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Smok xPro M50 Mini Box Mod

Discussion in 'VV/VW APV Discussion' started by CigmundFreud, Dec 19, 2014.

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  1. ObsceneJesster

    ObsceneJesster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2012
    Baltimore
    I use the Samsung 25R's and the LG HE4's. Both seem to perform the same and last about the same amount of time.

    I will say that I have a buddy who uses nothing but Purple E-Fest batteries in his IPV3 and he is constantly pushing 75-100 watts. He's never had a problem with them. Are the purple E-Fest batteries okay for the IPV3 and not the X-ProM50?
     
  2. Cotay

    Cotay Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    There are various Purple Efest batteries. The Efest 2500mah cells are wrapped LG HE2s...they are fine. I would avoid the 3100mah in a 50w device...they are fine for a 15w Zmax.
     
  3. Greenhill Glanvon Weol

    Greenhill Glanvon Weol Full Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    I understand that Efest 3100 is with 10/20A rating, but the Smok M65 is rated for 11A no?
    Should I get Samsung 25R's or the LG HE4's, what battery will last longer?
    Thank You
     
  4. ObsceneJesster

    ObsceneJesster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2012
    Baltimore
    They're both 2500mah and I use both on a regular basis in my M50. In my experience they both last just as long but the LG let's me vape at a higher wattage for a longer period of time. The Samsung will start dropping the wattage on me noticeably sooner than the LG.
     
  5. Cotay

    Cotay Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Some people have had your experience and others have found the 25R to last longer. I think they are essentially neck and neck. Review the charts in this post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/592339-comparison-vtc4-vtc5-lg-icr18650he2-samsung-inr18650-25r.html
     
  6. ObsceneJesster

    ObsceneJesster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2012
    Baltimore
  7. Cotay

    Cotay Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I don't know where you are getting your information, but the spec sheets on the HE2 and HE4 show the internal resistance of the HE4 is higher:

    HE2: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powerstream.com%2Fp%2FLG%252018650HE2%2520Technical%2520Information.pdf&ei=vZXZVLuRGYeWNuDpgIAM&usg=AFQjCNEALWGaadSiHO_rXjK3F-8vatpxoA&sig2=GQzTOdlj78-diyCf163oTA

    HE4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d622nrfipiic16h/LGDBHE41865.pdf?dl=0

    From what I can tell from the spec sheets the HE4 is generally the same or worse than the HE2. That is also the conclusion the folks on Reddit arrived at: http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2my0ee/lg_18650he4/

    From what I've read elsewhere, the HE4 was tuned to operate at a lower temperature under peak output conditions. That appears to be their only advantage over the HE2. Even some folks here on ECF are finding the HE2s last longer than the HE4s: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/626215-lg-he4-18650-a-3.html
     
  8. Monotremata

    Monotremata Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2014
    Covina, CA
    The HE4 is no different than the HE2 other than having a lower resistance and keeping 'cooler' than an HE2. The performance should be the same..
     
  9. Cotay

    Cotay Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'd be very interested to see where the lower resistance of the HE4 is documented. I can't find that in the LG issued spec sheets. But I'll be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong...it wouldn't be the first, or last time I'm sure. :)
     
  10. Croak

    Croak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2012
    Right behind you...
    There's so much variance between batches of batteries, I wouldn't put a ton of credence in a few cases where an HE2 outlasted an HE4, or vice versa (or performed differently than a 25r or VTC5, for that matter, for the same reason).

    It could be that dragonsdeath's HE2s and rewraps came from a primo batch and the HE4's were lower binned.

    I've got 5 HE2s, 2 25r's, 2 HE4s from last year, and a fresh set of 4 HE4's as of this week, and I can't really see a difference in longevity between ANY of them. And none of them last me more than a couple hours when I'm at home chain vaping.
     
  11. Greenhill Glanvon Weol

    Greenhill Glanvon Weol Full Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    Just checked, locally, the price of HE4 is two bucks lower than the purple Efest 2500MAh (HE2 rewraps?), but the 25R is two bucks cheaper than HE4..
    ..I'm leaning towards 25R but the spec said that it'll drop capacity into almost half at certain charge cycle?
     
  12. Monotremata

    Monotremata Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2014
    Covina, CA
    Real LGs are usually cheaper than the Efest rewraps, which are the batteries LG rejected and didn't want..
     
  13. Bleheri

    Bleheri Full Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    Denmark
    For thoose with resistance issues, check to see if the 510 has moved at all. My tanks would not sit flush all of the sudden, cousing me to screw the atty down farther and the resistance would jump all over the place. I took the blunt end of a screwdriver and pushed down on the 510 (make sure you press down on the SS threads). The top of the SS threads should sit flush or slightly below the lowest part of the air slits near the 510. This has fixed any resistance issues i have had, and i can get my atty to sit flush again
     
  14. Greenhill Glanvon Weol

    Greenhill Glanvon Weol Full Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    I have this sudden urge to rip out the internals of this M65 and put it in another box, with dual 18650 parallel.
     
  15. k0shi

    k0shi Full Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Do it! If it works good then make a write up lol


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  16. Greenhill Glanvon Weol

    Greenhill Glanvon Weol Full Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    I'm waiting for my OKR chip, it's in the middle of the ocean somewhere, so I'll have a backup box to vape with in case I fried this Smok board :D
     
  17. thanantos

    thanantos Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Man, lots of anger for this little mod here lately.

    For $50 I couldn't be happier with mine. Good to know about the reverse battery protection though.
     
  18. ddarlington24

    ddarlington24 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2013
    usa
    I must say that i'm really distrusting the battery indicator 83% Kfl @ 17w. And it says weak battery. Okay i plug in the charger and it jumps from 84, 91,96,98. Now i do know its supposed to charge really quick but not in 30 sec's. Brand new 25r aswell
     
  19. 3alouka

    3alouka Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 6, 2015
    Alexandria, Egypt
    Do you think it's time to hit that reset button that's been sitting there all the time doing absolutely nothing? How does it even work? Has anyone tried it yet?
     
  20. Steven Tector

    Steven Tector Full Member

    Dec 16, 2014
    Illinois
    I ordered the Smok Xpro 65 watt. Should be in the mail today; it has passthrough and word on the street is thing thing charges pretty dang fast..like REALLY fast.

    Once you put a battery in it just say goodbye to swapping batteries out and charge it via usb, it should take about 40 minutes to fully charge the battery and you can vape away while doing so. I too am wondering if their is a way to turn the battery saving function off the mod BUT you can also switch this mod into mech mode which will allow you to simply run it off the battery and put a lower resistance atty on it below the 0.2 ohm standard. In the packaging it comes with two spare silicon buttons so thats another plus with this upgraded mod.

    Guys this thing is a tiny 65 watt powerhouse of a mod. You can't always get every little thing you wish for when it comes to these things but for $48 I got this thing and I think that is a great deal for this mod. I can't really say more about it because I don't offically have it in my hands yet but any gripes or pains I have with it I will keep posted on the forum.
     
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