Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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cindycated

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Anybody else doing clearo coils with rayon? Most of the posts seem to be rda/RBA stories.

I washed and dried a couple of top coil tank clearos. The rayon and coil are clean but the rayon looks compacted and no longer slides in the coil on one, and feels loose on another. Not sure I want to rewick every time I clean a device.
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Me (Evods). Yes, but I would rather be doing it once a week instead of every other day (with yarn). As soon as I can afford some thicker wire, I'm gonna try some vertical builds, where the rayon is packed around the coil, instead of threaded through it. Then, hopefully, it won't be as finicky.
 

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Hey I had to check this but could only find Tencel in my country. I reckon it's supposed to be "better" rayon.
The material is a bit surprising though : it's not fluffy at all like what I see from the pics here. More like very very fine hair.

Flavor is very good and it seems to wick very very well. Harder to work with than cotton though, as it's non fluffy you'd better put enough in there. What I really want to see with this is the coil and wick longevity before a dry burn, I was at two days max with cotton which was a bit tedious

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Phew that was close, missed it by just one letter.. Nice to know I'm almost a ....., somehow/somewhere, but I'm sure you didn't mean to call me names :)

No, not at all :)

I was just curious. I've seen in Brighton Beach, NY some personal car license plates that use Latin alphabet to make up Russian words on them. Mostly bad words of course.
 

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No, not at all :)

I was just curious. I've seen in Brighton Beach, NY some personal car license plates that use Latin alphabet to make up Russian words on them. Mostly bad words of course.

I worked at IKEA for awhile and they were always changing names of things - a good word in one language kept ending up being something rude or obscene in another. :laugh:
 

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Re-coiled this morning, normal coil. Old coil was completely gunked up and the rayon had mostly disintegrated inside the coil.

Had good 'puff' at both sides of coil, but no rounded 'shoulders'. I may have cut a bit short - tails looked like they're just barely touching the deck. Wicking doesn't seem as good, this time - getting some 'watery' tasting vapes. Playing with power/air adjustments to see if I can improve on things.
 

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i just recoiled and rewiked a fogger and I'm getting a nauseating taste, really really bad, what's the concensus here? too much or too little rayon?

I get a flavor change when I use too much rayon that lasts a while. It's very noticeable. Unless you used very little in your setup, I would try less.
 

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Me (Evods). Yes, but I would rather be doing it once a week instead of every other day (with yarn). As soon as I can afford some thicker wire, I'm gonna try some vertical builds, where the rayon is packed around the coil, instead of threaded through it. Then, hopefully, it won't be as finicky.

I rebuild my T3S's and love the rayon wicking. My coils last longer and the flavor is so much better than the yarn I was using.
 

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Maybe something I am doing. Never used to get that when I was vaping unflavored, I would make cotton wicks last 8+ days and they would still be clean all the way through. 30g kanthal, 1/16 drill bit, 2.1 ohms, taifun gs, vtr @ 4.1-4.3v. In the gs, the wick is basically a reservoir, the feeding is done for me by the ss mesh straws, similar to the flash-e if you used full mesh straws rather than silica with those little pieces of mesh on top.

Yeah not massive power going in. Does it seem to be feeding well from the tank, I've had trouble on the flashi, without mesh.. You could try a little less density on the rayon next time as long as it doesn't lose contact with the coil after a tank. I say that cause your showing some scorching. It's either too tight or not feeding well. I would also need to get some net to see how it does. What net do you use? I need a winner if I'm gonna fork out for it.
 

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And how long, do you thing this box of 500' of CelluCotton 100% Rayon Fibers will lest?
Before something new will come along to replace it..
Not a huge risk, I think we're running out of wick materials to use, especially organic ones..
We went thru cotton, bamboo, linen, jute, hemp, ramie and rayon - not to mention SS mesh, silica, porous ceramic, blue foam and what not :D
Good wick materials do not expire when the next big thing arrives. I'm vaping on ramie right now.
And if they only cost a few bucks, like most organic materials, choice is a good thing to have IMO
 

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Anybody else doing clearo coils with rayon? Most of the posts seem to be RDA/RBA stories.

I washed and dried a couple of top coil tank clearos. The rayon and coil are clean but the rayon looks compacted and no longer slides in the coil on one, and feels loose on another. Not sure I want to rewick every time I clean a device.

Not sure about top coil clearos but I have great success with bottom ones. I have rebuilt all 4 of my evods with 30 ga kanthal around a precision screwdriver at 6 wraps which yields about 1.6 ohms with is good for my vv/vw and stock ego batteries. I also have 3 T3S in the same configuration. I keep the coils loose as I have found that a compressed coil will scorch the wick a little leading to an "off" taste. I even put a evod single coil with the inverted dual coil gasket in my Aerotank and it is vaping the best it ever has. I am not a cloud chucker as I mostly do mouth inhales but I am very satisfied with the flavor/vapor/nic results.

One important thing I must add is to use what seems like too much rayon in the coil. If you use too little it will flood every time and kill the experience. I have also noticed that I must trim the wicks a little closer to the coil base due to the wicks bunching if it comes in contact with the clearo housing while screwing it on causing a little air hole allowing the liquid to leak into the bottom.

As of now I have 4 evods, 2 T3S, and 1 Aerotank in my current rotation and have yet to change the wicks after about two weeks of use. I haven't tried anything for a real long time frame as I tend to change wicks along with flavors when I get to the bottom of a fill-up.

I do have two EVODs that have been in rotation for a while. One with key lime pie and one with peanut butter/chocolate. Both flavors have been through about 4 fills each with no adverse effects on taste or vapor production. Usually with cotton the "lime" would drop off significantly with an old cotton wick after about 2-3 fills.
 
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Yeah not massive power going in. Does it seem to be feeding well from the tank, I've had trouble on the flashi, without mesh.. You could try a little less density on the rayon next time as long as it doesn't lose contact with the coil after a tank. I say that cause your showing some scorching. It's either too tight or not feeding well. I would also need to get some net to see how it does. What net do you use? I need a winner if I'm gonna fork out for it.

I actually tried two more rayon wicks with less and it wasnt holding enough to keep up. Dry hits pretty quick. It sure looks like scorching, but I didnt get a single dry hit with either the cotton or the rayon pics I posted. Im still happy with the rayon though, like I said it performs consistently to the end rather than slowly getting worse and worse like cotton. I make my own NET with pipe tobacco. Super cheap but probably 'dirtier' than the commercial ones.
 

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I just re-coiled and re-wicked the horribly gunked-up (read 'carbonized in the middle') previous installation in my Russian 91%. I may have slightly overstuffed the last one, though it was still chugging along bravely to the end, not producing any foul or burnt tastes that my barbecued (35+ years @ 2+ packs a day) taste buds could detect.

Most likely I ignored warning signs that a more experienced vaper would have heeded & corrected: the remaining e-liquid getting thicker & browner, which suggests that the lighter fractions were boiling off the coil, leaving heavier & heavier fractions behind until the poor wick couldn't wick no' mo'. My faith in rayon is unshaken, but my faith in my own judgment has taken a slight beating.

In other news: Pulling the CC off the end of the coil as JeremyR suggests (rather than snipping off a chunk, then playing with it) seems to work pretty well. Easier than I expected, anyhow. I also made a point of keeping the wick tails fairly straight on their way down to the build deck. In any case I'll be sure to upgrade my maintenance schedule, i.e. from near-zero to some.

I'm awaiting a couple of Taifun GS clones—Canada Post say Thursday; we'll see—because they'll fit in the tank socket of my itaste VTR, and because the design allows you to rebuild without having to tear everything else apart. That's the theory, anyhow.

I'm guessing the Taifuns will be harder to wick than Kayfun clones even if I use cotton, which I won't. Anyone have any experience and/or suggestions to ease the pain? I don't intend to get into SS mesh; this vaping life is getting complicated enough as it is...:D

[ edit: p.s. to AMDTrucking: don't know about the CC, but now I'm wondering where you can buy Kanthal by the mile.;) ]
 
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Yeah not massive power going in. Does it seem to be feeding well from the tank, I've had trouble on the flashi, without mesh.. You could try a little less density on the rayon next time as long as it doesn't lose contact with the coil after a tank. I say that cause your showing some scorching. It's either too tight or not feeding well. I would also need to get some net to see how it does. What net do you use? I need a winner if I'm gonna fork out for it.

Ahlusion makes a couple clean burners. Caramel wild wood and their vanilla wild wood are very good.
 

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I'm awaiting a couple of Taifun GS clones—Canada Post say Thursday; we'll see—because they'll fit in the tank socket of my itaste VTR, and because the design allows you to rebuild without having to tear everything else apart. That's the theory, anyhow.

I'm guessing the Taifuns will be harder to wick than Kayfun clones even if I use cotton, which I won't. Anyone have any experience and/or suggestions to ease the pain? I don't intend to get into SS mesh; this vaping life is getting complicated enough as it is...:D

I can ease future pain by telling you to get some mesh. It is an absolute must for the gs.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lp-new-taifun-gs-fasttech-2.html#post13193669
 
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