Ridiculous! I hope some day people learn the truth about vaping and stop this craziness, it could drive people back to cigarettes, which would be a tragedy.
Smoking is allowed...but vaping isn't [college campus]
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It is a Hypothetical Question Caramel.
I'm not projection this on the OP's Campus. And I can Only Speak to what I Witnessed on the Campus I taught at.
So what is Your Plan?
I'm not Say'n it is Right or Wrong. Just What it Is.
It would be Nice if we Lived in a Place where the Few do not Screw Things Up for the Many. But I don't know of such a Place.
If I did, I Might consider Moving there.
Make sure that your measures affect only those found at fault.
It's the whole principle behind the legal system. We don't put everyone in jail "just in case".
It's the whole principle behind the legal system. We don't put everyone in jail "just in case".
You say "It is what it is / move elsewhere if you don't like" and then you wonder why some people find issues with the current educational system....
And how Exactly will a Universities Policy do that?
I'm not trying to put you on the Spot. It's just sometimes Achieving one goal in a policy is Difficult to do without Effecting some that you would Rather Not.
So how do you Stop those putting something into an e-Cigarette that perhaps they Shouldn't without Effecting those who Only use an e-Cigarette for Harm Reduction?
Well you first have to answer my previous question - how exactly did you determine that they were doing it in the first place?
The answer to your question starts there.
The answer to your question starts there.
Because I read the Campus Security Non-Academic Incident Reports.
And did the campus authorities prosecute the offenders? Or just use the incident to prosecute the innocent majority?
I do.
You do Understand that I am referring to Incidents that occurred on My Campus, Right?
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So Caramel, have you had a Chance to think about what your Policy would be to Stop Individuals from using these Substances on campus Without those who just use an e-Cigarette for Harm Reduction?
Because that was the Original Question.
Its funny because when you think about it, Zero tolerance is a pretty terrible policy for most things lol.
I would prosecute the offender to the full extent of the law and punishments available to me to make a public example of them.
Were they actually charged in criminal court
In two case, the Individuals were Prosecuted. In one other the person was Not. All were Expelled.
I'll ask you the Same Question.
If you want to Stop Individuals from using these Substances on campus, how would you go about it?
You can't Stop them. You can only Discourage them. So please reformulate your question.
And let me reformulate mine so you couldn't avoid answering it for a 4th time: how were the perpetrators caught?
And let me reformulate mine so you couldn't avoid answering it for a 4th time: how were the perpetrators caught?
I told you prosecute them and get them off campus or into jail if proper for the crime.
. It is flat wrong to prosecute the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. And taking away freedoms is prosecution.
By arresting someone if and when they do something illegal with their Ecig and use it in public or on campus. Blanket banning things we are afraid of is a very stupid and irrational response that I wouldn't expect from a campus of higher learning like a University. CMD-ky you might be closer to the truth than I thought with your statements on the state of the educational system a couple pages back.
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