Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[TrollDragon]

Those prewelded wires from FT are cheap, the only thing that concerns me about them is the resistance wire is black, and has a sort of rough feel to them- not glassy smooth like Kanthal or NiCr wire that we usually buy. And there have been reports from users of those premade wires of off tastes, sore throats and other allergic-type symptoms. Now, I don't put a lot of stock in such things but just the same, there's some peace of mind in making them yourself, and knowing exactly what went into them.

Silicone insulators are overpriced IMO. That said, silicone insulators like the original Kanger-type (and presumably the ones from LV) do hold up better to heat than the cheaper rubber ones in my experience, but they're still not immune to scorching from a hot leg. But you can use any insulator- even the cheap rubber ones- if you also use NR-R-NR wire for the coils.

A friend of mine picked up a variety of the FT premade coils. They are indeed black and appear to be made from Nichrome instead of Kanthal, which does cause trouble for anyone with a nickle allergy. I have used my friends coils in the past without any issues, taste or ill feelings. The problem was he ordered coils that had either a 1.5mm or 4mm ID, as he didn't quite know what the Depth measurement in the description referred to.

It was just a suggestion and for $2 if you don't like them, bin them. I suspect that half the welds might not be good, but they are just cheap Chinese coils...

 

[JeremyR]

Here I am reporting back about my experience with the tidi balls I just got a couple of days ago (10-balls bags from atmistique.gr, see a few posts back):
I've already been using rayon in the past, and it should have been of the "big sally box" breed (at least that's what the vendor said) and I was quite satisfied but not that much over KGD.
Now I have to say these tidi balls seem to make a difference.
I don't know if it was a sort of "first-time luck", but I went rebuilding a subtank stock OCC coil with nickel (to use on my vaporshark dna40) and the results are for now amazing!
The coil was already a nickel one, bought together with the VS dna40, but I was never able to vape at more than 15W (I prefer keeping temperature at 400-410F).
So I decided to rebuild the coil (seen a couple of yt vids and it seemed quite easy) from scratch and put my new tidi balls rayon in it.
I did an 8 wrap, 3mm I.D., spaced coil with 28ga NI200, coming out at abot 0.2 ohms (a bit on the high side, but I think it's due to the long legs).
Took particular care in ensuring the legs are firmly captured by the insulator and filled as much as I could with rayon.
Ejuice is around 70VG.
I'm now vaping at 19W and temperature keeps hovering around 390F, nice and steady bubbles coming from the coil feeding holes and flavour is clear as crystal glass.
I also did let the VS do its refinement and resistance seems quite solid, didn't change at all after about a 30 minutes rest.
What to say?
I'm really happy, thanks for making me curious about this.

Andrea.

In light of all these reports, and my preference list did always have Sally's at the bottom... But maybe I popo'ed the amount of difference. May not be as slight as I lead on....

But I know when I go to wick Sally's is my last choice with pharmaceutical and balls being better.

It has been said many times though. ..heck rossum gave all his Sally's away when he got the tidi balls

 

[cobalt327]

I'll just have to settle on the order-of-magnitude-better difference between Sallys and silica or cotton, 'cause I'm not chasing another possible 5%-10% improvement (or is it the placebo effect?) by using a different material. Not necessarily doubting anyone's observations but this is all so subjective and besides I'm just stubborn that way.

 

[JeremyR]

It is better, just saying, maybe after a year with Sally's you'll feel you got your moneys worth and go ahead and try the better grades.

 

[HolmanGT]

Where's Holman?

I ain't sayin nuttin this time.

OK - Mr. Willy what did I miss out on this time.

 

[HolmanGT]

Last time I heard from him he was chucking happily on his brand new sx mini m class and building HUGE coils to fit a hand full of rayon at a time

He should appear soon enough

Regards
Tony

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He is Nic Sick !!!

I discovered that if I added a piece of surgical tubing to my Atty I could watch the Display on my SXmini while using it.

What I didn't notice until too late is I was chain puffing "Lung Hits" while being fascinated by the displayed numbers and temperature limiting that I had taken in enough Nic to kill an Elephant and was so dizzy I couldn't read the SX screen because it was spinning around and around. Excuse me I think I need to visit the PorcelainThrown.

 

[awsum140]

I'll try Tidi or Delasco when I start getting low on Sally's. That should be around 2050 or so unless I manage to give even more away than I currently do.

 

[SlickWilly]

OK - Mr. Willy what did I miss out on this time.

This one http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vor-saturation-nic-hit-1215.html#post15601716

 

[HolmanGT]

This one http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vor-saturation-nic-hit-1215.html#post15601716

Oh-no I am not going near "Tidi German and American Junk". Now way, nada, Young Will Robinson...

 

[tchavei]

Hi guys.

I just was by the supermarket and went through the ENTIRE tampon section. I had to stop after 20 minutes and my wife calling me a pervert in the middle of the store but I bought a pack of ob super plus.

They had like 8 different types but I thought that the super plus ones which are super absorbent had greater chances of having pure rayon in it than the standard ones.

Not one single box said what the composition of the tampon is on the outside. That's pretty stupid.

Now all I need is get the kids and wife in bed to have a moment of peace to unwrap a tampon and check it out.



Holman: you've got mail

Regards
Tony

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[Woofer]

Smokin anti freeze on a tampon, should be a great conversation starter at parties and such.

 

[JeremyR]

I guess its only regulated in the US.... That's the issue, there is no labeling in Europe. The DM viscose balls or equvilant sound like the way to go. As we cant even find balls at the sores here in the states.

I would think the smaller they are the better chance also. I looked at a cotton blend and it was twice as big as the full rayon. You can use less rayon fiber in comparison to cotton.

But yeah well see what you got. Lol

 

[tchavei]

I guess its only regulated in the US.... That's the issue, there is no labeling in Europe. The DM viscose balls or equvilant sound like the way to go. As we cant even find balls at the sores here in the states.

I would think the smaller they are the better chance also. I looked at a cotton blend and it was twice as big as the full rayon. You can use less rayon fiber in comparison to cotton.

But yeah well see what you got. Lol

Maybe in the inside... Going to open the box... BRB

Regards
Tony

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[SlickWilly]

Check their American website, I'm sure they list there those that are made of rayon.

 

[JimmyDB]

Check their American website, I'm sure they list there those that are made of rayon.

Yeah, but it may not be the same product used/sold overseas On the Kotex pack I have, I think it only mentioned Rayon on the bottom... and now I have forgotten which of the atty's has Kotex in it :/

 

[tchavei]

Ok. The instructions explain quite well how to use a tampon and alerts about the toxic shock syndrome but no reference to the composition.

The tampon is quite small (smaller than my thumb) but after you remove that silk around it and unroll it.... OMG...

I have a sheet bigger than both my hands lol.

It feels like rayon and squeaks also. Doesn't feel at all like cotton but how can I be sure it's pure rayon?

Is there any test one can make?

Thx

Regards
Tony

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[Woofer]

Burn and inspect the ash

 

[JeremyR]

Sounds like you got the same kind of thing I did which is probably 100% rayon.

So did it look like the photos I posted.

As woofer mentioned burn test... You would need only a very small amount. Light it, observe the burn and smell, & ash, Should burn quiclky & completely, be light gray ash that blows away. Make sure you smell no off odors in the smoke. Just paper mostly, maybe a little wood/leaves.

Ideally you would have another rayon or cotton to burn also to compare the qualities of the burn test.

 

[cindycated]

Sounds like you got the same kind of thing I did which is probably 100% rayon.

So did it look like the photos I posted.

As woofer mentioned burn test... You would need only a very small amount. Light it, observe the burn and smell, & ash, Should burn quiclky & completely, be light gray ash that blows away. Make sure you smell no off odors in the smoke. Just paper/wood/leaves.

Ideally you would have another rayon or cotton to burn also to compare the qualities of the burn test.

The smell too. Should smell like burning paper. Didn't someone post tech specs for O.B. a few pages back?

Edit: Here we go: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/wick-wire/561226-rayon-wick-better-flow-flavor-saturation-nic-hit-1197.html#post15572382

 

[JeremyR]

Geez tony I thought you were already set with all the other varieties you had. Lol just couldn't resist the temptation huh.