Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
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I tried adding some saline, 1%, to my DIY mixes. All it did for me was make them salty, and yes I used medical grade, sterile, saline. I don't use salt, I like the taste of foods in their natural state, for the most part and am therefor much more sensitive to salty tastes. Now I've got a 500ml bottle of formerly sterile saline, missing a few drops, taking up space on my desk.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a post for this yet, but this stuff has been popping up like wildfire in my area and it seems to resemble CCR in every aspect, rebranded to some mythical creature and sold as cotton to the "elitists". Any ideas?
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Splenda/ Sucralose is chlorinated sugar. I would never intentionally vape it. It does effect glucose levels. Doctors telling people to drink diet soda doesn't really help. Artificial sweetners also have a whole slew of well documented major side effects for people. Some of these side effects have been reported by vapors..
Xylitol is a safe alternative that has very healthful effects on the body.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a post for this yet, but this stuff has been popping up like wildfire in my area and it seems to resemble CCR in every aspect, rebranded to some mythical creature and sold as cotton to the "elitists". Any ideas?
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That's hilarious!! Wonder how much is in that $6 bag.... I might have to buy some just for the novelty aspect! LOL
I'm surprised there hasn't been a post for this yet, but this stuff has been popping up like wildfire in my area and it seems to resemble CCR in every aspect, rebranded to some mythical creature and sold as cotton to the "elitists". Any ideas?
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It is most likely repackaged rayon. If it's Sally's that's even worse . If I was more greedy, or smarter, or really had the money to start it; I would have patented it and sold it like that. I probably wouldn't be working a day job right now.
I'm still considering sourcing the primo rayon and packaging it for retail. But the price at the pump is so small it would take thousands of packages and money to get it going.
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How long do you guys last on a tank with rayon? I have some of those dela something balls lol, can't remember the exact name. Pure rayon. And for example in my Erlkonigin, some darker juice lines start coming out of the juice holes around half of the second tank in. Could be gunk from the coil and not from the fiber itself but still.
Typically in my Erl I get about 2 tanks before needing a dry burn. The rayon's fine but the coil is just too gunked up to continue. And yeah, I sometimes get the darkened fluid flowing back into the tank from the weep holes about halfway through the second tanks as well.
100ml in the flashi. 100vg tobacco juice. I don't know why you guys are concerned with back flow. With cotton it just sits in the cotton and coil. It's still there. Rayon is free flowing. Tail density adjustments may help. If the tails not thinned it will back flow like I was talking about yesterday. The main coil wick needs to be the thickest part. Thicker than the tails to keep flow going that way.
I don't know anything about the erl will have to check it out to see if I can help more .
Ok checked it out. Big juice channels but don't let that scare you from thinning the tails. May need a larger diameter coil so the coil wick can be thicker than the tails. Not sure.
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Quick repost from my original trials with rayon.
Here- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ost10858463.html?highlight=Flash#post10858463
Here- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ost10858463.html?highlight=Flash#post10858463
The rayon won't flash because its damp plus its a very small amount. I have dry burned it and it reacted like cotton.
I haven't read anything before about the use of the loose rayon fibers I've been trying.. In fact a forum search turned up nothing on the term rayon. only thing I found is the viscous bamboo known as Lydia's #10. Which is actually rayon unbeknown to most people. (Most likely not bamboo anyway) google .gov viscous bamboo / bamboo rayon.
The rayon seems to be less touchy on the thickness used. This may be easier for some than cotton. It tastes similar to cotton when it dry hits. Which if wicked right is rare because of its higher capillary action compared to cotton. Google hydroponic information on it. It will naturally wick higher than cotton by 4-5 inches I believe.
Here's a pic of rayon vs cotton after 4 days about 20ml of same juice 90%vg
Rayon
Cotton
As always ymmv
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Thanks Jeremy. In the Erl, you need big puffy shoulders and a very thin tail, so it should be fine. Although the shoulders will definitely be bigger than the wick in the coil itself.
What about coil gunk, I'm on my 3rd day and just noticed some tiny black dots in my juice, which I believe is gunk that the coil is spewing out :/ no tobacco juice, red astaire (cherries and menthol etc)
My tails are super thin going down the channels of my Erl. I'm talking like 15 strands maybe. It wicks perfectly. I don't know why I worry about the back flow either but I guess I am just OCD with it.
Specks of gunk will pop off. These typically don't affect the vape. When the coils running dry for one reason or another gunk may start to form; then when it's fully saturated with wetness will pop off any gunk that started. It is a sign that your running a little dry at times. May be a little too tight in the coil or it's not wicking through the channels effectively at all times. - Thinner tails in the channels. If your using Sally's it's not as tolerant to having big shoulders *after break in. Delasos is a heavier fiber with more of a crimp in the fiber which doesn't compress as much as Sally's. It will show a bigger shoulder because it's so expansive.
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I know, that wasn't the most effective argument enhancer but it was late and it was all I could think of at the time.
Delasos is what I have. I thought it was the same as every other rayon. So the "more is more", sort of, law of rayon doesn't apply as much here?
Just enough to keep contact with the inside of the coil is more. I will post a pic of my latest recoil with delascos rayon balls later tonight.
You can go too much with rayon. It still can work at high density but not as good as just the right amount. Too tight could be squeezing the juice back out more after the vape. It kinda works on an ebb and flow.
You can go too much with rayon. It still can work at high density but not as good as just the right amount. Too tight could be squeezing the juice back out more after the vape. It kinda works on an ebb and flow.
Maybe just a little more in the tail. It could be dark condensate dropping to the deck and getting out the channels because it's a watery consistency it can back flow easier.. You'll have to be the judge of that I don't have one.
I keep my glycerin in restaurant size ketchup/mustard squeezable plastic old style bottles. After I added the right amount of PG, Nicotine and Flavoring, using syringe of course, I simply fill the rest of my juice bottles with VG right from the ketchup bottle until full.
Have you guys tried setting the tails on top of the juice channels, not down into but just on top? I found that works best in my fogger, I thin and trim to fine tails so they'll set on top of the channels, wet them and push them up against the sides of the posts so they are out of the way while I screw the chimney body on. Then I use a fine needle and slide the tail over to the channel. I don't poke them at all and don't worry if there is a tiny gap showing the channel. I just guide the tails to the channels and leave them alone, the fibers will spread out and find their "rooting" spots after some use. Sometimes I have found a few fibers had worked their way into the channels on their own. I haven't had any flooding and I use more of a PG to VG ratio.
I used to mix automotive touch-up paints and that required accuracy for everything and a gram scale. It's stuck with me and now I mix my liquids the same way.
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