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Been spending money elsewhere and you all try to make me spend it here :)
I have a dozen bolts for my crossbow that are about $35 each with the broadheads (not all get broadheads)!
Also trying to focus on using up old liquids. I don't need to be creating more until they're gone. Although the straight Liquid Amber in the Chocolate Raspberry tank was good.

Only 1200 posts. You guys are slipping :lol:
You are in luck...we had been hoping for some Columbus day sales but it looks as tho it ain't gonna happen...:(

What does Liquid Amber taste like?
 

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Question.This is the first 10% dilution I've ever done. So if I want 1% HS IC in a mix then I use 1% of the dilution for every 10ml? As in 3ml for a 30ml bottle?

If I understand things correctly...

You made a 10% Solution of some Flavoring. Now you want to make 30ml of Flavored e-liquid that is at 1% Flavoring using the Solution as the Flavoring.

Yikes... This is going to be one of those Word Problems where Answer is some 10x Multiple or 10x Quotient of the everything else. And everything looks the Same it's just the Decimal place is in a Different Location.

LOL! Anyway... Let's start at the End and Work Backwards.

You want to End Up with 30ml of Flavored e-liquid that is at 1% Total Flavoring.

So => 30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml of Total Flavoring

Now if you had some 100% Flavoring, you'd just add .3ml to 29.7ml and it would be Miller Time. But you Don't have 100% Flavoring. You have a Solution that is 10% Flavoring. So to get to the Same amount of Total Flavor, it sounds like you are going to have to Add More than .3ml because the Solution is "Weaker" than 100% Flavoring. It's only 10%.

So How Much of the Solution do I need so I have .3ml of Total Flavoring?

Well, if we call the amount of 10% Solution I need "SOL", then SOL x .10 needs to equal to .3ml

=> SOL x .10 = .3ml
=> SOL = .3ml/.10
=> SOL = 3ml

This sounds about Right. I need 10 Times more Solution than Pure Flavoring because my Solution is 10 Times weaker than Pure Flavoring.

So to Make 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid at 1% Total Flavoring I need to use 3ml of my 10% Solution.

OK. But Now that I'm half way down the Rabbit Hole, Might as well go All the Way to the Bottom. So let's look at some other Mixes...

30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml Total Flavoring => Use 3ml of the 10% Solution
30ml @ 2% Flavoring = .6ml Total Flavoring => Use 6ml of the 10% Solution
45ml @ 4% Flavoring = 1.8ml Total Flavoring => Use 18ml of the 10% Solution

I think I see the Pattern here.

For a Given % of Flavoring, I multiple the amount of Flavored e-Liquid to be made by the Flavoring % which gives me my Total Flavoring. Then I Multiply the Total Flavoring number by 10 because my Solution is a 10% Solution.

Now the Multiply by 10 thing ONLY works with a 10% Solution. And in a Way, it is kinda a Trap (see the Yikes above). Because if I was working with a 20% Solution, it would be Easy to think I would just Multiply by 20. But that Not Right.

Because a 20% Solution is Strong than a 10% Solution. So you would need Less Solution. Not More.

More like multiply Total Flavoring by 5. But I'll let someone else Check the Math.

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BTW - If this is all Wrong. And Not what you are trying to do, then LMK. And I'll Delete It.
 

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You are in luck...we had been hoping for some Columbus day sales but it looks as tho it ain't gonna happen...:(

What does Liquid Amber taste like?

Sweetgum tree sap :lol:

It's hard to describe. Spicy. It's in my Smokey Plum and 1% went a long way. In the Pornegranate 2% blended in.
 

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If I understand things correctly...

You made a 10% Solution of some Flavoring. Now you want to make 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid that is at 1% Flavoring using the Solution as the Flavoring.

Yikes... This is going to be one of those Word Problems where Answer is some 10x Multiple or 10x Quotient of the everything else. And everything looks the Same it's just the Decimal place is in a Different Location.

LOL! Anyway... Let's start at the End and Work Backwards.

You want to End Up with 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid that is at 1% Total Flavoring.

So => 30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml of Total Flavoring

Now if you had some 100% Flavoring, you'd just add .3ml to 29.7ml and it would be Miller Time. But you Don't have 100% Flavoring. You have a Solution that is 10% Flavoring. So to get to the Same amount of Total Flavor, it sounds like you are going to have to Add More than .3ml because the Solution is "Weaker" than 100% Flavoring. It's only 10%.

So How Much of the Solution do I need so I have .3ml of Total Flavoring?

Well, if we call the amount of 10% Solution I need "SOL", then SOL x .10 needs to equal to .3ml

=> SOL x .10 = .3ml
=> SOL = .3ml/.10
=> SOL = 3ml

This sounds about Right. I need 10 Times more Solution than Pure Flavoring because my Solution is 10 Times weaker than Pure Flavoring.

So to Make 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid at 1% Total Flavoring I need to use 3ml of my 10% Solution.

OK. But Now that I'm half way down the Rabbit Hole, Might as well go All the Way to the Bottom. So let's look at some other Mixes...

30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml Total Flavoring => Use 3ml of the 10% Solution
30ml @ 2% Flavoring = .6ml Total Flavoring => Use 6ml of the 10% Solution
45ml @ 4% Flavoring = 1.8ml Total Flavoring => Use 18ml of the 10% Solution

I think I see the Pattern here.

For a Given % of Flavoring, I multiple the amount of Flavored e-Liquid to be made by the Flavoring % which gives me my Total Flavoring. Then I Multiply the Total Flavoring number by 10 because my Solution is a 10% Solution.

Now the Multiply by 10 thing ONLY works with a 10% Solution. And in a Way, it is kinda a Trap (see the Yikes above). Because if I was working with a 20% Solution, it would be Easy to think I would just Multiply by 20. But that Not Right.

Because a 20% Solution is Strong than a 10% Solution. So you would need Less Solution. Not More.

More like multiply Total Flavoring by 5. But I'll let someone else Check the Math.

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BTW - If this is all Wrong. And Not what you are trying to do, then LMK. And I'll Delete It.


Thank you so much for this z. It will come in very handy if this situation ever comes up again. I think @FranC got the answers she was looking for for her particular situation, but this post is very useful.....

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    If I understand things correctly...

    You made a 10% Solution of some Flavoring. Now you want to make 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid that is at 1% Flavoring using the Solution as the Flavoring.

    Yikes... This is going to be one of those Word Problems where Answer is some 10x Multiple or 10x Quotient of the everything else. And everything looks the Same it's just the Decimal place is in a Different Location.

    LOL! Anyway... Let's start at the End and Work Backwards.

    You want to End Up with 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid that is at 1% Total Flavoring.

    So => 30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml of Total Flavoring

    Now if you had some 100% Flavoring, you'd just add .3ml to 29.7ml and it would be Miller Time. But you Don't have 100% Flavoring. You have a Solution that is 10% Flavoring. So to get to the Same amount of Total Flavor, it sounds like you are going to have to Add More than .3ml because the Solution is "Weaker" than 100% Flavoring. It's only 10%.

    So How Much of the Solution do I need so I have .3ml of Total Flavoring?

    Well, if we call the amount of 10% Solution I need "SOL", then SOL x .10 needs to equal to .3ml

    => SOL x .10 = .3ml
    => SOL = .3ml/.10
    => SOL = 3ml

    This sounds about Right. I need 10 Times more Solution than Pure Flavoring because my Solution is 10 Times weaker than Pure Flavoring.

    So to Make 30ml of Flavored e-Liquid at 1% Total Flavoring I need to use 3ml of my 10% Solution.

    OK. But Now that I'm half way down the Rabbit Hole, Might as well go All the Way to the Bottom. So let's look at some other Mixes...

    30ml @ 1% Flavoring = .3ml Total Flavoring => Use 3ml of the 10% Solution
    30ml @ 2% Flavoring = .6ml Total Flavoring => Use 6ml of the 10% Solution
    45ml @ 4% Flavoring = 1.8ml Total Flavoring => Use 18ml of the 10% Solution

    I think I see the Pattern here.

    For a Given % of Flavoring, I multiple the amount of Flavored e-Liquid to be made by the Flavoring % which gives me my Total Flavoring. Then I Multiply the Total Flavoring number by 10 because my Solution is a 10% Solution.

    Now the Multiply by 10 thing ONLY works with a 10% Solution. And in a Way, it is kinda a Trap (see the Yikes above). Because if I was working with a 20% Solution, it would be Easy to think I would just Multiply by 20. But that Not Right.

    Because a 20% Solution is Strong than a 10% Solution. So you would need Less Solution. Not More.

    More like multiply Total Flavoring by 5. But I'll let someone else Check the Math.

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    BTW - If this is all Wrong. And Not what you are trying to do, then LMK. And I'll Delete It.
    Thank you for such a nice and humorous post:) easy to understand too
     

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    I also just mixed up some of your Choc Rasp CheeseCake. Except I subbed WF Chocolate Chunks for the TFA Double Choc. Hope its good.

    :)
    Should be fine. The Double Chocolate is good too.
     

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    I plan on trying the HS Aus Chocolate first. Then I plan on a 10ml mix of 1.5% HS IC and 2% VT Chocolate mousse.
    Sounds good.

    Looks like no Columbus Day Sales. :( I am tired of waiting on BCF so am thinking about putting in an order this evening.

    :)
     

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    Thank you for such a nice and humorous post:) easy to understand too

    Thank you for the Kind Words FranC.

    I kinda went out on limb there and Violated what Many consider to be a Fundamental Rule of Mathematics.

    "All Mathematics should be Dry, Boring, and Described with the Upmost Seriousness to the Point of Almost being Confusing."

    ;)
     

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    Thank you for the Kind Words FranC.

    I kinda went out on limb there and Violated what Many consider to be a Fundamental Rule of Mathematics.

    "All Mathematics should be Dry, Boring, and Described with the Upmost Seriousness to the Point of Almost being Confusing."

    ;)
    I like your way much better:)
     

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    Question.This is the first 10% dilution I've ever done. So if I want 1% HS IC in a mix then I use 1% <typo? should read "10% of dilution"> of the dilution for every 10ml? As in 3ml for a 30ml bottle? <correct; 3mL is 10% of 30mL, and results in 1% of flavoring.>
    Looked like there might have been a typo, Fran. But you appear to have the correct idea.:)

    @zoiDman said it better than I ever could. And, if that was too much to remember, he summed it all up in this one sentence:
    "I need 10 Times more Solution than <undiluted> flavoring because my Solution is 10 Times weaker than <undiluted> flavoring."
    highly diluted is the phrase that confuses me.....it is an oxymoron.
    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    Not only is it an oxymoron... it is just plain wrong! Or, at bare minimum; a bad choice of words. "Higher concentration" or "less diluted" would have been more appropriate to what I was trying to communicate.

    No wonder poor Fran was getting confused. Sorry about that; entirely my fault.:D:blush::D
     

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    Sounds good.

    Looks like no Columbus Day Sales. :( I am tired of waiting on BCF so am thinking about putting in an order this evening.

    :)
    I may do that also. Really like to have that cream cheese..

    I did try the Aus Chocolate and I'm not crazy about it. I doesn't even taste much like chocolate to me. May need the long steep...IDK.
     

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    Looked like there might have been a typo, Fran. But you appear to have the correct idea.:)

    @zoiDman said it better than I ever could. And, if that was too much to remember, he summed it all up in this one sentence:
    "I need 10 Times more Solution than <undiluted> flavoring because my Solution is 10 Times weaker than <undiluted> flavoring."

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    Not only is it an oxymoron... it is just plain wrong! Or, at bare minimum; a bad choice of words. "Higher concentration" or "less diluted" would have been more appropriate to what I was trying to communicate.

    No wonder poor Fran was getting confused. Sorry about that; entirely my fault.:D:blush::D
    Yes,that's a typo.........
     

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    What % do you use if you would make a SFT and what % in mixes? I have the flavor just haven't ever opened the bottle.:facepalm:
    I haven't tried as a single flavor; so I have no recommendation. In multi-flavor ingredient recipes; I usually find 3-4% is enough.:)
     

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    I may do that also. Really like to have that cream cheese..

    I did try the Aus Chocolate and I'm not crazy about it. I doesn't even taste much like chocolate to me. May need the long steep...IDK.
    I’m getting more “tootsie roll” flavor from it. I’ll give it 4 more weeks to see if it helps
     

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