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As I was walking out the door this morning to leave for Alabama, the postman came with my BCF order , a day early. Cruel, cruel, cruel :(:cry::(. Opened it, and the granola top had cracked. Only leaked a little out in its sealed baggie.... it should be okay to use, no? Of course, it was the “expensive” flavor
Of course it was the expensive one. Should be fine to use.
 

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It's fine,Mel:wub:
I almost packed up my mixing supplies to bring, until I came to my senses and realized how much stuff it really is. Car was already packed to the gills. I swear the stuff multiplies in that dark closet :rolleyes:
 

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Your sensitive taste buds does not taste flavors with EM?

It is not only EM — Maltol, Vanillin and Sucralose all may mute the flavor of the juice for me. Sometimes I can taste the juice initially and after that it is lights out and never comes back. No doubt the flavor manufacturers are aware of what these compounds do however they use them in their flavorings for other purposes. There are several manufacturers that use more than one of these compounds in a flavoring. A year or so ago there was a thread about EM and others that cause muting. Made me feel good that I wasn’t going crazy ;) @IDJoel is right in saying he does not consider EM a sweetener at a certain percent. I read somewhere what its purpose in life is but can’t recall offhand.
 

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    I almost packed up my mixing supplies to bring, until I came to my senses and realized how much stuff it really is. Car was already packed to the gills. I swear the stuff multiplies in that dark closet :rolleyes:
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    It is not only EM — Maltol, Vanillin and Sucralose all may mute the flavor of the juice for me. Sometimes I can taste the juice initially and after that it is lights out and never comes back. No doubt the flavor manufacturers are aware of what these compounds do however they use them in their flavorings for other purposes. There are several manufacturers that use more than one of these compounds in a flavoring. A year or so ago there was a thread about EM and others that cause muting. Made me feel good that I wasn’t going crazy ;) @IDJoel is right in saying he does not consider EM a sweetener at a certain percent. I read somewhere what its purpose in life is but can’t recall offhand.
    In small percentages it can help knock the edge off some citrus flavors. Thats about all I use it for
     

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    I’m finishing a tank of creme brulee cheesecake... pretty good. Quick rewick, then the pecan cookie. I’ve been looking forward to it, so I saved it for my trip.
    Y’all have all weekend to come up with fabulous granola recipes. Or ideas so I can mix with it when I get home
     

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    I’m finishing a tank of creme brulee cheesecake... pretty good. Quick rewick, then the pecan cookie. I’ve been looking forward to it, so I saved it for my trip.
    Y’all have all weekend to come up with fabulous granola recipes. Or ideas so I can mix with it when I get home
    Hope the cookie lives up to your expectations:)
     

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    I have not. Even though coconut is a favorite for me, I would not be able to taste it because it is one of their SC flavors. I have tried only two of their non-SC flavors — Peach Pie & Cream and Ruyan Custard. Both flavors at 5% in a mix was weak.
    I've tried a nice selection of WF's flavors and I'm pretty happy with them, but not comparing to other brands, I just don't really have the experience yet. I will say I did sfts of wf peach pie and cream and CAP Peaches and Cream at 5% and the wf pie was more flavorful, still wanted a little more peach though. Did a 5% WF Shortbread cookie and that was too strong for me, will probably keep that one to 2 to 3% max.

    I often wonder how much difference many of us get from flavors due to our different vape setups or styles. The conversation about %'s with @AXIOM_1 above got me thinking about it again.
    I almost exclusively vape on an Aromamizer Plus RTA with dual Kanthal coils around .2 to .3 at 60 to 80 watts, pretty warm, cloudy, and flavorful. I was concerned when I started mixing about sweetness levels especially because I was getting really turned off of how sweet so many commercial liquids are. I figured I wanted some sweetener and used up to 1% in mixes for about a month, but that quickly tapered off and I don't add sweeteners to any of my mixes right now.
    As far as flavor percentages, some of my initial tries were around 20% some closer to 10%. The higher percentage recipes I wanted to try for others who were using commercial liquids or mtl style tanks like the Nautilus, the lower ones were more for me. A lot of the mixes I've been doing lately are anywhere from 13 down to 6% total, no sweetener. Many flavors come off a little sweet to me as they are. I do single flavor testers at 5% as a baseline, a couple have been too strong for me, but that may be because the flavor didn't agree with my pallette (it tasted funky lol). Mixes, i think the max I'm using for a main flavoring is 6%, with maybe 3% for more supporting flavorings, and that's pretty darn strong generally.
    One more thing to note: steeeeeep. Sweetness seems to come out more with steeping along with flavor. I've been happiest with pretty much all my mixes after 1 month, a couple I have had for over 2 months and they really feel "right" now. So sad, I have about 10 mls of one of my first recipes, a hazelnut latte, and it is so good but it's going to get vaped tomorrow lol, and then it's gone. I need to mix that one again. Recipe! (not mine) found on ELR.

    Hazelnut Latte -
    1% Fresh Cream FA
    0.5 Dark Bean (Coffee Espresso) FA
    1.5 Double Chocolate CAP
    1 Dulce de Leche TPA
    3 Hazel Grove (Hazelnut) FA
    2 Hazelnut V2 CAP
    0.5 Irish Cream FA
    0.5 Milk & Honey FLV
    2 Pralines and Cream CAP
     

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    I've tried a nice selection of WF's flavors and I'm pretty happy with them, but not comparing to other brands, I just don't really have the experience yet. I will say I did sfts of wf peach pie and cream and CAP Peaches and Cream at 5% and the wf pie was more flavorful, still wanted a little more peach though. Did a 5% WF Shortbread cookie and that was too strong for me, will probably keep that one to 2 to 3% max.

    I often wonder how much difference many of us get from flavors due to our different vape setups or styles. The conversation about %'s with @AXIOM_1 above got me thinking about it again.
    I almost exclusively vape on an Aromamizer Plus RTA with dual Kanthal coils around .2 to .3 at 60 to 80 watts, pretty warm, cloudy, and flavorful. I was concerned when I started mixing about sweetness levels especially because I was getting really turned off of how sweet so many commercial liquids are. I figured I wanted some sweetener and used up to 1% in mixes for about a month, but that quickly tapered off and I don't add sweeteners to any of my mixes right now.
    As far as flavor percentages, some of my initial tries were around 20% some closer to 10%. The higher percentage recipes I wanted to try for others who were using commercial liquids or mtl style tanks like the Nautilus, the lower ones were more for me. A lot of the mixes I've been doing lately are anywhere from 13 down to 6% total, no sweetener. Many flavors come off a little sweet to me as they are. I do single flavor testers at 5% as a baseline, a couple have been too strong for me, but that may be because the flavor didn't agree with my pallette (it tasted funky lol). Mixes, i think the max I'm using for a main flavoring is 6%, with maybe 3% for more supporting flavorings, and that's pretty darn strong generally.
    One more thing to note: steeeeeep. Sweetness seems to come out more with steeping along with flavor. I've been happiest with pretty much all my mixes after 1 month, a couple I have had for over 2 months and they really feel "right" now. So sad, I have about 10 mls of one of my first recipes, a hazelnut latte, and it is so good but it's going to get vaped tomorrow lol, and then it's gone. I need to mix that one again. Recipe! (not mine) found on ELR.

    Hazelnut Latte -
    1% Fresh Cream FA
    0.5 Dark Bean (Coffee Espresso) FA
    1.5 Double Chocolate CAP
    1 Dulce de Leche TPA
    3 Hazel Grove (Hazelnut) FA
    2 Hazelnut V2 CAP
    0.5 Irish Cream FA
    0.5 Milk & Honey FLV
    2 Pralines and Cream CAP
    Ty for posting. I'm sure I can work with that recipe. The Dulce de Leche is way too sweet for me.
     

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    Hazelnut Latte -
    1% Fresh Cream FA
    0.5 Dark Bean (Coffee Espresso) FA
    1.5 Double Chocolate CAP
    1 Dulce de Leche TPA
    3 Hazel Grove (Hazelnut) FA
    2 Hazelnut V2 CAP
    0.5 Irish Cream FA
    0.5 Milk & Honey FLV
    2 Pralines and Cream CAP

    I'd like to note with this recipe, some of the flavorings at very small percentages can definitely be tasted. .5 Irish cream is noticeable to me and I intend to decrease that just a hair (.35) when I remix. Also lower the pralines and cream to 1.5 and raise the Dark Bean Espresso to .75.
     

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    I don't know much about the dulce, I thought the pralines were a little too prominent.
    Yep,that's too sweet for me too. I have to work around a lot of flavors but I can do that pretty well.
     

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    Omit the coffee and add a little more of a chocolate? Could boost the hazelnut with WF Hazelnuts and Cream. The hazelnut could have been just a bit stronger for my tastes.
    There's a number of options:)
     

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