High quality mech's are all that I seriously collect. They seriously deliver.
Knowledge is power.
Good luck.
Knowledge is power.
Good luck.
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I was a decent shot when young. Haven’t touched a firearm in like 20 years though. Weirdly my knowledge about them is somewhat more current. Mostly about military small arms. I had a roommate once who was a former member of the 82nd airborne and liked to play pen and paper RPGs. Specifically modern military ones. He filled me full of 90’s era military small arms knowledge primarily for his own purpose. He wanted a GM. Me I didn’t mind. Guns are fascinating tools. They’re extremely heavily optimized for particular functions. It’s life and death after all. They’re almost a kind of art. The ugly ones often even more than the pretty ones. I still find myself watching odd videos like “forgotten small arms” which is about weird and unusual firearms throughout history. Particular emphasis on French stuff.
As to school training: I like it too. The question becomes how many of the limited dollars and limited hours in a day can be used to teach kids before their brains metaphorically explode and what are THE most valuable things that can be taught since teaching everything is impossible. They’ve been reducing and reducing and reducing over the years in the public schools. The main difference between a top flight private prep school and a public school (I’ve been to both) was on the 70s and 80s merely class size, and the choices of what to teach. A private prep school according to my father, mostly taught the same format public schools had in the 1960’s.
The difference was small but the effect was huge.
By the time I had left the 8th grade I’d taken algebra 1, algebra 2, geometry, and pre-calc. Then I went to a parochial school who’s class sizes were still smaller than public school, but which was based on a current public school model. They had no ap math at all. I had to repeat everything. I effectively took no math in high school. They did have some required extras: bible class and business law. Both turned out to be useful in later life oddly enough. For bible class the useful bits (which could have been crammed into a couple of months of the 4 year program were basic philosophy and how to spot a cult. The latter one may have saved my life once.
In the prep school where I got to mix with the children of the terrifyingly wealthy, the extras were slightly different: philosophy, foreign languages, and real sports, And homework. Lots of homework. They made you do it too. There was a two hour evening study hall for boarders every day.
The most visible difference for me at the time was EVERYONE played sports. You were on a team, a that team competed. It didn’t matter if you were any good or not. You did it. Other schools for the children of the terrifyingly wealthy existed in the area and the ALL had this system, so there were competitive teams at all levels.
I don’t know why this was done specifically, but it appears the terrifyingly wealthy parents of these children were willing to drop what at the time was about the same cost as private collage tuition on it.
Sports are only for rich kids in public schools these days. Last I was involved all they had had was “gym” and they were trying to get rid of that.
I would say there are a few. They’re slightly physically smaller for a given power level, and they have a possibly much longer service life, though the jury is out and YMMV on that last one.
I for one think the advantages in no way even come close to exceeding the risks and requirements for new vapers though. I’ve considdered buying a multi battery one just for the vapeoccalypse section and possibly never using it. (All I’ve got are single battery tube mods) The things are so easy to make though. It’s not like they’re banning flashlights.
“You can’t find a single advantage in their use”? Really? I suggest you need to try one before you comment.
It might be true for him. There are straight up downsides as well. Ignoring all the safety stuff the “balloon” problem of constantly dropping voltage is not minor. Theyre also often ridiculously expensive, and they don’t vape any better. Plus more than a few VV mods have a “bypass” mode that lets them vape just like a mech anyway but you still get electronic safeties.
That's kind of odd. The high school in Sierra Vista has teams of all sorts good enough to get kids academic scholarships. Sometimes into community colleges (I had no idea that was a "thing" but still....)
My son's "school" (the first one) in Tucson had NOTHING. No gym, no arts, no recess. When I found that out I pulled him immediately and he was in Charter or Private schools until his first HS year, where he wanted to go public.
After a year, the kid was in so much trouble, I pulled him out and made him get his GED. He got "honors" in everything (also, I HAD NO CLUE that was a thing.) But also informed me he learned no math past what he was learning in 5th grade AT ALL in a Private Catholic school in Maryland....
That annoyed. He probably could have passed the GED when we GOT here. Etc. However, I think AZ is like 2 from the bottom, educationally..... It's really, really awful.
So, IDK. Thank God he's been an autodidact since day one. If he ever needs to pass calculus, he will probably do it on his phone, then go test out. Etc.
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My son's "school" (the first one) in Tucson had NOTHING. No gym, no arts, no recess. When I found that out I pulled him immediately and he was in Charter or Private schools until his first HS year, where he wanted to go public.
After a year, the kid was in so much trouble, I pulled him out and made him get his GED. He got "honors" in everything (also, I HAD NO CLUE that was a thing.) But also informed me he learned no math past what he was learning in 5th grade AT ALL in a Private Catholic school in Maryland....
That annoyed. He probably could have passed the GED when we GOT here. Etc. However, I think AZ is like 2 from the bottom, educationally..... It's really, really awful.
So, IDK. Thank God he's been an autodidact since day one. If he ever needs to pass calculus, he will probably do it on his phone, then go test out. Etc.
Anna
I think even the most avid ‘anti mech’ member can see there are some advantages over regulated mods. It may not be enough to tip the scale, but come on, there are clear as advantages in some areas even if you don’t use them.
I use both and like both. Ultimately, this is not a one size fits all situation. But the anti mech mentality does get a bit ridiculous sometimes. Seems we can’t have a discussion about mechs without someone feeling the need to use the phrase “pipe bomb”. Although I am an advocate for educating and warning members, those comments do not help.
Best hits I've ever had vaping came from mechs. I simply don't use them because I'm not detail oriented enough vaping regulated as it is. If I could afford a vape butler I would be adding mech boxes to my collection in a heartbeat.
I think there are advantages and I think they vape wonderfully with some knowledge.
Me and a mech on a daily basis would likely be fairly hazardous.
I also own a Noisy Cricket I which at this point having Read All About It, well I should probably give it away to the right person if there IS one.
However, not much entertainment probably down in the bunker. I'm sure it would be entertaining to fire up the Noisy Cricket like, down in the bunker with no internet or saved posts about Ohms law that I can perform but only with their aid.
Probably by candlelight, too.
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Me and a mech on a daily basis would likely be fairly hazardous.
I also own a Noisy Cricket I which at this point having Read All About It, well I should probably give it away to the right person if there IS one.
However, not much entertainment probably down in the bunker. I'm sure it would be entertaining to fire up the Noisy Cricket like, down in the bunker with no internet or saved posts about Ohms law that I can perform but only with their aid.
Probably by candlelight, too.
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Now I have no idea how long you will live, but IMHO at some point in time all cars will not only be some sort of electric car, they will also all be self driving. That is the direction I see things going. Sadly it is going to have to go that way because people are becoming more and more distracted while driving and causing accidents. That is probably 10-20 years away at a minimum though. Maybe even longer, but it is coming.
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This is really my #1 reason for not using a mech. I like consistency from the first vape to the last. To that end, I only use DNA based mods in TC mode. So I get fast ramp up, then smooth even consistent vapes from first to last that never over heats my juice.
Also good arguments against mechs but everyone has their own reasons for choosing one over the other. I am just glad that at this point we do still have freedom of choice.
i hit the exclamation point a little too enthusiastically while typing with the barrel of my revolver resulting in a hole in my keyboard and the desk. typing with mousekeys is time consuming. i'm throwing out these dangerous mechs !
2335 hrs local time and Heavens Above you are still all at it slugging away ... OMG this reminds me so of the Trinity Bar at the end of our street, ( which to our minds is "The Bar at the End of the Universe" ), when the famous ( locally anyway ) Billy Clamp has finished work for the day and he's ranting away at top volume to the amusement of the reprobates gathered therein.
Some nights it's Billy the Lawyer, others Billy the Financial Adviser, Billy the Breavement Councillor, Billy the Marital Guidance Expert, Billy the Car Buying Wunderkind, Billy the Free Trade Supremo ... all of which keeps the company amused as he never lets the facts get in the way of a good rant ... eventually Dianne his wife appears, has a bit yell at him, tells him him his tea is once again in the dog and takes him away.
Dianne where are you now - this thread needs you!
Oh, BTW we had a grand night out ... and my coil came out at, Heavens Above Again, 0.89 Ohms - see I tellt yez a,' I'm The Man for dangeroos things!
Thanks all for a good laugh on a wet day!
Some nights it's Billy the Lawyer, others Billy the Financial Adviser, Billy the Breavement Councillor, Billy the Marital Guidance Expert, Billy the Car Buying Wunderkind, Billy the Free Trade Supremo ... all of which keeps the company amused as he never lets the facts get in the way of a good rant ... eventually Dianne his wife appears, has a bit yell at him, tells him him his tea is once again in the dog and takes him away.
Dianne where are you now - this thread needs you!
Oh, BTW we had a grand night out ... and my coil came out at, Heavens Above Again, 0.89 Ohms - see I tellt yez a,' I'm The Man for dangeroos things!
Thanks all for a good laugh on a wet day!
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"That is the direction I see things going. Sadly it is going to have to go that way because people are becoming more and more distracted while driving and causing accidents. That is probably 10-20 years away at a minimum though. Maybe even longer, but it is coming."
Thankfully by that time I'll be dead, and if I get to go to the Purgatory I would really like, I'll be condemmed to drive my last beloved Austin Princess SUS 840 with her 2.5 litre engine running on 5 star, with but 4 forward gears and the ability to take away in 3rd, for ever and ever ... and if I have to drive in perpetual darkness - well i'll have four excellent headlamps and an infinitely adjustable driver's seat plus an excellent sound system to keep me amused!
Thankfully by that time I'll be dead, and if I get to go to the Purgatory I would really like, I'll be condemmed to drive my last beloved Austin Princess SUS 840 with her 2.5 litre engine running on 5 star, with but 4 forward gears and the ability to take away in 3rd, for ever and ever ... and if I have to drive in perpetual darkness - well i'll have four excellent headlamps and an infinitely adjustable driver's seat plus an excellent sound system to keep me amused!
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Kinda like cell phones and laptops
I use primarily mechs, not because of a machismo kind of thing but because I like the vape experience and I can pretty much keep them running forever with a quick trip to the hardware store.
I don’t see this full on anti-mech in all situations mentality myself. It’s the combination of old mechs and new batteries, or mechs and super sub ohm coils, or the combination of mechs and brand new users I find disturbing. When they all get put together at once though they are very disturbing to me. Especially when it’s trumpeted as somehow being “the best EVar!”
1. It’s not.
2. It’s going to get more people killed.
I'm 43. The wimmin (on both sides) seem to live into their 90s. So yeah, I plan on doing that too DESPITE the abuse I have heaped upon my body. Because I come from a LONG line of (practicing, I no longer practice) alcoholics so I've got the liver to do it.
My mommy is 77 and she just went and did "Hajj" last year, and like, she casually mentioned "I got sort of trampled this one time" and I was like. "Well. Mom, luckily for me I consider LIFE ITSELF the spiritual journey, but I'm glad you didn't get trampled too badly an remember it's only required ONCE."
She has a tesla. Before that she had a crazy BMW sports car and we all feared for her life and those around her.
She did not say much about the Tesla she just stated she missed her BWI even though the Tesla was "fine."
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