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[Bronze]

I also have some tobacco base recipes if I can find them.

Remember, I'm NET all the way.

 

[PapawBrett]

Remember, I'm NET all the way.

I just tried a NET flavor that is sweet and smooth, no added flavors. Sutliff's Creamy Butterscotch might be something to consider. I sent some to @hittman earlier, and he seemed to enjoy it.
Maybe looking for aromatic blends could be an option...

 

[hittman]

I just tried a NET flavor that is sweet and smooth, no added flavors. Sutliff's Creamy Butterscotch might be something to consider. I sent some to @hittman earlier, and he seemed to enjoy it.
Maybe looking for aromatic blends could be an option...

I do like it quite a bit. I also like the virginia spice. I haven't tried the cherry one yet. Its the last one to try.

 

[Iron Molly]

So I'm also trying to find a non-tobacco base. Judging from what many here are vaping I am trying this as a base:

Bavarian Creme (TPA) 3%
NY Cheesecake (CAP) 3%
Graham Cracker Clear (TPA) 2%
Vanilla Custard (CAP) 2%

Hope this puts me in the ballpark.

Same flavor profile as my ADV base. I usually add strawberry, sometimes raspberry or blackberry for a change. Other things I add in sometimes are Cream Cheese Frosting and/or Vanilla Bean Ice Cream. I am a big fan of cream cheese frosting instead of/in addition to the NY Cheescake. It adds a lot of depth to it IMO.

 

[Zazie]

Ha! I had three flavors on my wish list too at BCFs. I was headed in their neck of the woods yesterday so I went ahead and placed the order and picked it up.

The guinea pig mantle passes to you.

 

[Bronze]

The guinea pig mantle passes to you.

 

[Zazie]

Do you happen to have WF Tahitian Vanilla Cream? I actually like it a little better than the INW version and I think it would work well in that recipe at the same percentage.

Sadly, no. But maybe I should get it instead of the INW.

 

[Zazie]

Same flavor profile as my ADV base. I usually add strawberry, sometimes raspberry or blackberry for a change. Other things I add in sometimes are Cream Cheese Frosting and/or Vanilla Bean Ice Cream. I am a big fan of cream cheese frosting instead of/in addition to the NY Cheescake. It adds a lot of depth to it IMO.

Which Cream Cheese Frosting?

 

[FranC]

Remember, I'm NET all the way.

The beauty is any tobacco can be used.

 

[PJReid]

@Zazie and others who want to try something in the grapefruit-flavored juices, my absolute favorite is one I tinkered with for quite some time and am SO happy with the result.

Pink Grapefruit Lemonade
Fizzy Sherbet (VTA) 2%
Lemon (FE) 2%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1%
Pink Guava (FLV) .75%
Raspberry (Berryl) (FA) 2%
Ruby Red Grapefruit (FW) 3% (VTA Grapefruit is a Ruby Red grapefruit and would work here)
Sour Lemon (VTA) 2%
Super Sweet (CAP) .5%
WS23 (30%) .5%

Best with a 7 day steep.

I would think that the SS and the WS23 would be optional, depending on your tastes. This is a great mix, IMHO.

 

[NGAHaze]

Sadly, no. But maybe I should get it instead of the INW.

It's definitely worth having IMHO.

 

[Iron Molly]

Which Cream Cheese Frosting?

Sorry, it's Cream Cheese Icing, not frosting, Lorann. It does need a good steep.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Sadly, no. But maybe I should get it instead of the INW.

I would not. Just goes to show how different pallets are. Lol. I did not care for the WF but you might. Hard to beat the inw imo.

 

[Zazie]

@Zazie and others who want to try something in the grapefruit-flavored juices, my absolute favorite is one I tinkered with for quite some time and am SO happy with the result.

Pink Grapefruit Lemonade
Fizzy Sherbet (VTA) 2%
Lemon (FE) 2%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1%
Pink Guava (FLV) .75%
Raspberry (Berryl) (FA) 2%
Ruby Red Grapefruit (FW) 3% (VTA Grapefruit is a Ruby Red grapefruit and would work here)
Sour Lemon (VTA) 2%
Super Sweet (CAP) .5%
WS23 (30%) .5%

I would think that the SS and the WS23 would be optional, depending on your tastes. This is a great mix, IMHO.

And for this one I do have all the ingredients. It's going right on the "next mix" list.

 

[Zazie]

Sorry, it's Cream Cheese Icing, not frosting, Lorann. It does need a good steep.

Aha! I was wondering if that were the one.

 

[hittman]

@Zazie and others who want to try something in the grapefruit-flavored juices, my absolute favorite is one I tinkered with for quite some time and am SO happy with the result.

Pink Grapefruit Lemonade
Fizzy Sherbet (VTA) 2%
Lemon (FE) 2%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1%
Pink Guava (FLV) .75%
Raspberry (Berryl) (FA) 2%
Ruby Red Grapefruit (FW) 3% (VTA Grapefruit is a Ruby Red grapefruit and would work here)
Sour Lemon (VTA) 2%
Super Sweet (CAP) .5%
WS23 (30%) .5%

I would think that the SS and the WS23 would be optional, depending on your tastes. This is a great mix, IMHO.

That does sound good. I need to see what grapefruit I have. I’m not sure if I have either of the ones suggested. Work has been real crap all week so far. If I had more vacation time, I’d take off. I’ll just try some mixing therapy.

 

[hittman]

I only have FA grapefruit and Inw grapefruit. I wonder if either of them might work?

 

[Zazie]

It's definitely worth having IMHO.

I would not. Just goes to show how different pallets are. Lol. I did not care for the WF but you might. Hard to beat the inw imo.

Eh, I'll just get both. What the hey.

 

[NGAHaze]

Eh, I'll just get both. What the hey.

There ya' go!

I wasn't trying to imply that the INW wasn't good, it's just not my favorite. For me at least, it's a bit thin and more like a whipped cream but like S&S said, palates are different so it's not surprising that everyone doesn't agree with me.

They really should but ...

 

[PJReid]

I only have FA grapefruit and Inw grapefruit. I wonder if either of them might work?

There is a big difference between FA Grapefruit, INW Grapefruit and the Ruby Reds - FW and VTA. INW and FA are both thin with no mouthfeel. Both the FW and the VTA have some nice body, which makes them perfect when you don't want to add marshmallow or cream to get mouthfeel and body. Here are my notes. The notes on VTA are actually Liam Davey's notes and not mine, since I used it in the mix without doing an SFT (*blushing*). I find FW Ruby Red and VTA Grapefruit to be similar, with FW winning by a hair for me.

FLAVORAH

• Pink Guava

The only flavor I pick up is a bright delicious grapefruit. It is tart and fresh – luscious even! This is a delicious, slightly sweet fresh grapefruit. Some say they pick up lychee, pineapple, even strawberry but I tasted delicious sweet, not sour grapefruit. WONDERFUL!!!! This captures the pleasant bitter flavor of the grapefruit, plus a whole lot of flavor. It is also juicy, a bonus in a grapefruit mix, with a full bodied mouthfeel.

RunDastardly says, “a juicy, ripe, idealized pink grapefruit that has it's own yummy wetness akin to INW Cactus (though it plays very well with Cactus at low % too!). It has something "extra" to it, but that adds to, rather than detracts from, it's grapefruitiness. Strong as hell. Excellent stand-alone, but also works beautifully with any number of other fruits, especially other citrus & juicy tropical fruits like mango and pineapple.”

FLAVOUR ART

• Grapefruit

Authentic, natural grapefruit, light, tart, and a little bitter. It is thin, so doesn’t give any mouthfeel but the flavor is spot on natural grapefruit

Wayne’s Notes: “This is the more authentic grapefruit of the bunch. It has such a natural quality about it, and this makes the flavoring an easy choice if you need an unadulterated grapefruit flavor. So for main profiles, this is usually what I enjoy using if I want a true to life grapefruit flavor. It's a light flavoring (this is a pattern you'll see in all of these ingredients) so using at 3-4% is not uncommon. But it's refreshing, slightly tart and bitter, a bit more sweet than you'd think, and light on body. Lastly, it's best used in more simple recipes when acting as a main profile. It really shines when it's not crowded with other fruits distracting from its subtle accents. Keep things simple and light, and you'll be just fine.”

FLAVOR WEST

• Ruby Red Grapefruit

Nice red grapefruit flavor. A little sweeter than Flavorah Pink Guava, and I honestly get more of a lush grapefruit aroma from Flavorah’s Pink Guava. This is really nice and if I had never tried Pink Guava, I would probably think this was the queen of grapefruit flavors. In a grapefruit blend, this flavor has its place. It has a sweet, tart balance and does taste like a real grapefruit. This is the sweet body of the grapefruit. For a grapefruit vape, use Pink Guava, Ruby Red, and White Grapefruit for a complete grapefruit flavor. This does impart some full bodied mouthfeel as it is not as thin as INW and FA.

ConcreteRiver says “Good, straight-forward, ruby red grapefruit juice. It's sweet, a little tart, and right on target. This is what I'd pick up if I were to pick up just one grapefruit concentrate. I think this one blends the easiest with other fruit flavors and creams.”

INAWERA

• White Grapefruit

An authentic grapefruit flavor. This one has the zest. This one has the grapefruit juice flavor, for me. This is heavy on the bitter zest. There is some light sweetness here. It tastes like a white grapefruit, similar in taste to a ruby red. Perfect for adding a zest note to any fruit. This would be great with cranberry. Citric, bright, and tart. Thin in mouthfeel.

RunDastardly says, “A drier version of INW Grapefruit with much more peel. If INW Grapefruit is the pulp & juice, this is the zest. 0.25% or less adds a nice "twist" essence to a cocktail.” Wayne’s Notes: “This grapefruit is the lightest of the bunch (CAP, FA, & INW). But it packs the most tartness, bitterness, and citrus. So in situations where I want to boost the citrus in a recipe, boost its sour flavor, or add some interesting dimension, I'll reach for this ingredient. This is because its flavor profile often gets a bit too hidden in recipes that have any kind of weight to it, but the tartness and citrus remain. It's of the "white" grapefruit variety meaning there's this refreshing, almost water-like, flavor to it in the top end. This can be further pushed by a touch of FA Cucumber. And when using as an accent or "enhancer", I like to sit around 0.5 - 1.5%.”

• Yellow Grapefruit

This is an actual authentic grapefruit flavor. It is lightly sweet. This is the zest of the grapefruit, bright, citric, tart and somewhat bitter. I honestly don’t taste a lot of difference between this and the white, so consider them interchangeable in a recipe, though not as a stand-alone flavor. This flavor seems to be weaker than the White Grapefruit. Thin in mouthfeel.

VAPE TRAIN

• Grapefruit

After a 2 week steep, sweetness of this has increased and makes it more of a Ruby Grapefruit. The pleasant grapefruit bitter and tart taste remains although has reduced slightly in intensity bringing this in line with the taste from a Ruby grapefruit, this is still mainly a Grapefruit Juice although there is a slight flesh like hint in the background. I’d use a main 2%-4%, Background 1.5%-3%, Accent 0.5%-1.5%. Standalone 4%-8%.