Provari Radius

[optsmk]

Damn, wish I would have seen this earlier. I just ordered a Sigelei 75 watt 26650 and a E-vic mini 60 watt. I'm pretty sure the Radius is a great device, and I just might have to buy myself yet another device. I like the size, and I'm sure the quality is top notch. And since it is made by provape, it will last forever just like my 2.5 mini has. And in the scheme of things these days, $200.00 really isn't that bad. You can go to any vape shop and pick up a new Sigelei 200 watt for $150.00. So what's an extra 50 bucks? Sure the Sigelei is has a lot more wattage. But so far I have never had a need for more than 30-35 watts.

It seems like there are a lot of people who don't think the Radius is all that good. But I'm pretty sure they are all wrong. I still use my Provari 2.5 daily. Although I have a lot of other devices, I seem to always end up going back to this one.

Every mod has it's place. I have a few other devices that I use. I'm not even much of a coil builder or dripper, but I have a little Patriot that sits on top of my Stingray 26650 mod. It's great, but I usually only use it when I'm at home. For me dripping is just to much work when you are driving. I also have a SMPL. I love it, but I can only use my Patriot on it because none of my tanks will work. It's still good, just not good on the road. I even have a Blu Plus that I use a lot as well. The device is excellent if you are going to a bar to have a few drinks and want to vape in the bar. With my Blu, people don't seem to mind if I vape indoors. I'm quite sure if I had my Sigelei 150 watt with a .2ohm coil, everyone would freak out if they saw me vaping indoors.

The bottom line is if you are like me and spend a lot of time on the road and like a smaller device that can fit in your pocket and take a nice tank like a Nautilus or Atlantis, then it will be a great device for you. And if you don't mind paying a few bucks more for high quality, you will probably love it The more I write about it, the more I want one.

So... Please someone stop me quick before I just go off and order one before my other new devices have even arrived.

 

[The Torch]

Dropped both my Provari 2.5 on asphalt many times... not on purpose, though. Thanks for the review gt_1955.

I just find it a little odd they would call their first BOX mod "the Radius". How about "Hypotenuse" or "Pro Cubed" (okay, the corners are rounded off...)?? Doesn't really matter, I think I'm getting one early next year. Most people I know who like drippers and clouds still vape at 14 watts... I was recently thinking of getting something just a tad more powerful and flexible, keeping in mind I find anything over 20 watts somewhat violent. Sounds like I've found my muse...

 

[gt_1955]

Ha ha ... I dropped an eGo once

The rounded edges of the Radius feels more comfortable in the hand than the VTC mini (but it is only slightly, and I like both). But yes, strange name for a box mod

So I just updated the VTC mini and am using the same atty on it in SS TC mode. 410F, 32W ... not as good as the Radius, but you can feel the TC working. 430F, 32W ... too hot. So what is the benefit of TC again?

 

[PapaGeno21]

Damn, wish I would have seen this earlier. I just ordered a Sigelei 75 watt 26650 and a E-vic mini 60 watt. I'm pretty sure the Radius is a great device, and I just might have to buy myself yet another device. I like the size, and I'm sure the quality is top notch. And since it is made by provape, it will last forever just like my 2.5 mini has. And in the scheme of things these days, $200.00 really isn't that bad. You can go to any vape shop and pick up a new Sigelei 200 watt for $150.00. So what's an extra 50 bucks? Sure the Sigelei is has a lot more wattage. But so far I have never had a need for more than 30-35 watts.

It seems like there are a lot of people who don't think the Radius is all that good. But I'm pretty sure they are all wrong. I still use my Provari 2.5 daily. Although I have a lot of other devices, I seem to always end up going back to this one.

Every mod has it's place. I have a few other devices that I use. I'm not even much of a coil builder or dripper, but I have a little Patriot that sits on top of my Stingray 26650 mod. It's great, but I usually only use it when I'm at home. For me dripping is just to much work when you are driving. I also have a SMPL. I love it, but I can only use my Patriot on it because none of my tanks will work. It's still good, just not good on the road. I even have a Blu Plus that I use a lot as well. The device is excellent if you are going to a bar to have a few drinks and want to vape in the bar. With my Blu, people don't seem to mind if I vape indoors. I'm quite sure if I had my Sigelei 150 watt with a .2ohm coil, everyone would freak out if they saw me vaping indoors.

The bottom line is if you are like me and spend a lot of time on the road and like a smaller device that can fit in your pocket and take a nice tank like a Nautilus or Atlantis, then it will be a great device for you. And if you don't mind paying a few bucks more for high quality, you will probably love it The more I write about it, the more I want one.

So... Please someone stop me quick before I just go off and order one before my other new devices have even arrived.

The sigelei 150tc can be had for 70 bucks online. I got mine from vapenw.com a few weeks ago for 69.99 shipped. Not sure who is charging 150 bucks but that is just robbery.

And as far as quality, I would take the Sigelei as it is not half plastic.

Also when people are talking about dropping mods, I have dropped my older Sigelei 100w v2 multiple times onto my concrete driveway and she works fine. Looks like hell but still functions. I have since started using the silicone case lol.

 

[GeekyGeezer]

...Also, their comments on TC are so off the mark. Yes, it's a close estimate. Not exact. But, it's repeatable. So even if the temperature numbers are arbitrary, it's useful.

They also sell short the feedback that TC mods get.

I'm a few days behind but I agree. This is an entertaining thread, but that's pretty much guaranteed for any focusing on Pro Vape.

Even with the questionable decision to use plastic, I would have bought the Radius immediately if it had Temp Control (or Temp Limiting for the purists). Lately I've become a Zen acolyte as I was simply astounded with the Kabuki. Further research showed that his view of vaping was pretty spot-on to mine.

But I disagree with the theory that a company shouldn't produce a TC device unless it's perfect. Sorry, but there isn't a perfect device out there and my P3 is included. I think most of the ruckus over "TC is too complicated" and "TC isn't worth it" comes from the majority of TC products using buzzwords and not technology.

Since I have no other hobby, I spend more than I should on vaping. At last count I had twenty something mods, and most of them are TC. Of all these, the only mod that does a good job for me is the SX Mini. As for the rest, some are virtual shots at a dartbord and others manage to get close most of the time.

The DNA 200 approaches the SX but requires a fair amount of time in escribe getting things set correctly.

Why can't Pro Vape produce the Radius with the best TC out there whether it is perfect or not? They can refine to perfection as they go along. Yes, I know that they are justifiably proud of the quality of the output on their Provari but I'm in the camp that believes the "not until it's perfect" mantra is indeed a cop out.

 

[AstroTurf]

I'm a few days behind but I agree. This is an entertaining thread, but that's pretty much guaranteed for any focusing on Pro Vape.

Even with the questionable decision to use plastic, I would have bought the Radius immediately if it had Temp Control (or Temp Limiting for the purists). Lately I've become a Zen acolyte as I was simply astounded with the Kabuki. Further research showed that his view of vaping was pretty spot-on to mine.

But I disagree with the theory that a company shouldn't produce a TC device unless it's perfect. Sorry, but there isn't a perfect device out there and my P3 is included. I think most of the ruckus over "TC is too complicated" and "TC isn't worth it" comes from the majority of TC products using buzzwords and not technology.

Since I have no other hobby, I spend more than I should on vaping. At last count I had twenty something mods, and most of them are TC. Of all these, the only mod that does a good job fot me is the SX Mini. As for the rest, some are virtual shots at a dartbord and others manage to get close most of the time.

The DNA 200 approaches the SX but requires a fair amount of time in escribe getting things set correctly.

Why can't Pro Vape produce the Radius with the best TC out there whether it is perfect or not? They can refine to perfection as they go along. Yes, I know that they are justifiably proud of the quality of the output on their Provari but I'm in the camp that believes the "not until it's perfect" mantra is indeed a cop out.

Poor performing TC will draw a lawsuit...

Should ProVape roll the dice on that?

I don't think so.


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[GeekyGeezer]

Poor performing TC will draw a lawsuit...

Should ProVape roll the dice on that?

I don't think so.


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No way. I respectfully disagree. If poor performance or failing to meet specs resulted in litigation there would be just a handful of companies remaining. I'm looking at you Pioneer4you, Smok, Istick, Evolv, any battery rewrapper, Cherry Bomb, Trustfire, and countless others.

Besides, with the minds contained in Pro Vape I really doubt there would be any sort of poor performance. Yihi can do it, and evolv has finally stepped up. Pro Vape says they won't do a TC mod unless it's perfect. Nothing is perfect, nothing. I'm convinced that their present technology could produce TC every bit as good (or better) than Yihi or Evolv. That they insist it would be "not good enough" is, again as a singular opinion, disingenuous.

 

[footbag]

I'm a few days behind but I agree. This is an entertaining thread, but that's pretty much guaranteed for any focusing on Pro Vape.

Even with the questionable decision to use plastic, I would have bought the Radius immediately if it had Temp Control (or Temp Limiting for the purists). Lately I've become a Zen acolyte as I was simply astounded with the Kabuki. Further research showed that his view of vaping was pretty spot-on to mine.

But I disagree with the theory that a company shouldn't produce a TC device unless it's perfect. Sorry, but there isn't a perfect device out there and my P3 is included. I think most of the ruckus over "TC is too complicated" and "TC isn't worth it" comes from the majority of TC products using buzzwords and not technology.

Since I have no other hobby, I spend more than I should on vaping. At last count I had twenty something mods, and most of them are TC. Of all these, the only mod that does a good job fot me is the SX Mini. As for the rest, some are virtual shots at a dartbord and others manage to get close most of the time.

The DNA 200 approaches the SX but requires a fair amount of time in escribe getting things set correctly.

Why can't Pro Vape produce the Radius with the best TC out there whether it is perfect or not? They can refine to perfection as they go along. Yes, I know that they are justifiably proud of the quality of the output on their Provari but I'm in the camp that believes the "not until it's perfect" mantra is indeed a cop out.

I have my sx mini sitting on my desk. TC... Room temp... Hold the two buttons... Vape. It is the only mod I've owned that I still used after buying my next.

I agree that the DNA 200 is going to be too complex for some. So is wattage for that matter. I love escribe and having the logo profiles show up for each atty. Watching a graph while I'm vaping.

TC may not be perfect in that it has a large margin of error, but it works. It prevents dry hits and allows you to use a number of different types of wire. Tried SS the other day on my Crown. Awesome vape. Vaping keeps getting better and better. It's because the manufacturers are constantly coming up with new features.

When I got the DNA 200, I knew I didn't need 200w. But for the sake of what may be to come, I'm glad I have it.

I'll say it again, if Provari used the DNA 200 in this or made one, I'd buy it and pay a massive premium for an American made mod. A lot of people would. Provari has great build quality and that's whats missing from the DNA mods right now. They don't do menus well. For TC, you need a better menu.

I don't see how TC could be any more dangerous then vaping in general.

 

[roflwaffles]

For the amount of backlash the Radius has gotten online, I don't think its nearly as bad as it was with the P3.

Personally, I kind of fit within the segment that Provape is targeting - I don't vape above 40w on the regular and I don't use temp control because vaping on nickel and titanium makes me uneasy. I'm sure its a fine mod, I just don't care for it aesthetically and I'm really happy with the power/size/appearance of my VTC Mini's.

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm still on the fence about buying one, but I SO love the Provarihate threads that I'm subscribing.

I am an admitted fanboy, although I only own a bunch of V2 and V2.5's because I'm also a wimpy-vaper (aka Tootle Puffer?).

I LOVE THESE THREADS! THANKS @Katdarling !!!

 

[DPLongo22]

Loving the radius so far. The chip is amazingly smooth. I get a smoother vape with the radius than I do with my DNA 40s. That says a lot.

It certainly does (say a lot). Thanks, SPV - good info.

 

[DPLongo22]

But, what about the build of the mod itself? Will it still work after you bash in a skull?

THAT would push ME over the fence.

 

[DPLongo22]

But sales have dropped. Market share is down, too. If that continues, where are they in a couple of years. Especially, if other companies are upping their game, as they are. Their introduction of the box style and going to 40 watts is an indicator that they are recognizing the change in the market, but they don't see TC or "high" wattages as dominating. But, on this site, most posts tend to be the other way (hobbyists).

Be nice to see their market analysis, but their action in putting out the Radius does say something. I am past the $40 mod that might make steam come out of my ears. So, I am interested.

Sales have dropped?

 

[DPLongo22]

Well, I don't have any evidence (or course), but I would wager that the P3 didn't do what they had hoped and that Provape has lost market share. I say this based on how quickly the prices of Provari's dropped (especially in resale), the number of sales (discounts) they had for the P3 (sales previously seemed somewhat rare), and the reduced number of Provari discussions on this forum over the last year. Up until the Radius thread, there wasn't much talk about Provari's any more here (certainly not like there was a year or two ago). I've certainly read more posts from former Provari owners that weren't interested in the P3 (or Radius) than I have non-provari owners interested in getting their first one. Does that mean they're in trouble? Don't know.

I would wager the exact opposite, if forced to. Market growth alone would probably be enough to increase sales. Since they're not a public company though, we can all only guess.

 

[DPLongo22]

hmm... just checked out the provape website, they have protective silicone sleeves for sale the radius. this makes me very suspicious...

then again, looks like most of the 2.5's are on sale for $80. might be time to stock up

My sentiments exactly.

 

[DPLongo22]

I have to admit that the last two releases from Provari has me questioning their longevity.

The vape world is being dominated by smart electronics, and the Provari's seem to be lacking the really desirable features. China is actually getting better at making high quality cases, and they are importing the DNA chips.

At least Evolv, knew they needed something big and delivered. Provari is two years behind.

Does everyone need 40w and TC? No, but if you can have it all for 1/4 the price, then why consider the alternative?

Like Blackberry.

I couldn't resist.

 

[DPLongo22]

Provape is known for their reliability and warranty. While I think there are other reliable devices out there, Provari has a good reputation. That said, how long can they bank on that reliability allowing them to sell devices with minimal features?

At this point, Provari's only competitive advantage is their reliability, and you have to give up more modern features to get that.

I don't vape features. Two of my favorite mods don't even have display screens. I am a simple and fortunate man.

What modern features are we giving up? Temp control it's far from being perfect, most people 90% don't need or want it. Only the wannabe rocket scientists who want to make vaping and quiting cigs complicated. Get a life scientist.

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[AstroTurf]

Sales have dropped?

Yes, They are dropping... Thru the roof.

I don't expect them to stop dropping until they get to the moon either!!!

LOLz, Jim

 

[DPLongo22]

I will not argue that point, but I do think it's a bit overstated.

I've owned over 30 devices in the last 2.5 years and NONE of them have failed. Not my Segelei's, or isticks, or Innokin products, or anything else. While I have broken the glass on a few tanks, I've never had a mod fail, so reliability is not really an issue for me.

And you may be the most fortunate vaper ever!

I've had failures. Even a Provi, in fact (which was returned less than seven days later, in perfect condition).

 

[DPLongo22]

Provari used to be good for some epic innerweb flame wars.

Now no one even cares enough to argue.

In a way its sad but really it just is what it is.

I do agree with the above that this is a weird roll out. Reviews are slow coming. Even the soft targets like Pbusardo hasn't had a puff piece on this yet. That would be funny. Every time he looked at it and said its ok a voice in the back ground goes "boy, I wish the button was on top". I hear that voice sometimes when I use my SX.

Oh no.... I hope this is incorrect.