Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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The FEV thread has been active lately as we got some more people to try it.. Everyone that gets it working correctly loves it.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rta/504579-flash-e-vapor-v2-rba-artur-schwarze.html

Indeed. :D

I love my FeV. It's my most favoritest atty now, surpassing my beloved Erlkonigins.

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I've read a lot of this long thread.

I ordered, recieved and have been building my wicks with tencel. I agree the flavor is cleaner than with anything else I've tried but JEEZ it's hard to get it in the coil! I'm pretty new at building (about 5 months) and hoping there is a trick?

I'm using a Lemo, 28 gage, 8/9 wraps on a Provari. I'm using a (pretty big 2-3 mm) screw driver to wrap.

It's so difficult for me to get enough tencel in the coil for it to stay put while I trim it. Just getting the tencel through the coil is a task I'm fustrated with. I've started holding one side down to trim the other but it still slips around on me!

Help appreciated!

Apigdoc has the most experience with using tencel.

The vast majority of us use standard rayon, in cellucotton rayon, rayon balls, or pharmaceutical rayon filler... The sources were found around post 300-600...

Regular rayon, pharmaceutical, is the original kind.... Tencel was a trial product while looking for a source of rayon other than medicine bottles..
 
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I've read a lot of this long thread.


I ordered, recieved and have been building my wicks with tencel. I agree the flavor is cleaner than with anything else I've tried but JEEZ it's hard to get it in the coil! I'm pretty new at building (about 5 months) and hoping there is a trick?

Hi Holly, I have a method that works well, and use the Tencel in my Rose. It's tricky to wick a Rose with the coil in the cup, so I take the Tencel and tie a thread to the middle of a bunch, fold it in half where tied (making the amount therefore doubled), put the thread through the coil and pull through. This leaves nice, straight filaments--and easily divides into the juice channels in the cup. It works so well, I make the wicks up ahead of time and store in small plastic tubes with the retaining thread exposed. Hope it helps!

I have a length of kanthal in a "U" shape that I use like a sewing needle threader, but basically the same method as abpigdoc.
 

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My KFL is the Undead version by KayFunMods who drilled out the center post and two more airflow holes in the sides. You can look right through the base with the center pin lined up so there is quite a bit of air flow over the draw on my 3.1.

I build 2.4mm 28g micro coils for it around 1.4 ohms, even at 12.5W they do end up with a burnt taste after a short while on a 50/50 juice.
So I should try larger coils as well with a spaced build and see how it works out. I was getting a lot of popping with any spaced coils I have used in it before and I didn't care much for that, so I must have been building or wicking them wrong.

I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think the older KF's are a little restrictive air and juice wise. I would have to rewick every tank if I did 12-13W. My current build is 3.2mm 28 ga @ 1.6 ohms. I am at 9 watts and can usually do 15mL until flavor drops off. Sometimes more and sometimes less. A lot of my juice if VG heavy so I can't really crank up the watts in fear of a dry hit. Oddly enough it recovers just fine after a dry hit, but I still don't like the experience.

IMO a larger coil doesn't get too hot to foul the coil/wick as quickly as a smaller one would. Smaller coils need more air and juice to stay out of the danger zone as they concentrate the heat in a smaller area. Spacing the coils is also a good idea as the coil cools very quickly. Some like it and some don't. I dabble between spaced and non-spaced and honestly non-spaced produce more vapor per watt, but at a cost of lessened total vape time without a dry burn and rewick.
 

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I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think the older KF's are a little restrictive air and juice wise. I would have to rewick every tank if I did 12-13W. My current build is 3.2mm 28 ga @ 1.6 ohms. I am at 9 watts and can usually do 15mL until flavor drops off. Sometimes more and sometimes less. A lot of my juice if VG heavy so I can't really crank up the watts in fear of a dry hit. Oddly enough it recovers just fine after a dry hit, but I still don't like the experience.

IMO a larger coil doesn't get too hot to foul the coil/wick as quickly as a smaller one would. Smaller coils need more air and juice to stay out of the danger zone as they concentrate the heat in a smaller area. Spacing the coils is also a good idea as the coil cools very quickly. Some like it and some don't. I dabble between spaced and non-spaced and honestly non-spaced produce more vapor per watt, but at a cost of lessened total vape time without a dry burn and rewick.
Thanks atroph,
I am going to try a bigger diameter spaced coil tonight when my tank is empty.
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Well I did a new build on the KF Undead, 28g spaced from a 3.5mm screw 1.5Ω, wicked and trimmed.

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It works, but I do get that totally annoying popping of juice with the first vape after it sits.
It is possible that I have the Rayon to tight which is causing the popping?

Tried this at 10W's and it is just not for me, it reminds me of the Nautilus/Genitank days at that power level. I have really been really spoiled by the Origen V2, massive flavor and great vapor production, but it is quite the juice hog. I can just imagine what the Genesis will be like when it arrives... :D
 

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One thing I did do today that turned out quite excellent, was to cut two grooves in the Kayfun posts. No more wrapping the wire around the screw, just pull it tight half way around and the wire gets captured under the screw in the groove. These grooves should have been a factory implementation IMHO.
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Excellent, Troll...Excellent......!!!
 
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