on the way (Cingulum Compleo Set für ProVari Akkuträger - TrevVapor). So, not only do they perform great, but they look great as well. Look, they're not for everybody, and I wouldn't recommend them to a new vaper on a budget, but there are few devices in VapeWorld that compare, imho. I am not in the Provarinati, but still, it's easy to understand it's rise and dominance. Once you hold a Provari and vape one, you'll realize that superior voltage regulation in the battery (due to their proprietary chip) DOES PROVIDE A BETTER VAPE. As it turns out, a battery is not just a battery. The regulation has everything to do with the quality of the vape. If you haven't tried one, then you may not be aware of this, and I was just as surprised as the next guy when I discovered this. You just have to experience it. My two cents!

Wow - that Cingulum Completo is sexy!

 

[buddywally]

Why did I click that link?

(Cingulum Compleo Set für ProVari Akkuträger - TrevVapor).

I was doing just fine without knowing that existed.

...how much is 83 euro anyways?

 

[Ref Minor]

Why did I click that link?

(Cingulum Compleo Set für ProVari Akkuträger - TrevVapor).

I was doing just fine without knowing that existed.

...how much is 83 euro anyways?

It's about 110 in Monopoly money.

 

[dice57]

OMG, not another one!! lmao. You were doing so well till you dogged the Rio. Something for everyone, remember. Yeah, I agree with every word you said. Looked at a Rio, but not my thing. Provari is a great regulated mod. Welcome to Club Provari!!! Yes the price is not that high. Heck I've spent more in rba's then I did for my P. The Aqua alone was more than I paid for the Provari. But just take a gander at my banner, and one can quickly do the math and see that quality is not that expensive when compared to what we were spending.

Even if you buy another mod or get into mechs, the Provari will always be there. Though it would be nice if the did have the variable wattage option. Really enjoy my kick 2 on the Nemi, have cranked to 15 watts, and no matter what build I put on it, that's what I get. Guess I'm just getting lazy in my old age. lol.