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I had a conversation today that I just *had* to come share here!
Stranger sees my ecig, asks if it's helpful, I respond it helped me quit a 20+ year habit, she said her husband uses one too, only he smoked *3* packs a day for over *30* years, AND he's been stepping down his strength until it's "almost nothing " now. Oh, and when are you going to quit using "that thing?"
What I said in my inside voice was: Um, I don't know you nor owe you an explanation, I was perfectly happy talking vaping with you until you started comparing me to someone who "did it better than me" and ...... me off!
What I said in my outside voice was: They'll have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers, have a great day! And walked away.
Why does it bother me so much?! Idk just wondering if anyone else hates this as much as me?
Stranger sees my ecig, asks if it's helpful, I respond it helped me quit a 20+ year habit, she said her husband uses one too, only he smoked *3* packs a day for over *30* years, AND he's been stepping down his strength until it's "almost nothing " now. Oh, and when are you going to quit using "that thing?"
What I said in my inside voice was: Um, I don't know you nor owe you an explanation, I was perfectly happy talking vaping with you until you started comparing me to someone who "did it better than me" and ...... me off!
What I said in my outside voice was: They'll have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers, have a great day! And walked away.
Why does it bother me so much?! Idk just wondering if anyone else hates this as much as me?
Yes. My mother started on that track just yesterday, when we went to visit her in the hospital. I just said "never." She kept on. I finally said, "vaping FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE is better than smoking EVEN ONE more cigarette, so if I have to vape for the rest of my life to avoid it, I WILL."
Andria
I don't get out much other than to work, doctors and grocery shopping, so I've yet to have an encounter with anyone about vaping. I agree whole heartedly with your response. How dare someone, especially a stranger, presume to know what's best for you? All I can say is YOU GO, GIRL!!! 
Wow. This is one subject I have been in and given a lot of thought to. I have been going into a teaching salon to get my hair done because it's so outrageously expensive to go to a regular salon. I have been going there for five years now and I know most of the supervisors there and I really like them and the others who work there.
Well, one day on a Saturday afternoon when I was the only client, I thought I'd just pull out my vape and sneak a drag and blow it into a kleenex so not to call attention to myself. Now, even though I was the only customer in there, this one supervisor came flying over to me in a tirade and started yelling that all smoking be done outside in the designated cigarette break area. She did not have to yell and order me, all she had to do was just tell me not to vape inside anymore and I never would have given it another thought. Instead, she came back with the company handbook that listed the rules of the salon. Wow! I was speechless and humiliated. All the rest of the time, she was across the salon staring at me from her station scowling at me. Then, she went out to the smoking area and lit up a Marlboro!
She had seen me there plenty of times over the years and I am extremely generous to the girls who are saving me a pile of money, so I believe in passing on the savings to the students. She also saw me lose over fifty pounds from ovarian cancer. I never mentioned the cancer to anyone, but it was obvious to some I was in a weakened state and looking like I had a chronic form of the flu. People can be sooo mean. I refused to allow her to ruin the pleasant relationships I had formed there with any of the people I had encountered over the years. Even after I was all done that day she kept looking at me as if for some kind of extended argument or response. All around her mouth were those smoking lines you get from puffing away. Gee. At the time I was not even using a nicotine product as I was vaping zero mg nicotine juice since my diagnosis.
I was happy with my hair that day and realized that it was her problem, and if she had not lashed out at me, it surely would have been someone else. I also realized she was the same size I was before I got sick and had a hysterectomy, oophorectomy, and removal of a 17 centimeter ovarian tumor. I value my salon so much that I just sent a thank you card to them with a letter expressing my gratitude because they had literally outdone themselves and I had not been feeling very well, so my hair really needed an overhaul ... big time!!! I have started expressing a positive gratitude practice and it is changing my life. I walk directly away from negative, toxic unnecessary behavior, and seek the positive, water it, and let it develop and grow at its own rate. I was so elated that one of the new teachers had stepped in to tutor the new student who did my hair color and cut that day, that she changed my life. I dressed better and took better care of myself because I went in there looking like a drowned rat, and she helped transform me back into my better former self!!!
My doctor and the team I work with were happy to see the real me coming back and without my oncologist and nurse oncologist, I never would have made it through all the surgeries. When I quit smoking, I really had no choice. Vaping was my last chance at life. My asthma was so bad that I was continually on steroids and constantly hungry. I was taking medication for the medication. When I went in for my first major surgery I had no trouble breathing and woke up feeling uncertain if they had even started the surgery yet -- lol! Wow, and then they had to replace most of my c-spine ... 4 disc fusions and a neck brace for six months. They go in through the front of the neck now ... laparascopic surgery, and move the vocal cords out of the way and replace the c-spine with either plastic or cadaver material, and the rest is titanium, and they build a cage around it to protect it. Every surgery went better than the surgeons thought it would. I could breathe, and I was way too scared to even be scared at all! It was like I entered a sacred meditative state where nothing could disrupt a deep, profound feeling of total confidence, trust and safety.
Okay, please excuse me going on and on! LOL! The truth is, I have barely mentioned this to anyone or ever written about it -- but I know for certain vaping saved my life and now I know why everything happened the way it happened. I can't explain it for anyone else, but had I been smoking, I would not have made it through no matter how skilled the surgeon. I owe this group. I lurked here way before I started vaping. And I had never heard of vaping until I found THIS forum!!!
You betcha it's open season on smokers and vapers, too! I think it is also open season on personal happiness, and when unhappy, vituperative people see happy, content people, it really upsets them.
Hey, my deepest thanks for taking the time to read my long post. Don't let the .......s bring you down! They have no idea what you have been through.
Well, one day on a Saturday afternoon when I was the only client, I thought I'd just pull out my vape and sneak a drag and blow it into a kleenex so not to call attention to myself. Now, even though I was the only customer in there, this one supervisor came flying over to me in a tirade and started yelling that all smoking be done outside in the designated cigarette break area. She did not have to yell and order me, all she had to do was just tell me not to vape inside anymore and I never would have given it another thought. Instead, she came back with the company handbook that listed the rules of the salon. Wow! I was speechless and humiliated. All the rest of the time, she was across the salon staring at me from her station scowling at me. Then, she went out to the smoking area and lit up a Marlboro!
She had seen me there plenty of times over the years and I am extremely generous to the girls who are saving me a pile of money, so I believe in passing on the savings to the students. She also saw me lose over fifty pounds from ovarian cancer. I never mentioned the cancer to anyone, but it was obvious to some I was in a weakened state and looking like I had a chronic form of the flu. People can be sooo mean. I refused to allow her to ruin the pleasant relationships I had formed there with any of the people I had encountered over the years. Even after I was all done that day she kept looking at me as if for some kind of extended argument or response. All around her mouth were those smoking lines you get from puffing away. Gee. At the time I was not even using a nicotine product as I was vaping zero mg nicotine juice since my diagnosis.
I was happy with my hair that day and realized that it was her problem, and if she had not lashed out at me, it surely would have been someone else. I also realized she was the same size I was before I got sick and had a hysterectomy, oophorectomy, and removal of a 17 centimeter ovarian tumor. I value my salon so much that I just sent a thank you card to them with a letter expressing my gratitude because they had literally outdone themselves and I had not been feeling very well, so my hair really needed an overhaul ... big time!!! I have started expressing a positive gratitude practice and it is changing my life. I walk directly away from negative, toxic unnecessary behavior, and seek the positive, water it, and let it develop and grow at its own rate. I was so elated that one of the new teachers had stepped in to tutor the new student who did my hair color and cut that day, that she changed my life. I dressed better and took better care of myself because I went in there looking like a drowned rat, and she helped transform me back into my better former self!!!
My doctor and the team I work with were happy to see the real me coming back and without my oncologist and nurse oncologist, I never would have made it through all the surgeries. When I quit smoking, I really had no choice. Vaping was my last chance at life. My asthma was so bad that I was continually on steroids and constantly hungry. I was taking medication for the medication. When I went in for my first major surgery I had no trouble breathing and woke up feeling uncertain if they had even started the surgery yet -- lol! Wow, and then they had to replace most of my c-spine ... 4 disc fusions and a neck brace for six months. They go in through the front of the neck now ... laparascopic surgery, and move the vocal cords out of the way and replace the c-spine with either plastic or cadaver material, and the rest is titanium, and they build a cage around it to protect it. Every surgery went better than the surgeons thought it would. I could breathe, and I was way too scared to even be scared at all! It was like I entered a sacred meditative state where nothing could disrupt a deep, profound feeling of total confidence, trust and safety.
Okay, please excuse me going on and on! LOL! The truth is, I have barely mentioned this to anyone or ever written about it -- but I know for certain vaping saved my life and now I know why everything happened the way it happened. I can't explain it for anyone else, but had I been smoking, I would not have made it through no matter how skilled the surgeon. I owe this group. I lurked here way before I started vaping. And I had never heard of vaping until I found THIS forum!!!
You betcha it's open season on smokers and vapers, too! I think it is also open season on personal happiness, and when unhappy, vituperative people see happy, content people, it really upsets them.
Hey, my deepest thanks for taking the time to read my long post. Don't let the .......s bring you down! They have no idea what you have been through.
I think the hairdresser's problem is that SHE can't do her thing indoors, so by golly, nobody else will either! Pure jealousy! If she ever says anything to you about it again, you really ought to point that out.
I love poking holes in the self-righteous.
ETA: also -- if you do it where she can't see it, she'll never know -- I vaped in my mom's hospital room sunday, and none of the periodic nurses had any idea.
Andria
I love poking holes in the self-righteous.
ETA: also -- if you do it where she can't see it, she'll never know -- I vaped in my mom's hospital room sunday, and none of the periodic nurses had any idea.
Andria
@FinallyQuit - I deal with that quite frequently and it bugs me too! I haven't figured out a snappy response yet, although I do like Lox's. 
@Vape Suzette - I don't think I've ever encountered a more positive person than you. I applaud your positive outlook on life, people and your own personal struggles. I don't think I could have come through all that and still be able see the good in everyone - even those who tried to bring me down. You are something special and deserve the best life has to offer. 
Many years ago shortly after moving to Philadelphia, I was at the store and an old man thinking he was being cute told me I'd live longer if I didn't smoke, and I turned to him and told him he'd live longer if he mind his own business.
II rarely see the good in people, but when I actually do, I make a small festival of it because it might become contagious! Ha-ha!
Many years ago shortly after moving to Philadelphia, I was at the store and an old man thinking he was being cute told me I'd live longer if I didn't smoke, and I turned to him and told him he'd live longer if he mind his own business.
Bwahahaha!!
I envy strong women...I need to work on that myself.
Years ago, before the no-smoke nannies got their way on EVERYTHING and it was still perfectly legal to smoke in stores, some old battle axe got in my dad's face about his smoking in a convenience store: "Don't you care that you're offending and harming "everyone"? she asks. My dad took a long puff on his smoke and blew it in her face, and said "Lady, if I don't care if I'm killing MYSELF, why the hell should I care if it kills YOU?"
Andria
Andria
Heh... he was a card. I sooooooooooooooo wish vaping had been around about 2-3 decades sooner, he might still be here.
He was a recovering alkie too, so he'd probably have been quite open to the idea of THR, and vaping.Andria
Since moving here to this hellhole part of the US after living in Cambridge/Boston for most of my life, a few of my acquaintances that I met here freaked out when I started vaping and the last time I had the misfortune of running into one of them, he could not believe I was still vaping -- as he was chain smoking at the time just as I had once done. They just don't get it.
No, I walk through these uneducated freak shows as if they truly do not exist, and it pisses them off something terrible. Especially since I have been able to hold my career together writing compositions that have been aired on NPR and PBS. As soon as I am well enough, I head back to my acoustic venues and live on the road for four to five months a year. I can hardly wait to get back to France and stay with musicians from Shakespeare and Company. They love American blues and jazz in Paris and my husband is fluent, whereas I just communicate through my music.
I was almost insane a few years ago over Christopher Hitchens. When he died of esophageal cancer I lost it. I used to take the red eye from Logan to DC to watch him lecture and he also lectured and debated in Cambridge quite often. Best atheist and contrarian we ever have had. I love Dawkins, Harris and the rest of them as well. And Neil deGrasse Tyson who studied with Carl Sagan has given me hope that the human race might continue to evolve. Might. I hope this small blue dot continues. I am living and waiting for the day we find life elsewhere.
Where we are living at the moment is one giant, uneducated REI store, filled with people who never read, are extremely racist, and appear to be inbred. Finding a Mensa out here in this Idiocracy is nearly impossible.
No, I walk through these uneducated freak shows as if they truly do not exist, and it pisses them off something terrible. Especially since I have been able to hold my career together writing compositions that have been aired on NPR and PBS. As soon as I am well enough, I head back to my acoustic venues and live on the road for four to five months a year. I can hardly wait to get back to France and stay with musicians from Shakespeare and Company. They love American blues and jazz in Paris and my husband is fluent, whereas I just communicate through my music.
I was almost insane a few years ago over Christopher Hitchens. When he died of esophageal cancer I lost it. I used to take the red eye from Logan to DC to watch him lecture and he also lectured and debated in Cambridge quite often. Best atheist and contrarian we ever have had. I love Dawkins, Harris and the rest of them as well. And Neil deGrasse Tyson who studied with Carl Sagan has given me hope that the human race might continue to evolve. Might. I hope this small blue dot continues. I am living and waiting for the day we find life elsewhere.
Where we are living at the moment is one giant, uneducated REI store, filled with people who never read, are extremely racist, and appear to be inbred. Finding a Mensa out here in this Idiocracy is nearly impossible.
Sounds a lot like my neck of the woods, here in GA. When I used to sit outdoors all the time (smoking of course
), I *ALWAYS* had a book, and I got so much "Yu shore doo reed alotta books... why you reed so much?" I finally started saying "Because I like to learn; you should try it sometime!" 
Damn buncha knuckle-draggers. Andria
Yeah, Andria, WTH is wrong with them??? I have never felt so nauseated lol! I just dunno how we are going to get out of here. I found out I need two more surgeries and am starting to lose it. I thought about that unhappy woman who is a supervisor at the salon and appreciated what you wrote a lot. But I just can't stand being a total misanthrope anymore. I'm trying to find new ways to cope with this place. There are some venues hiding out here and pot is now legal, but I would have loved that way before I got too old to be high all the time, ha-ha!!! I feel high from the drugs they have me on right now! They upped my thyroid medication to see if it would help stimulate my metabolism and help me lose a pound a week. So far, nothing, and I'm really sticking to a 1,500 calorie diet with no cheating. I had no idea a hysterectomy could cause me to gain over twenty pounds. When I smoked cigs I had no problems with losing weight and keeping it under control. Maybe I should start buying the nicotine liquid again instead of the zero mg juice.
Have people reported weight gain when they quit and started vaping? I have to starve myself in order to lose an ounce. I have wanted to start a blog for years because I love writing so much and I discover new things about myself when I write. I have never been so isolated from health problems before. I'm way past cabin fever. I'm entering cabin psychosis!!!!!! I have to work night and day on my song writing, guitar playing, and odd stuff I like to do. It keeps me sane. I like this forum a lot. Thanks for putting up with my labile moods!!! I really like thayamaxes avatar because it reminds me of Eddie and Patsy from AbFab -- but for the life of me, I can't remember who that is! Now I know I'm getting old. My mind is going.
Have people reported weight gain when they quit and started vaping? I have to starve myself in order to lose an ounce. I have wanted to start a blog for years because I love writing so much and I discover new things about myself when I write. I have never been so isolated from health problems before. I'm way past cabin fever. I'm entering cabin psychosis!!!!!! I have to work night and day on my song writing, guitar playing, and odd stuff I like to do. It keeps me sane. I like this forum a lot. Thanks for putting up with my labile moods!!! I really like thayamaxes avatar because it reminds me of Eddie and Patsy from AbFab -- but for the life of me, I can't remember who that is! Now I know I'm getting old. My mind is going.
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