Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
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I'm still getting gunking on my coils, even with changing up the wicking (trying a little more, trying a little less, etc), so I'm now changing up the coils themselves.
I've always run micro-coils, so now I'm trying out a standard spiral/spaced coil. My liquids are either NETs or dessert flavors, which seem to have artificial sweeteners in them, hence the high gunk factors. I have 2 fresh builds, and haven't had time to judge gunking. But the flavor is... different that micro-coils, which I'm liking.
I've also tried the rayon in a dripper... and I am quite impressed. My Plume Veil clone never performed better, in fact.
I've always run micro-coils, so now I'm trying out a standard spiral/spaced coil. My liquids are either NETs or dessert flavors, which seem to have artificial sweeteners in them, hence the high gunk factors. I have 2 fresh builds, and haven't had time to judge gunking. But the flavor is... different that micro-coils, which I'm liking.
I've also tried the rayon in a dripper... and I am quite impressed. My Plume Veil clone never performed better, in fact.
Gunkers are gunkers IMO. Doesn't matter what you do to me. My wife got a new smores that must have sugar in it because I have to dry burn it more often than I use to. I just pull and toss the wick, burn, brush with an old toothbrush, rewick.
Yeah, I also experienced a noticeably different yet hard to describe flavor/feel when going from contact micros to spaced. I wasn't a fan of that change at first, but I was impressed enough with the increased run-time to stick with it. Adjusted to the difference fairly quickly. Gunkers still gunk, but the build stays vapeable for much longer.
That's what I'm hoping for
I recall the posting on your findings with the spaced coils. And you haven't led me wrong yet.
I checked in to see what the rayon gang is up to and it seems to be about drill presses and cobalt bits these days.
As for the Rose; like the Kayfun, for me it works pretty much the way it is, and adding airflow does seem to take away flavor a bit. One technique I use (as I do lung hits only) is to "sliptream" where you let in a bit of air next to the drip tip.
Even with the Kayfun V4, I bought the s4 kit, but then never installed it and even choked the standard airflow a bit to get that full-on flavor.
These days I'm more than ever concentrating on wicking. The DNA40 (despite all the frustrations that come with it) is a perfect learning/test tool to see how well your setup is actually wicking. Once I got it right I now vape at 18W with a 400°F temp limit without going into TP warnings. That is now my standard for judging my coil/wick setup, and again, it objectively speaks for rayon's ability to provide enough juice for 8-10 second hits. KGD is a close second (I keep experimenting) but in the end rayon just seems to still work best for me.
As for the Rose; like the Kayfun, for me it works pretty much the way it is, and adding airflow does seem to take away flavor a bit. One technique I use (as I do lung hits only) is to "sliptream" where you let in a bit of air next to the drip tip.
Even with the Kayfun V4, I bought the s4 kit, but then never installed it and even choked the standard airflow a bit to get that full-on flavor.
These days I'm more than ever concentrating on wicking. The DNA40 (despite all the frustrations that come with it) is a perfect learning/test tool to see how well your setup is actually wicking. Once I got it right I now vape at 18W with a 400°F temp limit without going into TP warnings. That is now my standard for judging my coil/wick setup, and again, it objectively speaks for rayon's ability to provide enough juice for 8-10 second hits. KGD is a close second (I keep experimenting) but in the end rayon just seems to still work best for me.
QFT
If you're currently not wicking properly or think you are, the DNA40 will immediately tell you whether or not you actually are.
It's been a while!
Tbev, I'm stoked that you're back - still got my Fogger's, buddy, but they don't see much use nowadays
Just wanted to pop in and congratulate everyone - I think we got our own subforum! I know it's technically Wick and Wire, but we all know rayon wick rules the roost
Still living the easy vape life, rewicking a dripper about once a week. I think I'm using too little rayon, as it's a perfectly clean first vape, then after a few days, plagued by the burn when using a fresh battery (around 55 watts).
Actually, I may just rewick now and fight the urge to use as little as I normally do, I'm not happy to only be in the 40ml club!
Tbev, I'm stoked that you're back - still got my Fogger's, buddy, but they don't see much use nowadays
Just wanted to pop in and congratulate everyone - I think we got our own subforum! I know it's technically Wick and Wire, but we all know rayon wick rules the roost
Still living the easy vape life, rewicking a dripper about once a week. I think I'm using too little rayon, as it's a perfectly clean first vape, then after a few days, plagued by the burn when using a fresh battery (around 55 watts).
Actually, I may just rewick now and fight the urge to use as little as I normally do, I'm not happy to only be in the 40ml club!
exactly my findings too. I'm getting double the amount of quality vape with a spaced coil compared to a contact coil. I also use a lot of darker/sweeter juices - some major coil gunkers.
As I've been told - micro coils are so 2014
I checked in to see what the rayon gang is up to and it seems to be about drill presses and cobalt bits these days.
As for the Rose; like the Kayfun, for me it works pretty much the way it is, and adding airflow does seem to take away flavor a bit. One technique I use (as I do lung hits only) is to "sliptream" where you let in a bit of air next to the drip tip.
Even with the Kayfun V4, I bought the s4 kit, but then never installed it and even choked the standard airflow a bit to get that full-on flavor.
These days I'm more than ever concentrating on wicking. The DNA40 (despite all the frustrations that come with it) is a perfect learning/test tool to see how well your setup is actually wicking. Once I got it right I now vape at 18W with a 400°F temp limit without going into TP warnings. That is now my standard for judging my coil/wick setup, and again, it objectively speaks for rayon's ability to provide enough juice for 8-10 second hits. KGD is a close second (I keep experimenting) but in the end rayon just seems to still work best for me.
Well I built the Rose yesterday for the first time since I drilled it out, I can't call the flavor a loss yet. I had carefully removed the coil and wick so I could put it back in for a true comparison once I drilled it out but I accidentally tossed the coil.
While I can wick the same way I can't recall for sure what size wire I used, the I.D. or number of coils. With this new coil and wick, only the second build on this Rose, the flavor is close but not quite as intense as it was with the first coil, but I can't say it's not because of my build. Damn it, damn it, damn it.... 
Willy, I've started keeping a log of my builds. Sort of OCD, I know, but it is handy if I want to duplicate a particular build. The big problem is having four of the same device and telling them apart, LOL.
Yes your right, I decided yesterday I better start doing that, my memory just isn't what it use to be. I've heard fish oil supplement pills helps with memory, I guess it's time, I'll get some on my next trip uptown. When I was in my early twenty's, one day a nice old gentleman who was a regular came to our shop for his auto repairs, he was eyeballing this chick I use to chase when she came in the shop with her ta ta's half hanging out. She was leaning over the fender, talking to me while I was working his car, we both were getting an eye full and she loved the teasing. After she left I took him a cup of coffee while he waited, with a grin he asked me about the girl. He went on to tell me to enjoy my youth, "one day you'll wake up and you'll be old". He said "the worst part of getting old is having the mind of a young man while being trapped in an old man's body and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it."
I don't know, Willy, I take so much fish oil I'm sprouting gills....now what was I saying?
Thanks for cheering me up guys!
On a side note, I've been vaping the Rose the last half hour and I gotta say, if I did hurt the flavor and it's now the best it will be, I'll be happy with the trade off of having the better air flow and the slight flavor reduction. Or as my buddy use to say, "If I'm happy, I'm happy."
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I just tried rayon for the first time, after using silica for the past three years and all I can say is WOW! I grabbed a 3 lb. box of CelluCotton #44043 and I couldn't be happier!
I love it... another happy customer. And oh by the way I have come to believe that almost anything is better than "Silica".
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