Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[Lbox88]

Yes sorry, was posting in frustration while under the spell of a turkey coma. Working with vertical micro coil in RSST, I've had one wick last me a day and a half, all the rest I've made last me maybe half a day if that. I try to just use enough that I can still roll it up a little and poke it down in. I can wick fine with either organic cotton or KGD, just can't seem to get it quite right with this stuff.

 

[Aal_]

Yes sorry, was posting in frustration while under the spell of a turkey coma. Working with vertical micro coil in RSST, I've had one wick last me a day and a half, all the rest I've made last me maybe half a day if that. I try to just use enough that I can still roll it up a little and poke it down in. I can wick fine with either organic cotton or KGD, just can't seem to get it quite right with this stuff.

Try the V method. put a thick and long rayon piece horizontally and on top of the coil. then with a needle push the rayon in the middle down. The rayon piece will fold on itself providing a outward coverage.

 

[JeremyR]

The gennies are more difficult for sure. Have you used it on normal horizontal coils to get the feel for the density you need in the coil.

 

[juggalofisher88]

The gennies are more difficult for sure. Have you used it on normal horizontal coils to get the feel for the density you need in the coil.

I wonder if setting it up like your flash-e tank would work. Rayon/mesh feeder wicks. Then you wick your coils normally with the tail puffs resting on the feeder wicks...
I hope im making sense lol.

 

[cindycated]

Yes sorry, was posting in frustration while under the spell of a turkey coma. Working with vertical micro coil in RSST, I've had one wick last me a day and a half, all the rest I've made last me maybe half a day if that. I try to just use enough that I can still roll it up a little and poke it down in. I can wick fine with either organic cotton or KGD, just can't seem to get it quite right with this stuff.

What does the tail look like, and how tight is the wick in the wick hole?

On my Pulse G, it's pretty loose around the wick hole. I've been going a hair smaller on my coils. If the hole is 3mm, I'll wrap 2.8mm. Something like that, or you can thin down that part of the tail too. Then I split the tail in half that's inside the tank, thin one half to almost transparent, like Jeremy's "tree roots" (but leave it long so you can lay it across the bottom), and cut the other half to a small nub, about the same size as the top tail you have in your pic. The longer strands will feed the shorter ones, but if it runs a little dry, just flip it upside-down for a couple of seconds to feed the nubs. If it leaks excessively around the wick hole, try lining the wick hole with a little mesh before you insert your wick. If that top tail darkens prematurely, try snipping a little off the top at an angle. I guess this is sort of like iTeo's auto feeder? Sorry, I don't have a working camera ATM.

I just ordered an Origen Genesis V2. Woohoo, can't wait! A genny with air!

 

[cindycated]

I wonder if setting it up like your flash-e tank would work. Rayon/mesh feeder wicks. Then you wick your coils normally with the tail puffs resting on the feeder wicks...
I hope im making sense lol.

Is there a link somewhere on here that goes into that in more detail? The way I'm doing it now kinda works, but I know it could be a lot better...

 

[Aal_]

My European friends, where are you getting cheap VG from?

Unfortunately all cheap VG in the US require 10 times its price for shipping lol.

 

[juggalofisher88]

Is there a link somewhere on here that goes into that in more detail? The way I'm doing it now kinda works, but I know it could be a lot better...

Something like this, maybe more rayon maybe not... Lol
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=14077841

 

[cobalt327]

I have a solution brewing for this AMD.

Hopefully I can have it all lined up very soon. There will not be a shortage of the highest quality rayon.

Now you're talking!

 

[tchavei]

My European friends, where are you getting cheap VG from?

Unfortunately all cheap VG in the US require 10 times its price for shipping lol.

Pharmacy or even supermarket. I wasn't 100% sure about the purity at first so I contacted the lab that distributes it across Portugal and they sent me the analysis sheets for both of my bottles (different batches thus different analysis performed) and both were 99.9++ (can't remember the exact significant digits but they were very high). Not cheap but I buy a 120ml bottle or so for 1.10€ and need one maybe every 3 months or so...

If you really need high quantities, I know a pharmaceutical supplier in Spain. I remember that they had 5L jugs at very good prices. Not sure about shipping costs but to Portugal they were low.

I can look for a link if you want.

Regards
Tony

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[Moxienator]

Yes sorry, was posting in frustration while under the spell of a turkey coma. Working with vertical micro coil in RSST, I've had one wick last me a day and a half, all the rest I've made last me maybe half a day if that. I try to just use enough that I can still roll it up a little and poke it down in. I can wick fine with either organic cotton or KGD, just can't seem to get it quite right with this stuff.

I'm where you are right now.

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[JeremyR]

Quite an assortment there. I don't use the top fibers, Some do. It may work in the gennies but I haven't tried it.

If you can wick the coil before putting it together that would help. Snug wick the you can feel the wick sqeak on with the CCr fiber. Then gauge the coil hiegth. Trim 75% of the wick off at a slight downward angle. Take the thin tail to the bottom. Thin feeds to thicker and the thickest part of the wick will pull juice. The thickest part should be in the coil.

 

[JeremyR]

I wonder if setting it up like your flash-e tank would work. Rayon/mesh feeder wicks. Then you wick your coils normally with the tail puffs resting on the feeder wicks...
I hope im making sense lol.

I'm using open mesh straws in a gravity feed system.(flashevapor) Not sure how it would work against gravity, but it might. A long mesh straw to the bottom sticking slightly out of the deck then you prewicked coil cut short & set right on top of it. Don't know..

 

[PaulBHC]

My gennies don't have wick problems, just coil gunking to the point of not vaping well. I put a long enough tail in the tank that I can pull the wick up and cut off any darkened portion if I notice anything off. I pull the wick to dry burn. I roll a piece of rayon with my palms until it is a little larger than the coil. Twist the tip and cut off the real thin part. Wet and stick the tip down the coil into the hole. Push the tip through the hole with a paper clip leg until the fatter portion is in the coil. Trim the top and drip some juice on it.

My coils are 30ga, around 2mm, 2 ohms and spaced. Around 8 watts.

 

[JeremyR]

At 8w rayon would work at any density and tail feathers. Low wattage is easy with rayon..
20+ watts is were wicking becomes much more important. I tried my first 2 builds on the rsst at 25w, drilled it to 2mm... and I put it back on the shelf. My other stuff works too well to mess with it much more yet.

 

[Kaezziel]

There is no way to adjust it that I know of. Perhaps build it to fit the cutouts?

I'm a bit late to the party, but I agree with this... I think it's simple enough to look at where the cutouts land and then build the coil to line up with them. I suppose that one could enlarge the cutouts with a bit of dremel usage, but it seems unnecessary...

I built vertical coils at about 0.26 ohms. Rayon wicks (of course!). Thinned the tails pretty dramatically, but left a little hat on top of each coil... then kinda pulled them together just above/across the posi-block so that it can catch my drippings... Here's a pretty crappy cell phone pic, but it gives ya the idea of what I did... if anyone can see room for improvement (aside from a better camera), I would be more than open to suggestions!

 

[Moxienator]

Quite an assortment there. I don't use the top fibers, Some do. It may work in the gennies but I haven't tried it.

If you can wick the coil before putting it together that would help. Snug wick the you can feel the wick sqeak on with the CCr fiber. Then gauge the coil hiegth. Trim 75% of the wick off at a slight downward angle. Take the thin tail to the bottom. Thin feeds to thicker and the thickest part of the wick will pull juice. The thickest part should be in the coil.

I'll give it a shot. Its in a KFL+ and a veritas single vertical coil for me, as opposed to his Genny, but I'm having the same issues. I'll try again though. Maybe I've been using too much. Its not like I'll run out any time soon.

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[Lbox88]

Try the V method. put a thick and long rayon piece horizontally and on top of the coil. then with a needle push the rayon in the middle down. The rayon piece will fold on itself providing a outward coverage.

I tried this method and seem to have the same problem this time, got about 1/2 through one tank and starting to get funny tasting sorta dry hits, maybe I'm still using too much. Made another with even less CC and just started it, so we'll see how long this one lasts. If it still doesn't I don't know what to do, its barely enough to even fill the coil.

BTW, vaping at 1.4-1.6 ohms, 11.5W

 

[PaulBHC]

Leave the fill plug out and tilt to keep the liquid at the wick hole. Other than that, try lower watts?

 

[Lbox88]

People use the fill plug? Lol, I tossed mine right after I opened the package. After this wick fails I'll try a longer tail down into the tank and see how that works, otherwise I might have a big ole box of wick I'll have to hide away for a bit so I don't light it on fire.

For this stuff to be better than the others, sure is a pain to try to work with.