So I finally saw it happen...

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beckdg

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As I write this, and look around my small office, the only thing in here electrical that works closest to a basic e-cig is a light bulb and I bet that a lot of people, especially younger people, don't even know how they work. They just do.

and with incandescent bulbs being phased out, that even will drastically change...
 

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Well, I know about battery safety. And I have still fried two batteries before. I was at a restaurant drinking beers before dinner with some friends at a restaurant in Germany and someone asked me to explain an unregulated box I had with me. And I did. I even took it apart a bit. And then I quickly put one of the batteries in backwards, even though I had specifically put stickers on them to denote that they were married and the sticker was at the positive side of both batteries. I just wasn't thinking about it and wasn't paying attention. This is like direct shorting both batteries positive to negative. About 30-45 seconds later I realized what I did and ripped those batteries out of there... they were hot... too hot to touch and hot enough to make some marks on the wrapping. No venting or explosions though... but those batteries were no longer functional. I guess at least I only use good quality batteries (25R) and no one got hurt. And then I went to whole rest of the night without anything to vape because I didn't bring extra batteries since my dual 18650 mod would have lasted had I not destroyed the batteries.

At least I can say it was a learning experience. I will never do that again.
 

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Yes but it is not the schools fault or yours.
The students can't sue you because they didn't pay attention or don't remember.
They remember enough to pass your class and graduate high school.
It's not your responsibility to make them remember once they reach adulthood.


Ask any sane adult what happens when you touch a metal wrench to BOTH posts of a car battery.
We all know what happens, and it's not good.


If someone is too mentally deficient to apply that concept to a battery that clearly is sold as a "high discharge" battery, they are clearly dangerous people who need constant supervision...IMHO in a care facility.

I do not believe that anyone said it was the schools fault. It is just human nature to not recall things that we had been once taught that have not been used for many years. With the rare exception of those who have an idealic memory.

This in no way means that someone is an idiot or requires supervision in a care facility. And Honestly I take offense to that because I have a son who actually does require care in a facility.
I pose that one who cannot articulate a thought without resorting to name calling via equating that person to one who truly does need help, is the less intelligent person.
 
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I wouldn't be the least surprised to find out my mother doesn't know that. And she's actually a genius. I bet my sister doesn't know either. She and her husband asked me to drive 2 hours each way to cut off her rusty license plate bolts, and to put their closet door back on the tracking :facepalm:

Please take no offense, for none is intended.
If your mom doesn't know that shorting a car battery will cause a radical discharge of electricity, I don't think genius applies.
This is basic eighth grade science, that she did in fact learn or she didn't graduate high school.

She may have forgotten, or never read he warning labels on batteries... Or maybe just never applied any thought to it.
I just don't buy that a reasonably functioning adult doesn't know deep down inside that shorting a battery causes a discharge of energy.

Batteries have warning labels, whether you read them or not is on you.
 

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No, my mom couldn't care less about batteries or anything to do with cars unless they stop working ;). If they need a new battery, she has the shop change it. In fact, one just recently needed a new battery and she was quite appalled when I suggested she change it. She had AAA towthe car in :laugh:

We are very different people. If I can do it myself, I just do. And in the meantime she freaks out that I'm doing it. Sadly, my dad is even less mechanical than she is. I had to put together my own toys as a 4 year old.

Take a guess how my mom reacts everytime I do electrical work in my house. She actually asked me not to use ladders when I did the roof and siding! I'm 5'4", and the house is 28' tall. I asked her if she wanted me to try a trampoline, rofl!
 

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No, my mom couldn't care less about batteries or anything to do with cars unless they stop working ;). If they need a new battery, she has the shop change it. In fact, one just recently needed a new battery and she was quite appalled when I suggested she change it. She had AAA towthe car in :laugh:

We are very different people. If I can do it myself, I just do. And in the meantime she freaks out that I'm doing it. Sadly, my dad is even less mechanical than she is. I had to put together my own toys as a 4 year old.

Take a guess how my mom reacts everytime I do electrical work in my house. She actually asked me not to use ladders when I did the roof and siding! I'm 5'4", and the house is 28' tall. I asked her if she wanted me to try a trampoline, rofl!

I think it's a given that it's quite unexpected to find mechanical talent in women -- people who can see what needs to be done, and then do it. And equally, that sort of thing is *expected* of men, yet some men don't know one end of a screwdriver from the other (both my ex-husband and my stepfather come to mind!). I've always had that sort of talent myself, but rarely had any outlet for it -- until first, PCs, the mechanical aspects of upgrading, installing hardware, etc, and now with vaping -- my husband remains completely amazed at how I've taken to it. The real key is, having a need and a desire to get something accomplished, and not relying on others to do it for you. Anyone of reasonable intelligence for whom those conditions apply, can pretty much learn whatever they need to know, in order to accomplish their ends -- especially now, with the internet!

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Place me in a facility for the insane. : blink: I do not recall ever learning anything about batteries in school. If I did, I certainly had no real time use for that so did not even retain the memory if I had.

Try to remember that each person has an area that they excel in and areas they don't. As the intelligent people have suggested, teach as new people come to this vaping world. To not teach but put down instead, that to me is highly unintelligent.

This now concludes the Public Service Announcement. I now return you to your normal thread
 

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No, my mom couldn't care less about batteries or anything to do with cars unless they stop working ;). If they need a new battery, she has the shop change it. In fact, one just recently needed a new battery and she was quite appalled when I suggested she change it. She had AAA towthe car in :laugh:

We are very different people. If I can do it myself, I just do. And in the meantime she freaks out that I'm doing it. Sadly, my dad is even less mechanical than she is. I had to put together my own toys as a 4 year old.

Take a guess how my mom reacts everytime I do electrical work in my house. She actually asked me not to use ladders when I did the roof and siding! I'm 5'4", and the house is 28' tall. I asked her if she wanted me to try a trampoline, rofl!


That's quite alright. Auto mechanics isn't relevant.
Basic safety knowledge is.

I believe she does know that shorting a battery causes a discharge (sparks).
I don't believe any functioning adult is that naive.

And it's quite alright that she doesn't care to learn more about any topic.
But that's her decision and it doesn't mean she can "sue the vape shop" because she didn't remember her 8th grade science lessons.

As adult we take responsibility for our own actions.
 

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I guess you haven't followed the diacetyl debates? :laugh:

Lol
No, not the debates, but it sounds interesting.
I DIY my juice.
;)
Never know what other people are using.


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Just brushed up on it.
Grocery chain should have hired a better attorney.
That's just bat snip crazy.
 
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I think it's a given that it's quite unexpected to find mechanical talent in women

Andria

I completely disagree. I think more often than not, women are more gifted with these talents than men. They just choose to use them in different ways or allow them to go to waste in favor of other talents and more emotional and/or academic endeavors.

I've seen too many wives make their husbands look stupid by showing them what they're overlooking in an attempt to get them out of the garage faster to think otherwise. Of course then they wind up in the garage drinking and marveling over their accomplishments with the boys for the rest of the night. But that's another story.

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Please take no offense, for none is intended.
If your mom doesn't know that shorting a car battery will cause a radical discharge of electricity, I don't think genius applies.
This is basic eighth grade science, that she did in fact learn or she didn't graduate high school.
Genius can severely narrow a minds field of view and completely eliminate the blatantly, painfully obvious in favor of focus on a particular subject matter. For example; I didn't personally know the man, but it's often quoted that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes.


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Genius can severely narrow a minds field of view and completely eliminate the blatantly, painfully obvious in favor of focus on a particular subject matter. For example; I didn't personally know the man, but it's often quoted that Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes.


Tapatyped

That's a myth.
Einstein wasn't an overly impressive student in grade school which led to these myths.
People make up these stories to make themselves feel better.

Einstein wasn't autistic, and yes he was a lot smarter than both you and I.
He also would not have shorted a battery in his pocket.
 

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That's a myth.
Einstein wasn't an overly impressive student in grade school which led to these myths.
People make up these stories to make themselves feel better.

Einstein wasn't autistic, and yes he was a lot smarter than both you and I.
He also would not have shorted a battery in his pocket.
but he did blow things up! 800px-Mushroom-Cloud.jpg
 

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I believe she does know that shorting a battery causes a discharge (sparks).
I don't believe any functioning adult is that naive.

And it's quite alright that she doesn't care to learn more about any topic.
But that's her decision and it doesn't mean she can "sue the vape shop" because she didn't remember her 8th grade science lessons.

As adult we take responsibility for our own actions.

Can't speak for anyone else but I certainly wasn't insinuating anyone can sue anyone. However you keep stating this fact about discharging energy. While it may be taught in 8th grade science, practically speaking, that doesn't mean people really believe there is any danger using as common an item as a battery. Again, basic statistics tells us all its NOT dangerous.

Educate people to be safe. If they aren't it's on them. But I can't say that all factions of the vape community are doing a great job educating... Not when I can buy a mechanical online and get the product and batteries in my hand and never see a warning at all.
 
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and yes he was a lot smarter than both you and I.
He also would not have shorted a battery in his pocket.

What makes you so sure?

For the record, autism has nothing to do with my prior post and "what they say about Einstein" was just for demonstration purposes. There are plenty of normal, highly intelligent people that display similar traits.

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