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I gave it a rest and while keeping quiet I got a message from Parked's friend asking me about myself - who I am, my interests, what I do. It's like dealing with the mafia, shady dealings and half truths.
You are protecting a xxxxxxx SmokeyJoe. He said it himself - at least 25% of his reviews are biased. For the people who see nothing wrong with that then we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it's wrong and the dirty tricks since add insult to a situation that could have been easily cleared up.
There's been some pretty good covering of advertisements on the review board under the guise of an independent consumer. I believe that members of the forum should be warned that reviews could be marketing tricks.
Attacking me for smelling the rat doesn't make the smell any less.
You are protecting a xxxxxxx SmokeyJoe. He said it himself - at least 25% of his reviews are biased. For the people who see nothing wrong with that then we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it's wrong and the dirty tricks since add insult to a situation that could have been easily cleared up.
There's been some pretty good covering of advertisements on the review board under the guise of an independent consumer. I believe that members of the forum should be warned that reviews could be marketing tricks.
Attacking me for smelling the rat doesn't make the smell any less.
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I think everyone knows your stance on things, and I think anyone willing to read the forum will know what you think of his dealings.
Give it up. Please.
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Indeed, it's quite unbelievable.
Kate, you must realise that you are repeatedly defaming someone on this forum. Any more and I will have to ban you.
Do you understand? The con word is out of bounds. By all means question his business practices, but accusing people of being conmen without any evidence to show they are exposes the forum to unacceptable risk.
It's as if you want this place to be taken down!!
nb. Biased reviews is not the same as being a conman. I suggest you look up what a conman actually is.
hey all...
i believe that would be a not so subtle hint to maybe let this subject die the death it deserves??
"Confidence man, practitioner of confidence tricks"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_Man_(disambiguation)
"A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, or swindle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence."
Confidence trick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How would you define marketing videos posted as reviews on a supposedly independent review board?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_Man_(disambiguation)
"A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, or swindle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence."
Confidence trick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How would you define marketing videos posted as reviews on a supposedly independent review board?
certainly don't think Parked was defrauding anyone. A little sly or devious maybe or just nieve but defraud...i don't think so.
The reviews are off the video review forum now and are in dietsmokes forum, if people watch his review on youtube of the janty dura , youtube links to his other vids too so unless parked deletes all his vids ( which he isn't obliged to do ) , and this forum has no control over youtube, nothing further is gonna happen.
everything is out in the open, I'm suprised it's been allowed to carry on this long. Over on ASCUK something like this would have been killed off as soon as all was revealed which i think all has been.
I can't see what else is required here.
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You're taking this entirely too far, Kate.
It's obvious that this has become more of a personal vendetta or crusade to you, and there's really nothing that's ever going to be said that will pacify you.
You've had the chance to ask all of the questions that you felt hadn't been answered, and you declined. That is your problem if you feel that you're still slighted.
It's obvious that this has become more of a personal vendetta or crusade to you, and there's really nothing that's ever going to be said that will pacify you.
You've had the chance to ask all of the questions that you felt hadn't been answered, and you declined. That is your problem if you feel that you're still slighted.
Dont bash me, but I have a innocent question. So does this mean I can do reveiws of my items and place them in my forum? With a disclaimer of course.
I'll say this once again...
After talking to Parker (should I say "confronting Parker"?) and listening to his story (which is the same as is posted here) I'm completely satisfied that he's on the up and up.
I know that nobody here knows me very well but as time goes on you're likely to realize just how skeptical and cynical I really am. To convince me that he's running straight and narrow was no small feat for Parker but after our time talking, I'm sure he's legit.
As for the videos posted after his decision to become a supplier : An oversight, perhaps...Intentional manipulation of the facts? Nope.
Let's just let this go, please.
After talking to Parker (should I say "confronting Parker"?) and listening to his story (which is the same as is posted here) I'm completely satisfied that he's on the up and up.
I know that nobody here knows me very well but as time goes on you're likely to realize just how skeptical and cynical I really am. To convince me that he's running straight and narrow was no small feat for Parker but after our time talking, I'm sure he's legit.
As for the videos posted after his decision to become a supplier : An oversight, perhaps...Intentional manipulation of the facts? Nope.
Let's just let this go, please.
It's a special no-no if you give a competitors product a bad review while giving the same re-branded product that you sell a good review. Hey... I'm not saying it happened... but it's true.
ah, yes...the Evo review issue...I forgot about that one.
I did press Parker in this issue and here's what I got.
He states that when he did the reviews he had a 2-hole Evo atomizer which CAN effect the performance of the product. We know that 2 hole atomizers were out there and it is possible that this is the case.
I haven't pressed the issue because I have no reason to doubt the veracity of Parker's statement.
Suffice it to say, that HAS been addressed and his answer came quickly and, again, with no signs of evasiveness or deception.
Like I said, I'm satisfied.
doing your own bit of character assignation here aint we joe.. he he
i aint entirely sure the words quoted were my exact words and they are probably out of context..
if i said this place has now gone commercial.. i meant just that.. its no longer just a hobby as you claimed it to be.. its now become a commercial concern..
when a forum gets as busy as this place it has to happen or shut down...
if i say anything that aint postive about this place is cos i think its the case.. this can be as much about the member as the management..
i also have no desire to bring this place down... jeesh.. my own server could have been brought to its knees sheltering your lost bloody souls.. the last time this place entirely predictably went down..
and there was one or two that wanted my help to take over from you joe.. i declined the f-cking offers..
do i get thanks.. jeesh.. no i f-cking dont i just get slagged by you..
come one dude.. dont accuse me of what i aint guilty of please..
I run my own forum as a support for my customers.. thats it.. i certainly dont want a place like this.. when a forum gets as busy as this one the fun stops and keeping it going becomes work..
you also need more than two moderators... just to stop sh-t like this happening as it often will as the place gets busier..
nuff said on my part..
trog
ps.... threads that go bad are simply closed.. if another one gets started a warning is given and that gets closed.. its what mods do joe.. not be every bodies friend.. big means all the nice informal stuff has to go.. mods are policemen.. being one of the lads and a policeman at the same time sadly aint possible..
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I wasn't naming names or pointing out a specific instance... yes that is what brought it to mind, but I was just making a comment.
Sure, bro...I don't blame you. I know this was a major issue of contention for a lot of people.
Just figured I'd cover it.
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