Siren 2 tips and tricks

[stols001]

How did you break the rayon into 2 pieces inside of a coil? Did you pull it too hard? Otherwise, I don't have a clue?

Like a week in or so if stuffed to tight, the rayon would burn (I assume) and break in two pieces, when really rayon can last a lot longer. Etc.

Anna

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Like a week in or so if stuffed to tight, the rayon would burn (I assume) and break in two pieces, when really rayon can last a lot longer. Etc.

Anna

Never heard of anything like that before. LOL

 

[stols001]

Well, I posted about it on the rayon thread and they'd all heard about it. LOL.

It's like a known "thing" and their recommendations (stuff less tight in the coil) completely and totally worked.

Heh.

Anan

 

[Asmani]

How long should be legs of the wicks be? I assume it should be visible at the bottom:

I'm not sure why it's turned brown on the right side. It is working well anyway.

 

[smacuser]

nice.

 

[Janusz]

How long should be legs of the wicks be? I assume it should be visible at the bottom:

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I'm not sure why it's turned brown on the right side. It is working well anyway.

It looks perfect.

Legs of the wicks should be visible...but not resting on bottom... they can be shorter or even barely visible...it is good to make them the same length on both sides...

I do not know why on the right side it turned brown but it happens sometimes to me also with some juices ... as long as it wicks ok and you do not feel burnt taste it should be ok... it can be old previous slightly burnt juice coming of tiny spaces of deck or coil or some impurities from cotton or juice.

 

[stols001]

I'm not sure why it's turned brown on the right side. It is working well anyway.

I've had that happen too I always kind of assumed that perhaps one of my legs was slightly longer, and/or airflow was slightly better on one side, or possibly my coil was slightly imperfectly mounted OR perhaps it was the way I held the mod, since I usually tilt it in a certain direction or something.

You can see I've pondered it a bit. It's all speculation and because my vape was always fine, I didn't do like, tests or anything.

But yes, it happens.

Anna

 

[Hawise]

I've had that happen too I always kind of assumed that perhaps one of my legs was slightly longer, and/or airflow was slightly better on one side, or possibly my coil was slightly imperfectly mounted OR perhaps it was the way I held the mod, since I usually tilt it in a certain direction or something.

You can see I've pondered it a bit. It's all speculation and because my vape was always fine, I didn't do like, tests or anything.

But yes, it happens.

Anna

It can be the coil, but I find it's usually something to do with the wicking. It means that the wick is drawing more juice from one side than the other. When you open the chamber, you'll probably find that that side of the wick is darker and has more gunk than the other.

If it's working well enough, I'd just keep vaping it until it's time to change the wick. When you change, make sure the wick is even on both sides.

Have you checked out any wicking videos on Youtube? I found it useful to watch a few when I was starting.

I'm one of many vapers who's perfectly satisfied with cotton. If you're interested in rayon then try it out by all means, but you should be able to get a very good vape with cotton.

It sounds like you're not confident in the quality or source of your cotton. If that's the case, I'd strongly recommend boiling it before you use it. Cotton can come with pesticides and other chemicals on it from the plant or the processing. Boiling helps to clean it. Put some cotton in a pot of water on the stove and boil it for about 10 minutes. Then hang it up and wait a day or two for it to dry completely before you use it.

Good luck!

 

[Asmani]

How do I know it's time to change the wicks and when it's time to change the coil?

 

[ilporcupine]

How do I know it's time to change the wicks and when it's time to change the coil?

Usually, an off-taste or diminishing of flavor is a signal to re-wick. Coils can be dry-burnt and cleaned up, but some just change them out. There are lots of threads on here about this subject. Check the new user forum and then the wick and wire section. Opinions vary. My own preference is to change coil after one re-wick. Mostly, I find I want to experiment with different coils anyway, and it isn't hard to wind and replace. If you have a lot of money or time invested in fancy coils, you try to make them last, but I use simple single round wire coils(cheap).
Some sweet or dark colored juices tend to "gunk up" wicks and coils more quickly, so you need to be aware of this and watch for it.

 

[Silka]

When it tastes Manky its time to change the wick

 

[Silka]

Hey Anna, the Grahams Cellucotton 44130 is 100% Rayon too.
Its what I use, after recommendations from the Brains trust.
Reading this thread I thought I might order another box from Amazon but they no longer ship here. We can buy it from Amazon Australia but its $106 a box V $6 a box from the US!
I dont think I need more but was thinking in terms of Vapergeddon

 

[ilporcupine]

Rayonati guys, please note OP's location. I don't think he can just go to Sally, or get Amazon delivery. You AU guys think you got it tough? Cotton may be his best bet. Does FT have rayon?

 

[Silka]

Good point, happy to send a little bit for you to try Asmani - it will be fine in a envelope so no need to pay postage.
Sorry for the thread derail

 

[Asmani]

Good point, happy to send a little bit for you to try Asmani - it will be fine in a envelope so no need to pay postage.
Sorry for the thread derail

Thank you for being so kind. I have access to good cotton, and @eMado says Fasttech ships to Iran.

 

[Asmani]

Shouldn't the wicking material be resistant to fire? I tried and they burnt to ashes. I think my material is organic cotton, since "the fibers run in a certain direction".

Additionally, my father is a retired dentist and I found this among his stuff:

Can I use these if I put them in boiling water first?

 

[Asmani]

I'm vaping with the 1.1 ohm coil included in the Siren 2 package. It's been 4 days, and the coil became gunky. I tried dry burning it just like this guy does:



However, it seems to be not working. This how it looks after dry burning several times:

I should add that it is working very well though.

 

[PapawBrett]

I use the Siren 2 for TC vaping on an Eleaf Pico. SS316 and KohGenDo cotton work just fine around 400°F.
But the little beast is a flavor monster.

 

[DaveP]

However, it seems to be not working. This how it looks after dry burning several times:

Dry burning is good for getting rid of the crud on a coil, but dry burn just until you see a slight red glow, then dunk it immediately under a stream of water in the sink to cool it and wash off the ash. To much dry burning ruins the wire. It should be shiny after a dry burn and wash. If it's dull, it's probably time for a new coil.

If your cotton comes apart when you try to slide it through the coil, it's cut with the grain wrong. Pull on it and find the direction where it's strong, then cut it along the strong side. If it's cut right you can't pull it apart easily when you tug on the ends. Roll the wick between your fingers to size it, create a tiny point that will go through the coil, and insert the wick into the coil. Twist it as you push it into the coil, then grab the other end as it comes out of the coil and twist as you pull it the rest of the way through the coil. You should be turning it in the direction that the coil is wound so that the coil turns propel it through.

 

[stols001]

Rayon or cotton in the absence of eliquid should most CERTAINLY combust and do so readily.

Wicks don't usually catch fire if they're wet. I've occasionally heard of this, but usually there is something else going on to ACCOUNT for it.

Also, combusting rayon vs. cotton is not going to tell you much other than they're both flammable. I highly doubt that one is going to ignite before the other, and even if so, I'm not sure you'd be able to accurately tell.

This is the reason clothing had fire ......ant material added to it. People were catching themselves on fire. I have plenty of cotton and rayon items with BURN holes in it LOL. But, due to fire ......ant materials I have been lucky enough to not become a Human Torch at least so FAR.

Anna