Starbucks bans PVs

Status
Not open for further replies.

mostlyclassics

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
When Starbucks specifically banned vaping in their stores a couple of years ago, I figured a corporation stupid enough to do that was so stupid that it didn't need any funding from me. So, they went on my boycott list. I won't even let someone treat me to something from Starbucks.

FWIW, nearly all Starbucks are in rental properties and have no say over what happens on the sidewalks outside their doors.

Another bunch of ignorant looney-tunes runs Lowe's: you can't even leave smoking or e-smoking supplies in your car in their parking lot. Needless to say, this policy has honked off a bunch of small contractors and such, many of whom smoke or vape and many of whom won't patronize Lowe's anymore. Needless to say, Lowe's is on my boycott list also.

It's interesting that the other big-box home-improvement stores have been prospering lately, but Lowe's reports declining revenues and earnings.
 

Plettschner

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 2, 2013
1,085
5,979
CT
FWIW, I sent the following message to Starbucks through their Contact Us page:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am inquiring about the new smoking ban outside of stores that goes into effect this weekend. I am an ex-smoker and have a personal vaporizer as my replacement therapy. A PV uses a glycerin and glycol base liquid that is vaporized and inhaled. There is nothing burning, no smoke, and no "second hand" risks associated with PVs. To the uninitiated, it can be mistakenly grouped with smoking (as in cigarette smoking), when it is very different and a very successful way to get away from cigarettes. Anyway, I just want to confirm that the new Starbucks smoking policy will not affect ex-smokers, like myself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And now we wait...
 

Elnroth

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 10, 2012
3,923
5,934
Philadelphia
When Starbucks specifically banned vaping in their stores a couple of years ago, I figured a corporation stupid enough to do that was so stupid that it didn't need any funding from me. So, they went on my boycott list. I won't even let someone treat me to something from Starbucks.

FWIW, nearly all Starbucks are in rental properties and have no say over what happens on the sidewalks outside their doors.

Another bunch of ignorant looney-tunes runs Lowe's: you can't even leave smoking or e-smoking supplies in your car in their parking lot. Needless to say, this policy has honked off a bunch of small contractors and such, many of whom smoke or vape and many of whom won't patronize Lowe's anymore. Needless to say, Lowe's is on my boycott list also.

It's interesting that the other big-box home-improvement stores have been prospering lately, but Lowe's reports declining revenues and earnings.

Good to know. Now lowes is on my list right below Starbucks. And fyi, I vape in home depot and no one ever seems to care.
 

Berylanna

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
2,043
3,287
south Bay Area, California
www.facebook.com
Since second-hand vapor is less harmless than french fries vapor, and possibly in the same neighborhood as other food, milk, and coffee vapor, is there any chance we could take a sample of Starbucks air to a lab that has already analyzed e-cig second-hand air, and find out if we could truthfully start a national campaign saying "Starbucks air is more hazardous than e-cigs" ?

What lab could do such a thing?

It would be deadly dangerous to make a statement like that without lab proof, but WITH lab proof, it would be fun to watch them try to fight it!
 

Elnroth

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 10, 2012
3,923
5,934
Philadelphia
Since second-hand vapor is less harmless than french fries vapor, and possibly in the same neighborhood as other food, milk, and coffee vapor, is there any chance we could take a sample of Starbucks air to a lab that has already analyzed e-cig second-hand air, and find out if we could truthfully start a national campaign saying "Starbucks air is more hazardous than e-cigs" ?

What lab could do such a thing?

It would be deadly dangerous to make a statement like that without lab proof, but WITH lab proof, it would be fun to watch them try to fight it!

This sounds like an awesome idea. Too bad no media source will ever print it
 

Elnroth

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 10, 2012
3,923
5,934
Philadelphia
Well I can confirm here in South Georgia they don't give a rats ***, vaped in the store this morning along with my wife, didn't get asked to stop so least some people are using common sense.

Being enforced our not. It still makes a statement to the public about the "harm" associated with second hand vapor :(
 

NorthOfAtlanta

Ultra Member
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2011
1,616
3,582
Canton, GA
Well I can confirm here in South Georgia they don't give a rats ***, vaped in the store this morning along with my wife, didn't get asked to stop so least some people are using common sense.

Doesn't go into effect until June 1st, see what they say then.
 

DC2

Tootie Puffer
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 21, 2009
24,161
40,974
San Diego
Since second-hand vapor is less harmless than french fries vapor, and possibly in the same neighborhood as other food, milk, and coffee vapor, is there any chance we could take a sample of Starbucks air to a lab that has already analyzed e-cig second-hand air, and find out if we could truthfully start a national campaign saying "Starbucks air is more hazardous than e-cigs" ?

What lab could do such a thing?

It would be deadly dangerous to make a statement like that without lab proof, but WITH lab proof, it would be fun to watch them try to fight it!
I really like how you think.
 

bunnomatic

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 10, 2013
687
740
Conway,SC
I am torn on policies like this. On the one hand I don't want some AH blowing his/her vapor around me when I am sitting down to eat and on the other hand I don't want to see every store that has nothing to do with the food and beverage industry ban vaping because the fast food joint down the street did it. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should so some common sense and consideration to the people around you needs to be given or everybody will be banned everywhere. Anyway that's my :2c: worth on this subject.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread