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I've had the same experience with some mixes.

I have a theory as to why this happens. We're heating up our tanks which does what to the juice in a tank? Heat warms up the juice in the tank. I suspect something happens chemically to the juice in a tank, changing it, as we apply heat via whatever wattage each person uses.

When I test a new mix I always install a new wick and sometimes a new coil. I don't think what we are experiencing has anything to do with wick or coil. My suspicion is it has everything to do with the heat applied to the juice in a tank.

Initially when we vape a new mix juice in the tank has not been heated up. That may give us the "crappy" taste we experience to begin with. As we vape the mix, the juice gets warmer and warmer. Something changes in the juice from the applied heat. The next day it tastes better.

And, the next day our sense of taste automatically adjusts to any changes brought on by changes in our juice from applied heat.

I'm probably nutty (I most certainly am :D) but that's my theory on why we are experiencing this.

Thoughts???

Ideas???

Am I nuts???

That's another reason to squonk.:)
 

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    Morning, mixers, and happy Friday :)

    Not a lot on the agenda for the day. Presidential visit to Seattle pre-empted all local weather, so my guess is as good as the ones we didn't see. So, uh, rain?
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    I've had the same experience with some mixes.

    I have a theory as to why this happens. We're heating up our tanks which does what to the juice in a tank? Heat warms up the juice in the tank. I suspect something happens chemically to the juice in a tank, changing it, as we apply heat via whatever wattage each person uses.

    When I test a new mix I always install a new wick and sometimes a new coil. I don't think what we are experiencing has anything to do with wick or coil. My suspicion is it has everything to do with the heat applied to the juice in a tank.

    Initially when we vape a new mix juice in the tank has not been heated up. That may give us the "crappy" taste we experience to begin with. As we vape the mix, the juice gets warmer and warmer. Something changes in the juice from the applied heat. The next day it tastes better.

    And, the next day our sense of taste automatically adjusts to any changes brought on by changes in our juice from applied heat.

    I am certainly no pro but I suspect there is some truth to this. I have read/heard from many sources that DIYers should NEVER use a tank to test, use a RDA. Perhaps the tank retains the heat, or the heating somehow as you say chemically alters the recipe. Whereas an RDA uses the juice in short order.
     

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    Now I know what to look for. I did not see that the other day.
     

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    I have read/heard from many sources that DIYers should NEVER use a tank to test, use a RDA.
    I would question those sources. Many of the DIY'ers I know recommend testing mixes in the tank or RBA one will be vaping a mix in. That makes sense if you think about it.

    I've always tested my mixes in RDA's first. Once I am satisfied with a mix I will fill an RTA to see how well the mix translates. Dripping, squonking, RTA's and tanks (drop-ins) all offer slightly different vape experiences. From my experience the differences are not huge.

    I use squonkers, RTA's and drip daily. Each sees nearly equal time. :)


    Perhaps the tank retains the heat, or the heating somehow as you say chemically alters the recipe. Whereas an RDA uses the juice in short order.
    I think that pretty much depends on wattage and vaping frequency. It doesn't matter if it's an RDA, a tank or an RTA as each can, and will, get hot.

    If, for example, you vape at high wattage an RDA will get pretty hot and quickly. Likewise if you are vaping at say 20 watts, on an RDA, the frequency of hits will be the determining factor on how hot the RDA gets. Same with tanks and RTA's.

    It all depends. But, I do think it is wise to test mixes as you normally vape and with the gear you usually use. :)
     

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    I don’t care for one of the mixes in a Dvarw but hope it comes out of it. The only new flavor in it is the FA Vanilla Cookie. I think it was the first mix I used it in.

    I actually like the vanilla cookie. I’ve been mixing it with a little cinnamon crunch since I got it.
     

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    That's another reason to squonk.:)
    Well... I do squonk, use RTA's and drip daily. And on occasion I will use a tank with drop-ins. And... I vape MTL (tight to seriously wide open), RDL and DL. I like the full service vaping experience! ;) :D
     

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    I got home and the new fridge was here. The delivery guys had to take the front door off and over extended the storm door so I had to adjust that when I got home. It’s been raining almost every day for a week so I had to go mow tonight since it was warm and no rain today. Holy cow the grass was tall. It kept clogging up the bagging chute. I’m definitely glad to be done with that.
     

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    I got home and the new fridge was here. The delivery guys had to take the front door off and over extended the storm door so I had to adjust that when I got home. It’s been raining almost every day for a week so I had to go mow tonight since it was warm and no rain today. Holy cow the grass was tall. It kept clogging up the bagging chute. I’m definitely glad to be done with that.
    Glad the fridge showed up.
     

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    Well I do not think my tank got over heated today. It tasted pretty bad so there was no chain vaping at all.
    Yeah sure, uh uh. :D

    Hey, did you hear about that new tank? It has an automatic cooling feature to help corral all the heat you 8-12 watt'ers generate.

    Just teasin' ya! Someone has to. ;)
     

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    Yeah sure, uh uh. :D

    Hey, did you hear about that new tank? It has an automatic cooling feature to help corral all the heat you 8-12 watt'ers generate.

    Just teasin' ya! Someone has to. ;)
    There goes the idea of overheated juice.
     

    Chiisaiinu

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    I would question those sources. Many of the DIY'ers I know recommend testing mixes in the tank or RBA one will be vaping a mix in. That makes sense if you think about it.

    I've always tested my mixes in RDA's first. Once I am satisfied with a mix I will fill an RTA to see how well the mix translates. Dripping, squonking, RTA's and tanks (drop-ins) all offer slightly different vape experiences. From my experience the differences are not huge.
    SNIP..

    I think that pretty much depends on wattage and vaping frequency. It doesn't matter if it's an RDA, a tank or an RTA as each can, and will, get hot.
    SNIP.... :)

    I do question sources.. one of those being DIYorDie that seems to be fairly often sourced. That said when I see it over and over and over... it leads me to believe there is merit in their advice. Maybe not but thats my logic. I could definately see ALSO testing(presumably after a steep time) in an RTA, but from what I gather it seems RDA for initial taste.

    I agree that it could very well depend on wattage and frequency. that said my RDA holds 3-5 puffs before its dry as a bone. Most of the tanks I see are 10ml-ish so their is a lot more "heating" going on in 10ml of solution in the 30+(making up numbers here) then the 3-5 on an RDA. Again I am no chemist or a pro.. but its something to consider.
     

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    I do question sources.. one of those being DIYorDie that seems to be fairly often sourced. That said when I see it over and over and over... it leads me to believe there is merit in their advice. Maybe not but thats my logic.
    Wayne at DIYorDie is good people. I've had some excellent conversations with him. He is very knowledgeable. :thumb:

    I think in the end it all comes down to what you prefer best. I mean, there is no right or wrong with what any of us prefer. :)

    We are vapers and we freakin' rock! :headbang:
     

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    Hopefully I can recover the desire to vape this cookie tomorrow.
    Wow! Now you sound like down in the dumps Eeyore.
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    You could give the cookie mix to Rude to try. :p Thinking I would enjoy her take on the cookie mix.
     

    englishmick

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    I've had the same experience with some mixes.

    I have a theory as to why this happens. We're heating up our tanks which does what to the juice in a tank? Heat warms up the juice in the tank. I suspect something happens chemically to the juice in a tank, changing it, as we apply heat via whatever wattage each person uses.

    When I test a new mix I always install a new wick and sometimes a new coil. I don't think what we are experiencing has anything to do with wick or coil. My suspicion is it has everything to do with the heat applied to the juice in a tank.

    Initially when we vape a new mix juice in the tank has not been heated up. That may give us the "crappy" taste we experience to begin with. As we vape the mix, the juice gets warmer and warmer. Something changes in the juice from the applied heat. The next day it tastes better.

    And, the next day our sense of taste automatically adjusts to any changes brought on by changes in our juice from applied heat.

    I'm probably nutty (I most certainly am :D) but that's my theory on why we are experiencing this.

    Thoughts???

    Ideas???

    Am I nuts???

    I read a theory years ago. They say that heat speeds up steeping. I used to put new juice in hot water in a crock pot for a while. They also say juice steeps faster in a small bottle than in a large bottle. So juice being heated up in a small tank is going through a form of accelerated steeping. People used to say that if you put juice that wasn't fully steeped in a tank and vaped it, by the time you finished the tank it would be good and steeped.
     

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