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[Cuando]

I understand the eyerolling and facepalming over people voicing concerns, and while I do find it funny for vapers who once smoked to be so skeptical and worried after years of doing one of the worst things you can do to your body, it's still something to look into. To be free of cigarettes is amazing and, for me, a miracle. I am not overly worried about the CC, myself, I have been using it exclusively since I got mine. I have been running it in two Storms, a Magma, an IGO-W, and an RSST and it's performing wonderfully in each. The only concern I have is that I am flying through juice, and I am cresting Mt. Over-Nic even with 3mg.

I am a huge fan of this stuff, and where my concern lies is in how to inform others that this stuff is not going to make them grow fingers on their face or cough up their internal organs. I have every intention of spreading the holy word on CC, and have been doing so, I just want to have some insight to share on it's safety, as I already am fully aware of it's magical wicking properties.

Now excuse me, I gotta go tend to my chicks.

 

[brianc11111]

I understand the eyerolling and facepalming over people voicing concerns, and while I do find it funny for vapers who once smoked to be so skeptical and worried after years of doing one of the worst things you can do to your body, it's still something to look into. To be free of cigarettes is amazing and, for me, a miracle. I am not overly worried about the CC, myself, I have been using it exclusively since I got mine. I have been running it in two Storms, a Magma, an IGO-W, and an RSST and it's performing wonderfully in each. The only concern I have is that I am flying through juice, and I am cresting Mt. Over-Nic even with 3mg.

I am a huge fan of this stuff, and where my concern lies is in how to inform others that this stuff is not going to make them grow fingers on their face or cough up their internal organs. I have every intention of spreading the holy word on CC, and have been doing so, I just want to have some insight to share on it's safety, as I already am fully aware of it's magical wicking properties.

Now excuse me, I gotta go tend to my chicks.

you gigolo you!!!!

 

[doots]

So far in my devices and especially my Reo and Kayfuns, It is performing better than my previous used Koh Gen Cotton. Easy to thread and cut,, All around I am very impressed so far.. Better taste to my juice. Very clean. Gets better after a short break in, Imo.. I was shocked at the size of the box it came in.. lol enough probably for a lifetime and then some. I can really tell a difference in my Kayfuns.. If you use a Kayfun, Get some of this. Wicks well and no gurgle or dry hits.. Great absorption properties..

 

[JeremyR]

Most all rayon is oeko tex certified free from harmful chemicals.

From oeko

"After the brouhaha about bamboo viscose hit the press, many people did a quick scan of viscose and declared it “unsafe” for the environment. The reason the viscose process is thought to be detrimental to the environment is based on the process chemicals used.

Though sodium hydroxide is routinely used in the processing of organic cotton, and is approved by the Global Organic Textile Standard (GOTS), carbon disulfide can cause nervous system damage with chronic exposure.*(add - in manufacturing) And that “chemical bath” to harden the threads? Sulfuric acid.

But these chemicals do not remain as a residue on the fibers – the proof of this is that almost all of the viscose produced can be (and often is) Oeko Tex certified (which certifies that the finished fiber has been tested for any chemicals which may be harmful to a person’s health and contains no trace of these chemicals.)"

Oeko-Tex | O ECOTEXTILES

*Yes sodium hydroxide is used in processing even organic cotton. Thats caustic soda or lye. *

 

[WharfRat1976]

I do not even wear rayon- let alone vape it

 

[VenusianSky]

10" x 10 1/2" x 17 1/4"

Cool. Thanks. I don't know what is up with the 3" depth on FedEx tracking.

 

[JeremyR]

Cuando you realize the huge educational process this would entail I'm sure. At some point when someone hears anything about a chemical they will shy away..

But again those out there look into how is your nic extracted... It doesn't just fall off a plant. There are many chemicals even petrochemicals used to extract the nicotine.

 

[JeremyR]

I do not even wear rayon- let alone vape it

Good to hear. We are all adults here. Free to experiment.

I have essentially never burned the rayon in a coil. If you do it tastes like cotton/paper. You know kinda like cigarette paper.

Did you ever look into how silica wick was made?

 

[hobbes4]

Big thanks to AmandaD for sending me some Sally's Rayon to try.

Last night i had some time to play with it, re-wicked KFL+, GP Heron, Quasar (single coil), TOBH (dual coil), Magma (single coil). I think i got the Magma perfect. After some break in the wick shows slight shoulders on the ends of coil and preforms outstanding...wicked the Magma juice wells completely dry. Unfortunately, everything else i wicked ended up shrinking too much and i could see the wick not making full contact with the coil. By this time i had to put everything down due to the nic high.

So far, i'm sold...just need to figure out how to replicate the density i used on the Magma.

 

[Kataphraktos]

Folks poking fun at those who care about the safety of this or any other wicking material:

Just because someone spent twenty years hanging out in a frying pan, doesn't mean they should gleefully and ignorantly toss themselves into a fire. Not giving a damn got us into this mess. Giving a damn got us out. Giving a damn isn't something you do once, then move on, it is a new way of thinking about yourself and your habits.

So, yes, my instinct tells me the worst version of the story of what this or any wicking material will do to us is a million times better than sucking on an analog. But that doesn't mean we should just stop caring about or discussing what the potential harm is here. If we're going to reside under the mantra of "harm reduction", we need to be able, within reason, to quantify that reduction. Or we can wait for the FDA to do it for us. We all know how that will turn out.

I'm not trying to rain on our Lyocell/Rayon/CC parade. When did empirical evidence and the scientific method become so déclassé in America?

 

[Cuando]

Oh, I do, don't get me wrong, JermeyR. Since I posed my question there has been enough info put forward I can hopefully ease the minds of anyone overly concerned about the CC, should they even ask. Helps me breathe easier, too, pun fully intended.

 

[RSZ1]

What are the approx dimensions on that box. I have a box of the same (44043) on its way, but the fedex tracking says the dimensions are 10x10x3" which didn't sound right. The weight sounds right though (3.6lbs).

Roughly 10"x10"x17"

 

[tnt56]

Ok I'm sold. Gonna some. If it's good enough for the medical field. It's good enough for me.
That's the only reason I've stayed with sterile cotton.

Been bandaged a lot. If the docs and EMT's use it. I trust it.

Thanks all for easing my feeble brain.


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[Jeffk123]

Thanks for this thread guys when I get paid I am picking up a box of this "tencel" this stuff sounds safer than potentially inhaling silica or cotton fibers. The science seems sounds cant wait for it. Thanks again for all the scientific links and studies this was well done.

 

[Tbev]

Tencel sucks alpaca nuts, get the Sally's stupid.

That's my new catch phrase " Get the Sally's stupid."

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[Cuando]

Tencel works ... but CC is way better. I keep wanting to post a link to that old Gucci Crew song 'Sally', but I also like not being banned from ECF.

 

[JeremyR]

There's are many more posts in here about the safety concerns. The thread is running so fast that it's hard to keep the info in view. I'm thinking just putting a lot of it in a blog that way it will always be right there.

I am not the end all be all, I have no gas spectrum analyzer equipment. I only use deductive reasoning and research to extrapolate data to come up with my grounded opinion.

The amount of data is a lot to put together and in a way that is understandable to everyone easily. It will be comming.

This put it this way the end product of the final chemical reaction produces nearly pure cellulose except for some salts.


Rayon fiber = Cellulose OH + Na2 So4

So the pure cellulose atom has a sodium sulfate bond attached to it, sodium sulfate is an inorganic salt used in many products like soaps. Look on and soap bottle it has a sodium sulfate of one type or another . Most common sodium laurel sulfate, to genericize it.lol

At any rate te wick imparts no bad taste to the juice.

Realize when a chemical reaction occurs it changes the chemical make up of the product.

 

[bsoplinger]

Tencel sucks alpaca nuts, get the Sally's stupid.

That's my new catch phrase " Get the Sally's stupid."

There go the profits from mom's alpaca farm

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[Jeffk123]

Well ill try cc then you said you can get this at sallys beauty supply? I work right next to one

 

[JeremyR]

If your worried about "a residue that likely doesn't exist in a dangerous form..... Boil a batch don't stir fibers to break them up, strainer on top flood the pot over with water for a while, dry it. It drys fast, not likely to grow bacteria if you set on a towel by a fan because it drys fast.