Re-Stuffed Carts. Working Very well.

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ladybug51

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:D Thanks Smokin. :cool:

Bug, I don't know how hot atomisers are supposed to get. I have one that works fine but gets very warm, it just seems to work best like that. Some others I've used hardly get hot at all so I think it might be one of the quirks of different brands. I can't recall a thread about how hot an atomiser should get.

I use the same ones from njoy. I had a couple that get real hot and others just warm. When they start to get hot, I think it's because I vaped too much on it for a while. I just give them a rest.

Also, I find when I first vape on them, they produce a lot of vapor and start it starts to fizzle out. I set it aside to squeeze later and put a fresh filled one in. If the battery is still decently charged, I get good draw and vapor. Vice vera on the battery.
 

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Before you have to restuff I have found that recycling them goes a quite a long way. This has worked so well for me i will post a little guide on how I do it.
This process works so well for me I just had to share. I can recycle my cartridges and they work like new I've done it 3 times already with all my cartridges.

Step 1:
Take the cartridges you got pre-filled or ones you filled yourself.

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Step 2:
Using normal tweezers gently pull the white filling from your cartridge. Notice they are brown from the residue e-liquid

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Step 3:
Drop them in a sink or bowl filled with just tap water at room temperature.
It should take only 1-2 minutes for the brown fillings to turn white by themselves.

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Step 4:
Gently take the fillings from the sink and place in paper towel. you can let them dry on their own(Not in direct hot sunlight). You can speed up this process by VERY gently pressing the fillings against the paper towel then let them dry thoroughly.

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Step 5:
Use a Q-tip to clean the shell of the cartridge. Careful not to push too hard or you can move the plastic plate at the end of the mouthpiece.

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Step 6:
Using the tweezers now with the dry clean filling insert it back in the shell.

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Step 7:
Done! you have an almost brand new cartridge ready to be filled with any flavor.

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IMPORTANT!:
If after you refill and start vaping you feel the e-liquid is seeping through the back plastic plate in your mouth STOP USING IT. Myself and a friend learned the hard way that if you taste the liquid and keep tasting it you can get a horrible queasy nauseated feeling. It goes away after an hour or two but it terrible while it lasts.

Thanks Liam! this is how I do it. If I suck any nicotine, it's because,(I feel), the filler didn't get all the way down to the end. I put these with the others too re-squeeze later. I have so many carts, I keep the majority aside till the ones I'm using don't work too well.
 

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Some people use fishtank filter for replacing the cartridge filler Bug. I don't usually use cartridges so I don't know what works well.

To ME, it isn't something I'd feel good about, yet. I have batting material someone said they use. I can try that. Or buy a bunch of carts from China as well as atomizers and batteries. As long as it's not juice, it should pass inspection, I would think.

I get free replacements from NJOY but what if they all fizzle out at the same time as they did. I had to smoke cigs. for a couple days and they were disgusting.

Thanks Kate. If the batting doesn't work well, I might try the fish tank filler but I would have no idea how to do either equal to the original filler. Cutting, how much, folding? Yada, yada, yada.
 
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ladybug51

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To ME,
Thanks Kate. If the batting doesn't work well, I might try the fish tank filler but I would have no idea how to do either equal to the original filler. Cutting, how much, folding? Yada, yada, yada.

Here's something applefr3ak talked about using fish tank filler that sounds promising. It's back down further on another page. I just went there accidentally.
 

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I own a company that make 100% biodegradable packing materials and I know from past experiments that this product is very absorbent to oil, and with the e-liquids consisting mostly of oil I had to try. It works GREAT!!! (Re-fillable and/ or cheap enough to have a fresh one every time, also eliminating the old nicotine problem.) It also seems to hold and use all the e-liquid better with much less waste.
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Hey there nitewriter! Pardon if this has been asked before. What is your packing material made of? e.g., is it a fiber type material?

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Terra... great video! I just got some poly fill stuff and I was gona do this one too.. but I have not had a moment to spare (my partners bday was this weekend). My only critique is you should try to move slower and hold the small items closer to the cam (also.. u have big hands.. try using a tweezer to hold small stuff so it is better visible). If you don't mind.. I may also do this on my "video for newbies" also.
 

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I've only tried cleaning/refilling a couple of carts so far. I have found using a straight pin or a safety pin will allow me to "tuck" the corners into the cart a little more easily than tweezers (they tend to kind of unfold while i'm trying to insert them) Then, once all 4 corners are tucked in, the filling seems to slide in quite easily.
 

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Here's another video from me explaining the who/why/what/when/where/how of rebuilding your carts.

YouTube - Rebuilding / Revamping cartridges...The right stuff(ing) lololol...Yeah, I know...that was dumb.


Terraphon --Keep these videos coming as people need to actually see what is being talked about and you do an excellent job at this--I know it takes time to due a Video, but so many memeber benefit from your efforts--We should all be appreciative to Terraphon for stepping up and taking the time to make these informative videos--A Full thumbs up is in order--Sun:thumb:
 

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Terra... great video! I just got some poly fill stuff and I was gona do this one too.. but I have not had a moment to spare (my partners bday was this weekend). My only critique is you should try to move slower and hold the small items closer to the cam (also.. u have big hands.. try using a tweezer to hold small stuff so it is better visible). If you don't mind.. I may also do this on my "video for newbies" also.

In the future, if I do another video that covers something with a delicate manual process, I'll see about moving the camera closer. one problem is that the cam is 5 feet away from me and still gets that big of a picture.

I'll see what I can do for future vids, though.

I've only tried cleaning/refilling a couple of carts so far. I have found using a straight pin or a safety pin will allow me to "tuck" the corners into the cart a little more easily than tweezers (they tend to kind of unfold while i'm trying to insert them) Then, once all 4 corners are tucked in, the filling seems to slide in quite easily.

This is correct. I use a safety pin and a paper clip because they allow me more delicate control and are more maneuverable...Makes things a lot easier.

Terraphon --Keep these videos coming as people need to actually see what is being talked about and you do an excellent job at this--I know it takes time to due a Video, but so many memeber benefit from your efforts--We should all be appreciative to Terraphon for stepping up and taking the time to make these informative videos--A Full thumbs up is in order--Sun:thumb:

Thanks, Sun. I'm just glad to be able to contribute to the community. Without knowledge, people are going to get frustrated with the technology and that will end up killing the movement. Fortunately, I'm a classic early adopter (having been an engineer for a dozen years helps) and can pretty much patience my way through most issues until I come up with a solution.

One of my limiting factors, right now, is that I only have an evo. Once I get a 901 or something more wide-spread, I can start figuring out the little glitches with those, too, and I can make videos describing processes that other people have laid out, too.

Like I said; Glad I can help.
 

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Thanks for the Fluval advice. My husband works in a pet store so I'll be sure to pick some up today. Meanwhile, what I have been doing to restuff is using just simple polyester cotton 'batting' which is what you use for the interior of quilts. You can peel it quite thin and roll it up. Only issue is that it can get rather hairy, so you have to trim it a lot. The Fluval would seem to address the hairy issue quite nicely :)

Also - I wash out my carts, atomizers and such pretty regularly. For lack of other ingredients, I just use a drop of Dawn dish soap in a small container with hot soapy water, agitate, agitate, dump out - fill with clean water, agitate, agitate - empty out - then fill with clean water again.

That seems to work. No aftertaste from soap, no film on carts. I have to wash rather carefully as I don't want to be smoking Dish soap :p Rinsing twice seems to do it. Rinsing once doesn't.
 

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I've been using the batting. Found out not to use too much or hard draw. I just wash the batting in plain water but I clean the carts 1part clorox to 10parts water and rinse well.

Will ck. out Fluval. Maybe washing is nessecary but I will try water first. Much easier and I find no need for detergent. They rinse clear of nicotine.

Happy stuffing everyone. Speaking of stuffing, I wonder if I stuffed my turkey with it, might absorb all the juice. Then squeeze it out and make the gravy.:p
 

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I just bought some replacement material from Pets at Home in the UK.

It's Fluval 3 Plus Polyester Filter Pads. For £6.00 ish you get four thick pads which can be each separated (pulled apart) into five thinner slices. I would guess each "slice" would make about 60 fillers, so a box would fill approx 1200 cartridges.

I looks, feels and vapes exactly the same as the original 901 carts. I was washing my fillers out but I will now just chuck them away and re-fill them with this stuff.
 

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Guys, I dont know if its mentioned to the forum but I use extra slim swan filters witch I bought from www.eshoppersonline.com. The packet has 2400 filters and the price If I remember well is 6 euro. That means that for the next 3-4 years I am ok. The filters works fine. I have no problem and they are filters for analog cigarettes so I think that the are ok for our purposes. They have to keep thinks that we mustn't inhale, like the analogs smoke
 

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In terms of inhaling gaseous byproducts from vapourizing, I'd probably be more concerned about any plastic products in contact with warm air flow. I am uncertain of where these things are manufactured, however, China hasn't had the finest Q.C. track record for a few years (I hope there's no lead in there!). It terms of wadding, likely a modern, inert fire-......ant material would be the safest bet.

What we're looking for is mainly a balance of three properties of an ideal material.
1) Robust structure - mainly, you dont want fibrous or particulate matter to be pulled in by the liquid through the atomizer thus ending up in your breathers.
2) Leaching - You essentially want to make sure molecular bonds are strong enough to not break apart and dissolve into the liquid (even at high tempuratures). And;
3) Absorbtion. We all know the crappy paper towls at the office poopen-häus can't absorb jack-****. Wet hands suck, and so does leaky Nicquid (TM).

I'm still awaiting for my first e-cig, and although the videos you all have posted have been very informative...unfortunately compression rates make it very difficult for me to see in detail what exactly is going on. I have to infern was going on based on your fine descriptions.
 

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Guys, I dont know if its mentioned to the forum but I use extra slim swan filters witch I bought from www.eshoppersonline.com. The packet has 2400 filters and the price If I remember well is 6 euro. That means that for the next 3-4 years I am ok. The filters works fine. I have no problem and they are filters for analog cigarettes so I think that the are ok for our purposes. They have to keep thinks that we mustn't inhale, like the analogs smoke

It seems I recall someone else trying cig filters, and it didn't work. The ecig cartridge filler is "porous" (for lack of a better term). I see cig filters as good for collecting tar, etc, but does the juice really leach down well to the atomizer with them?

Just like someone said they use the sham wow towels. I find it hard to believe these work well. I saw the commercial where they show how they hold a ton of liquid without dripping. So how much liquid would you have to use to actually get it to keep the atomizer moist?

At least porous allows the juice to "seep down" a little to the atomizer. Does a cig filter really do that? Or the sham wow? :confused:

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