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  1. mac-nutty

    mac-nutty Moved On

    Mar 2, 2019
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    watched the spacex-cr17 launch yesterday with a mate

    just woke up today and i was talking about it and she told me that we have never been to space and only in lower earth orbit and that i had to watch this

    what's ecf's view on this?

    why would they lie? Have Been told they lie to keep the money lol

    first of me hearing all this stuff did nasa really say that ?
     
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  2. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    I didn’t hear anyone actually finish saying anything. All I saw was a bunch of heavily edited partial clips and sentence fragments.

    Does NASA have the capability to put men on the moon right NOW? No.
    Did they in the past? Yes.

    Did I hear anyone actually contradict either statement? No.

    Was I apparently supposed to by whoever edited this video? Yes.

    Did this video annoy me as run-of-the-mill internet misinformation? Oh heck yes!
     
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  3. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Space is and will be for the foreseeable future, a mystery. Unless we discover a way to exceed light speed by magnitudes, we are forever bound to the local group of stars. Warp 10 is still a Star Trek function and we have no idea how to overcome increasing mass that occurs with increases in speed. It's like wading through water. The faster you try to go, the more the water holds you back. Even if we could travel at light speed, could we avoid all the perils we'd encounter as we moved through space that fast? One meteorite would take us out unless we had shields up (and that's another technology we don't possess).

    The farther we look into space with earthbound telescopes, the more we see things that happened thousands and millions or billions of years ago. Proxima Centauri is the closest star to Earth at 4.244 light years away. At the speed of light it would take 4.244 years to reach Proxima Centauri and the same time to come back. How would we support those people with food and other needs for years traveling that far and back? It's not like you could restock before returning home.

    We can only look at out at space and wonder until the technology catches up with our needs. We are bound to our planet and its surrounding solar system until we invent things we didn't know could be invented and developed into reality.
     
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  4. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
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    Dood I have no idea. When it comes to conspiracies about the moon landing, I'm more of the opinion that like, there has been far more space travel than we are even told. For all we know, Google, Russia, and China are fighting it out up there AS I TYPE.

    I also know that I don't much care either way. Until it begins to affect me, I don't waste my time on the subject.

    Anna
     
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  5. jandrew

    jandrew Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2013
    Winnipeg
    Just to point out a correction: the distance to Proxima Centauri is four light years (and change), not four thousand+ light years ... not that that makes any difference as to whether anyone from here is going anywhere near there anytime soon (I mean, Pluto is a mere 4.5 light hours away, and that was still a nearly 10 year journey for the New Horizons spacecraft).
     
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  6. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Your pragmatism humbles me
     
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  7. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA

    Good catch. Not 4,244 light years, it's 4.244 light years. It's amazing the difference a comma instead of a period can make.
     
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  8. mac-nutty

    mac-nutty Moved On

    Mar 2, 2019
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    i am now extremely confused been watching youT videos tonight this one now "Why NASA never went back to the moon"
    and im not sure, far to many things out of place, contradicting storys from astronauts and nasa??
    w...t...f..
     
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  9. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    that, and the earth is flat and the moons too small to land on.
     
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  10. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I can help you:

    We have all been to space. Space surrounds us from before we are born, until after we die. Even the very molecules have huge amounts of space inside them. Mysterious, effortless, here I am sitting, both OCCUPYING space and like, space is all around me. When I pay close attention I can FEEL it, sometimes light and airy, sometimes dark and oppressive.

    Just you know, tell your friend that. You may not know the truth of it, but you'll win the argument, I'm pretty sure.

    People of Space, I SALUTE YOU from my vantage point in space, to yours. Amen, etc. ALL one people we can achieve Whirled Peas and all that crap.

    Yes, I was taught transcendental meditation an I have my special secret word. I can teach you too, and your secret word is "Coke." Because they've done studies and there is like NOOOO difference.

    Also, if we all do TM we are not going to achieve whirled peas, that is not how it works.

    Use the first part though....

    Anna
     
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  11. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Confusion makes sense. I viewed it as actual content free, because the clips were severely edited to the point of fraudulence. There’s no way to tell what any one was actually saying.
     
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  12. ENAUD

    ENAUD falling, falling, down the rabbit hole... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    The moon program was an elaborate hoax to bankrupt the Russians...it's always the Russians...The money from the NASA program is used to construct huge secret underground tunnels and outfit and supply them so the elites have someplace safe to go when Nibiru makes it's next close pass, which will be any year now...just look at all the vids about that one , no, those aren't lens flares, it really is our twin star, it's just been obscured by all the chemtrails the Govmt. has been spraying to hide it.
     
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  13. jandrew

    jandrew Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2013
    Winnipeg
    Now we're talking ... I mean, really, landing on the moon? Seriously? I can hold my thumb out and completely cover the entire moon, so how could people land on it? Sheesh! You got a problem with my logic? I'll crush your head ...
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. mac-nutty

    mac-nutty Moved On

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    im now officially in the dark depths of YouTube

     
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  15. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    This would be more funny to me if I didn’t just dump a philosophy club I joined because it had turned into fringe political indoctrination. Too close to reality for me. Or at least certain versions of others realities anyway. Chemtrails actually came up earlier. It was sad.
     
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  16. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    That's okay I get told on a routine basis that our government is spraying (Tucson, specifically?) weird chemicals on us we are part of some test group.

    I'd feel loads better if it was the Russians. Simply heaps.

    I do understand like, taking a cross section of Tucsonians and wondering what in God's name HAPPENED and like, thinking that. Tucson is....

    It's not a nice place to visit and I'm so glad I don't live there. LOL.

    Anna
     
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  17. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Told by whom?
     
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  18. somdcomputerguy

    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm sure there's a McD's or two, hundred, along the way.
     
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  19. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    ....um......
     
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  20. ENAUD

    ENAUD falling, falling, down the rabbit hole... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Geoengineering They are spraying the sky. They have been for years.
     
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