Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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Hey guys, I recently was looking into Chamois's (Sham-wow, german absobent cloths), and I didn't even realize that it's actually non-woven viscose lol.

So that got me thinking about chamois leather, I use leather chamois on my vehicle, and have some extra laying around. The stuff is super durable (like most leather), and really, really absorbent too. Now I'm almost positive the kind I have wouldn't work well because it's probably been treated with a chemical that you don't want to inhale, but there's untreated actual Chamoi leather (poor goats :( ) that's actually much more absorbent than the synthetic stuff.

However I still have alot of researching to do, because I'm sure there's some factor that won't make it suitable for vaping, I only know it's highly absorbent for water, because it's usually used as car dryer's, divers towels, or even a gasoline/mercury filter! It sounds like the stuff might filter out the nicotine molecules from what I'm hearing lol, which would definitely be a hinderance for alot of us, let alone possible dangerous if you filter out a few droppers of nicotine and burn it all at once.

Another factor I'm not sure about is how it might taste, it's tougher than cotton or rayon without a doubt, but that's not to say it won't taste bad if burned accidentally, I've never tasted burning leather, but I'd imagine it doesn't taste good. ;) Something tells me it could possibly be a really decent wick, because if you've ever seen the stuff absorb it's pretty supernatural, I mean you poor some water on it, and it almost falls straight into the chamois. That and it is very durable, have you ever seen leather burn? Some types of leather are actually used for heat applications because they are so tough, I'd imagine it's probably up there with silica.

I'm not sure yet, I'm still looking into it, I may try to find some untreated genuine chamois leather tomorrow (because I can use it for my 96 bronco if anything), and just be a guinea pig :p, I don't know. If anybody knows this won't work beyond a doubt, then I'd surely like to hear it, just "like" this message so I know to come back and read the response. Gonna go vape some leather! :lol:

(btw I know alot of genuine chamois leathers are treated with fish oils, they're available without this, and if not can be cleaned to completely remove.)
 
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Acquired a length of 100% rayon CelluCotton yesterday and wicked up the Stillare built to 0.2 ohm.

I'm sold on all accounts, flavor is clear, and intentionally running it far dryer than I would with cotton resulted in nothing particularly offensive to the vape quality, the set up process is simple enough if not very slightly easier than cotton in my opinion.

Off to purchase a supply of this from our local Sally Beauty Supply.

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I have to say, and I hope this doesn't upset the natives (after all, a lot of this is very subjective to the user), but since I've started using some Japanese cotton pads which finally came in on a long backorder, my rayon hasn't been seeing any use :( Don't get me wrong, I liked it a lot compared to my "organic cotton balls," mainly for ease of use and some perceived increase in flavor, but with these new cotton pads, they are even easier to use than rayon and the flavor tastes very pure from the first hit. I still have a ton of the Rayon so may get back to it at some point, but I'll have two full boxes of different brand Japanese cotton pads to get through first, lol. Sorry if this comes off as a buzzkill but figured it wouldn't hurt to say it.

I should also mention, I am particularly prone to "shiny new toy syndrome" so it may just be that as well :)
 

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Sweetness gone MIA? I've love this stuff, and I do get a lot more flavor and vapor and I am 90% sold on it... but things I noticed is that the Rayon (to me) seem to take some over sweet juices (like that Jolly Rancher taste all watermelons seem to have) away and it gives you great clean pure taste.... but! My sweet tobacco's that should be sweet seem to be lacking sweetness a little more. The odd thing is that it's more noticable in my Kayfun then my IGO-W dripper I use for testing. In my IGO I say it's acceptable. In my Kayfun it's just got an odd taste.

I've been testing it in my IGO-W all morning and it's great... so much so I have to open all the windows in the house and turn off the AC. 8 out of my 10 current juices are just awesome or better with Rayon, My Sweetbacco is still good, just less sweet, and my RY4 in my Kayfun had to be sacrificed in the name of progress and went down the sink.

Anybody else have similar experience?
 

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An added advantage of rayon that I've found is that the flavor change from silica is so dramatic. I use my favorite DIY ADV in CE3s with silica wicks a lot during the day, but when I use that same DIY ADV in a rayon wicked ProTank the flavor change is dramatic! In the silica wicked device it's basically a dry tobacco flavor, but in the rayon wicked device all the component flavors are there making a really nice mix of tobacco, chocolate, caramel, cappuccino and Captain Black. I get to change flavors without actually changing flavors, what a deal!
 

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My thoughts are, I don't want to use that stuff at all.
Just like you genius's with the Japanese cotton. Last time I checked, that country is irradiated.
Someone put a geiger to some Koh Gen Do cotton.

Damn. I better put a Geiger counter to my cars, golf cart and dirtbike too I guess :)
 

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Sweetness gone MIA? I've love this stuff, and I do get a lot more flavor and vapor and I am 90% sold on it... but things I noticed is that the Rayon (to me) seem to take some over sweet juices (like that Jolly Rancher taste all watermelons seem to have) away and it gives you great clean pure taste.... but! My sweet tobacco's that should be sweet seem to be lacking sweetness a little more. The odd thing is that it's more noticable in my Kayfun then my IGO-W dripper I use for testing. In my IGO I say it's acceptable. In my Kayfun it's just got an odd taste.

I've been testing it in my IGO-W all morning and it's great... so much so I have to open all the windows in the house and turn off the AC. 8 out of my 10 current juices are just awesome or better with Rayon, My Sweetbacco is still good, just less sweet, and my RY4 in my Kayfun had to be sacrificed in the name of progress and went down the sink.

Anybody else have similar experience?

Despraci,

Your evaluation in regards to sweetness is the first one I have read the reduced the sweetness. A few pages back in this thread people were claiming that it mad their juices too sweet.

Go Figure... :confused:
 

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Now that rayon has kind of changed which RBA's work better than others, what is an RBA that works really nice with the sally-rayon with no leaks and adjustable airflow and can use a glass tank such as those from IBtanked? - It would be ideal if it is something akin to the Kayfun Lite + v2 except compatible with a glass tank (non threaded)
 

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Now that rayon has kind of changed which RBA's work better than others, what is an RBA that works really nice with the sally-rayon with no leaks and adjustable airflow and can use a glass tank such as those from IBtanked? - It would be ideal if it is something akin to the Kayfun Lite + v2 except compatible with a glass tank (non threaded)

Fogger V4.1...a little on the junky side, but damn, do they work well with rayon!

I've also heard that the UD AGA-T7 works really well with Rayon, and it fits your parameters. But the juice capacity is a little less than the Fogger, so I haven't tried one...yet
 
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Damn. I better put a Geiger counter to my cars, golf cart and dirtbike too I guess :)
Oh, you ingest those things? No doubt.

Stay in denial boys, Using synthetics under those heat loads and ingesting what comes off.

Spin it any way you want...peace of mind is priceless.
 

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Cellulose is cellulose; it doesn't really matter whether it was produced "naturally" by a cotton plant or "synthetically" in a rayon plant.

You are right, it totally doesn't matter if it was made with highly caustic, poly-syllabic chemicals.

Dat river in Egypt tho...have you read that recent reddit thread, sir?
 

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You are right, it totally doesn't matter if it was made with highly caustic, poly-syllabic chemicals.

Dat river in Egypt tho...have you read that recent reddit thread, sir?

I look forward to Jeremy's response.

There are equally devastating posts about issues with cotton. (Ever notice those little brown spots in Koh Gen Do cotton)?

No matter what you're vaping on, it's not good for you.

Side note: what do you think pesticides are? Even organic cotton suffers the effects of chemicals that are very harmful if inhaled. So let's talk about that river in Egypt, sir!

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Just like you genius's with the Japanese cotton. Last time I checked, that country is irradiated.
Someone put a geiger to some Koh Gen Do cotton.

As a matter of fact I did that, just last night with four boxes of KGD.
Nothing beyond normal background using calibrated meters.


I was a bit concerned at first, then I read and learned that I didn't have a complete grasp of what rayon/CC are.
Planning to wick a build this weekend with it.
 
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