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Hmmm I actually build all mine at 1.3 a 1.1 and it's perfect... Think it is based on preference and battery saftey is the first item anyone should learn of they are not using a vv or vw battery!
Ms. Sparkles,
It very much depends on the device and its "low resistance cutoff". Some regulated mods (including vg ego batteries) will fire at a lower resistance than other mods... but safe is normally 1.4 ish.
The short story is that not educating a new vaper and just building something that will make clouds is going to get someone hurt in the bank account at the very least... and cause an incident like Vape Blast in a very possible way. And doing so as someone who knows better is inexcusable, every single time.
/rant
It very much depends on the device and its "low resistance cutoff". Some regulated mods (including vg ego batteries) will fire at a lower resistance than other mods... but safe is normally 1.4 ish.
The short story is that not educating a new vaper and just building something that will make clouds is going to get someone hurt in the bank account at the very least... and cause an incident like Vape Blast in a very possible way. And doing so as someone who knows better is inexcusable, every single time.
/rant
I agree that the noob would need to know! And I could affect their opinion on using ecigs! You are correct sir!
Something I posted in a B&M thread tonight. Thought I'd share it here, since this is basically my "home" on ECF and y'all my "housemates." 
Ad interested in y'all's take on it.
I also have limited experience with B&M, but it didn't take me long to be able to "size up" a shop, usually within 5 seconds after walking thru the door (though I do keep an open mind because you can't always judge a book by its cover.
The most annoying to me (this type I have only heard about from several sources, never been yet) is the
1) Frat boy shop: "Brah, if you ain't vaping below 0.25ohms, you ain't a real vaper. PAAARRRRTTTYYYY!!!!!! CLOUDS ONLY!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOO HIT THIS BEER FUNNEL ....!!!!!" Usually, they either know how to roll low res coils but know nothing about safety, or they roll a crazy low res coil for a customer who knows nothing about safety. I don't condemn clouds. I sub-ohm myself. But the core vaping community is "find the vape that YOU are comfortable with." Not like this type, who are "party-....-vape or you are just a n00b." Esp facepalm-worthy when they take this attitude with a veteran.
2) Head/smoke-shop shop: "We sell everything else you can inhale, so we stock e-cigs, too. We have a limited selection of gear we have almost no knowledge about, and we stock awesome flavors like tobacco, apple and menthol from a vendor you probably never heard of. The juice we sell comes in low, med and high nic strength." 'Nuff said.
3) Bandwagon/fad shop: The owner of this place knows more about retail than vaping. Which I don't condemn. The owner may/may not have hired people with sufficient knowledge about vaping. However, that doesn't matter because they know, will talk to you about and seek to make a sale only about product they have in stock. You may/may not be able to sample the juice they carry. They usually carry low-to-mid range juice (in terms of quality of flavor). they MIGHT even carry a few gourmet-tier flavors. It's a storefront trying primarily to cash in on the "vaping fad". I don't condemn this, either. I have even bought from places like this, but it is what it is.
4) The Vaper's Vape Shop*: Yes, all business is about making money, but these people decided to make money doing something that they love. There is vast knowledge there, either because of the hours spent in research or the hours spent talking to and exchanging information with customers/fellow vapers. They will carry entry-level as well as advanced gear, and they don't mind referring you somewhere else if they think a product they don't carry might better suit you. They may carry simple flavors, but most of their selection is multi-layered gourmet juices. And they are so happy to showcase the flavors they carry that they don't mind abandoning the sample tanks and pulling out a bottle for dripping, should someone with a dripper walk in, saying, "here, try this flavor in your dripper, because some of the background notes in this juice get lost in tanks and carts."
They also want their shops to be the equivalent of a bar for vapers. Half of their real estate is dedicated to a sitting area, because they WANT loitering vapers. They are happy even if you are just there to hang out, take some toots and talk vaping. They understand the community, because they are part of the community. They support you finding your own vaping path and help you to get there with any information they can share. It's like a B&M version of ECF.
I know I haven't really commented on the "price" issue, yet. But, after being in a number 4, after the dude spent 2 hours just letting hang out, talking to me and letting me "sample" his stock the whole time (basically vaping the store's juice the WHOLE time for free asking nothing non-stop), i went ahead and bought some juice, batteries and my charger from him, knowing I could have gotten it cheaper online.
Anyways, in my experience, B&Ms usually fall into 1 of those 4 categories, or maybe somewhere in-between on rare occasions.
*I didn't realize there was a vape shop called this. I didn't mean to refer to this entity in particular. 'i have never been there, so I cannot say what kind it is. I simply meant for #4 to refer to vape shops that are run by true vapers themselves.
Ad interested in y'all's take on it.I also have limited experience with B&M, but it didn't take me long to be able to "size up" a shop, usually within 5 seconds after walking thru the door (though I do keep an open mind because you can't always judge a book by its cover.
The most annoying to me (this type I have only heard about from several sources, never been yet) is the
1) Frat boy shop: "Brah, if you ain't vaping below 0.25ohms, you ain't a real vaper. PAAARRRRTTTYYYY!!!!!! CLOUDS ONLY!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOO HIT THIS BEER FUNNEL ....!!!!!" Usually, they either know how to roll low res coils but know nothing about safety, or they roll a crazy low res coil for a customer who knows nothing about safety. I don't condemn clouds. I sub-ohm myself. But the core vaping community is "find the vape that YOU are comfortable with." Not like this type, who are "party-....-vape or you are just a n00b." Esp facepalm-worthy when they take this attitude with a veteran.
2) Head/smoke-shop shop: "We sell everything else you can inhale, so we stock e-cigs, too. We have a limited selection of gear we have almost no knowledge about, and we stock awesome flavors like tobacco, apple and menthol from a vendor you probably never heard of. The juice we sell comes in low, med and high nic strength." 'Nuff said.
3) Bandwagon/fad shop: The owner of this place knows more about retail than vaping. Which I don't condemn. The owner may/may not have hired people with sufficient knowledge about vaping. However, that doesn't matter because they know, will talk to you about and seek to make a sale only about product they have in stock. You may/may not be able to sample the juice they carry. They usually carry low-to-mid range juice (in terms of quality of flavor). they MIGHT even carry a few gourmet-tier flavors. It's a storefront trying primarily to cash in on the "vaping fad". I don't condemn this, either. I have even bought from places like this, but it is what it is.
4) The Vaper's Vape Shop*: Yes, all business is about making money, but these people decided to make money doing something that they love. There is vast knowledge there, either because of the hours spent in research or the hours spent talking to and exchanging information with customers/fellow vapers. They will carry entry-level as well as advanced gear, and they don't mind referring you somewhere else if they think a product they don't carry might better suit you. They may carry simple flavors, but most of their selection is multi-layered gourmet juices. And they are so happy to showcase the flavors they carry that they don't mind abandoning the sample tanks and pulling out a bottle for dripping, should someone with a dripper walk in, saying, "here, try this flavor in your dripper, because some of the background notes in this juice get lost in tanks and carts."
They also want their shops to be the equivalent of a bar for vapers. Half of their real estate is dedicated to a sitting area, because they WANT loitering vapers. They are happy even if you are just there to hang out, take some toots and talk vaping. They understand the community, because they are part of the community. They support you finding your own vaping path and help you to get there with any information they can share. It's like a B&M version of ECF.
I know I haven't really commented on the "price" issue, yet. But, after being in a number 4, after the dude spent 2 hours just letting hang out, talking to me and letting me "sample" his stock the whole time (basically vaping the store's juice the WHOLE time for free asking nothing non-stop), i went ahead and bought some juice, batteries and my charger from him, knowing I could have gotten it cheaper online.
Anyways, in my experience, B&Ms usually fall into 1 of those 4 categories, or maybe somewhere in-between on rare occasions.
*I didn't realize there was a vape shop called this. I didn't mean to refer to this entity in particular. 'i have never been there, so I cannot say what kind it is. I simply meant for #4 to refer to vape shops that are run by true vapers themselves.
Something I posted in a B&M thread tonight. Thought I'd share it here, since this is basically my "home" on ECF and y'all my "housemates."
I also have limited experience with B&M, but it didn't take me long to be able to "size up" a shop, usually within 5 seconds after walking thru the door (though I do keep an open mind because you can't always judge a book by its cover.
The most annoying to me (this type I have only heard about from several sources, never been yet) is the
1) Frat boy shop: "Brah, if you ain't vaping below 0.25ohms, you ain't a real vaper. PAAARRRRTTTYYYY!!!!!! CLOUDS ONLY!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOO HIT THIS BEER FUNNEL ....!!!!!" Usually, they either know how to roll low res coils but know nothing about safety, or they roll a crazy low res coil for a customer who knows nothing about safety. I don't condemn clouds. I sub-ohm myself. But the core vaping community is "find the vape that YOU are comfortable with." Not like this type, who are "party-....-vape or you are just a n00b." Esp facepalm-worthy when they take this attitude with a veteran.
2) Head/smoke-shop shop: "We sell everything else you can inhale, so we stock e-cigs, too. We have a limited selection of gear we have almost no knowledge about, and we stock awesome flavors like tobacco, apple and menthol from a vendor you probably never heard of. The juice we sell comes in low, med and high nic strength." 'Nuff said.
3) Bandwagon/fad shop: The owner of this place knows more about retail than vaping. Which I don't condemn. The owner may/may not have hired people with sufficient knowledge about vaping. However, that doesn't matter because they know, will talk to you about and seek to make a sale only about product they have in stock. You may/may not be able to sample the juice they carry. They usually carry low-to-mid range juice (in terms of quality of flavor). they MIGHT even carry a few gourmet-tier flavors. It's a storefront trying primarily to cash in on the "vaping fad". I don't condemn this, either. I have even bought from places like this, but it is what it is.
4) The Vaper's Vape Shop*: Yes, all business is about making money, but these people decided to make money doing something that they love. There is vast knowledge there, either because of the hours spent in research or the hours spent talking to and exchanging information with customers/fellow vapers. They will carry entry-level as well as advanced gear, and they don't mind referring you somewhere else if they think a product they don't carry might better suit you. They may carry simple flavors, but most of their selection is multi-layered gourmet juices. And they are so happy to showcase the flavors they carry that they don't mind abandoning the sample tanks and pulling out a bottle for dripping, should someone with a dripper walk in, saying, "here, try this flavor in your dripper, because some of the background notes in this juice get lost in tanks and carts."
They also want their shops to be the equivalent of a bar for vapers. Half of their real estate is dedicated to a sitting area, because they WANT loitering vapers. They are happy even if you are just there to hang out, take some toots and talk vaping. They understand the community, because they are part of the community. They support you finding your own vaping path and help you to get there with any information they can share. It's like a B&M version of ECF.
I know I haven't really commented on the "price" issue, yet. But, after being in a number 4, after the dude spent 2 hours just letting hang out, talking to me and letting me "sample" his stock the whole time (basically vaping the store's juice the WHOLE time for free asking nothing non-stop), i went ahead and bought some juice, batteries and my charger from him, knowing I could have gotten it cheaper online.
Anyways, in my experience, B&Ms usually fall into 1 of those 4 categories, or maybe somewhere in-between on rare occasions.
*I didn't realize there was a vape shop called this. I didn't mean to refer to this entity in particular. 'i have never been there, so I cannot say what kind it is. I simply meant for #4 to refer to vape shops that are run by true vapers themselves.
The two nearest me are a #1 and a semi-#4 -- the only time I go in the one that fits the #1 profile is if I need more Pipe Sauce, because they carry it, and at the same price as online. And the last time I went in there, I was astonished that they actually remembered me, I'd been in there so little before. As I become a more experienced vaper, that place is growing on me... a little. At least I don't feel like the total ignorant noob that I did the first couple times I went in there. And I know enough now about my own preferences that even if they started hounding me about doing sub-ohm, I would just calmly say no thank you.
The semi-#4 is my favorite, just cuz the guy who runs it is really nice, really fun to talk to, with a great sense of humor, who doesn't mind a bit if vapers hang out and kibbitz at his juice bar. He's not like a "vape expert" -- in fact I put him on to rayon wicks, when I first tried them and was all excited about it -- but he's knowledgable enough to help newbies get started, and do it well and wisely. I don't buy any of the juice lines he sells anymore, and most of his prices are a bit on the high side of retail, with just a few exceptions. But now and then I drop in to see if he's got any new juice I haven't tried yet, and just to touch base with a vaper who helped me a lot when I first got started -- the folks at that #1 shop near me looked at my beginner's eRoll with perfect disdain, but my semi-#4 guy was very welcoming and encouraging, from the very start.
Andria
It is neat that you can draw from both. More important that you have a #4 to go to.
It's weird that I always seem to be at the turning point of things. Like I always come into smthg @ the end of 1 era and the beginning of another.
Born in 81, I know what it was like to have to play outside and survive w/ minimal electronics. But my brain was still young enough to grasp all the tech when I was REALLY exposed to computers as a young adult. One foot in the last generation; one foot in this one.
Same w/ vaping. When I 1st got into it end of 2011, 99% of the community (including newcomers) were all of the same mind/sub-culture. Everyone followed the laid-back, ready-2-help, find-your-own-path foundation laid by the veterans. They didn't care if all you had was a cigalike, because all the 1st generation vapers got along fine for a long time w/ just the old 3 pc atty system. eGo was really the big thing, the bandwagon most vapers were on. You would run into those vapers w/ a little more means carrying a provari or a mech w/ a genny tank attached, but they didn't care if you just had a cigalike or an eGo. Just happy you found a way to stop smoking.
Now, there just seems to be an element in the new generation (and a trend I fear taking hold) of the "this way is better"/"let's measure our mods to see whose is longer" mindset. It's not quite the whole of the new gen, but it is a strong element. Also, I see other things in some of the FB groups that show me the community is changing and evolving in different ways quickly. It just seems like I got in at the end of the golden age and see the changes take root leading us into a silver age. Perhaps that also is over as well and we are rocket-speeding into a modern age.
You know you are getting older when you start giving "back in my day" speeches, which I realize I have just done. Really not meaning to complain, just observations. I def see a lot of the "old school" still alive, strong and well here at ECF, which is why I stopped following FB groups and journeyed back here. Also, this thread.
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ROFL! I was born in *61* -- so the IBM PC was not introduced till 2 yrs AFTER I graduated high school!
I dunno if you recall those "pocket calculators" that were roughly the size of thick paperback books, but we were not even allowed to have those in school -- if anyone saw you with one, they were immediately confiscated! I got involved with PCs in 1989, when my son was about 7 months old and I really needed something mentally-challenging to do, to occupy myself during all those naptimes -- I always joke that PCs saved me from soap operas and Harlequin romances, and that's the literal truth. I had barely even heard of e-cigs until last summer, when a friend of my husband's gave me a Fin to try out; hated the taste, so he recommended Njoy, which had a much better throat hit but still tasted pretty bad. But it wasn't until January of this year that I really got interested in them, because I was so dang tired of freezing my bits off, out on the porch; I had tried just smoking out in the garage, on really cold days/nights, but the smell lingers so, I could even smell it in the house, so that was out. I started as so many do, with cigalikes, because I really thought that cigarette form-factor was essential -- but it only took about 2-3 wks for me to realize that all the folks here were right, they really just didn't cut the mustard -- so on the very day that was my first smoke-free day, my vv3 I had ordered came in the mail -- and suddenly it was a whole new ballgame!I'm told that one of my favorite vape gear items is already "old hat" -- my cartotank -- but I really couldn't care less; yes I have a couple of Kayfuns, and finally got a little dripper that I like, an Igo-S, but my Smok UDCT gives me such good flavor from my blueberry muffin/banana nut bread mix, I expect I'll keep vaping with it until single-coil cartos really are a thing of the past. Let's just all hope that the FDA doesn't go completely bananas and hand the whole industry over to BT with their "open-system ban" recommendations.
Andria
ROFL! I was born in *61* -- so the IBM PC was not introduced till 2 yrs AFTER I graduated high school!
I'm told that one of my favorite vape gear items is already "old hat" -- my cartotank -- but I really couldn't care less; yes I have a couple of Kayfuns, and finally got a little dripper that I like, an Igo-S, but my Smok UDCT gives me such good flavor from my blueberry muffin/banana nut bread mix, I expect I'll keep vaping with it until single-coil cartos really are a thing of the past. Let's just all hope that the FDA doesn't go completely bananas and hand the whole industry over to BT with their "open-system ban" recommendations.
Andria
i'm actually surprised. you carry yourself like a 1st gen vaper. maybe it's just a maturity thing. a lot of 1st gen vapers were 30+. then again, until the last cpl years, ecigs weren't in the limelight. so maybe was a matter of mature ppl realizing they weren't immortal searching alternatives/ways to stop stumbling onto ecigs. i know i was trying to get off analogs. if i were a decade younger when i heard of ecigs, i would have probably been all "i dont need that crap. i'll just quit smoking when i'mm ready. i can quit any time i want." now, they are in the limelight, popular and even a bit "rebel" (bcuz of FDA /society backlash)
i dunno. i hope i am not coming off critical. and a lot of my observations are just that - my own observations, not based on any real numbers. and prob skewed by my own limited exposure. i don't know every vaper, after all. for all i know, these elements may have always been there, just maybe i had more exposure to those i regard as "1st gen" vapers.
if i am mistaken, i am sure open to another perspective
I dunno; I started smoking in 1975, and started trying to quit in 1984. Tried again in '87, when I was pregnant with my son, managed only to cut down to about 3-4 a day. After I got sober in '92, after about 8 months I got the "purity" bug, and tried again, with a patch, and that lasted maybe a week; tried again a couple yrs later, again with a patch, and again it lasted about a week. After that, I pretty much gave up the idea of ever quitting, though I did cut down from 3 pks a day to about a pack a day, or less, if the weather was cold. After my dad died in '06 from lung cancer, I started thinking about it again, but I just couldn't see any way of doing it that didn't entail grievous suffering, both for me AND my husband who has to live with me.
Then when e-cigs came into my consciousness, I thought, hmm. Then last summer got that gift, and my thinking started turning more and more to the idea of e-cigs instead of real ones, or maybe e-cigs could let me cut down even more. No one was more surprised than I, when it turned out I could actually quit smoking without much trouble at all, thanks to e-cigs. Truly, I never thought I would be able to quit.Andria
I love hearing these stories! I'm not a 1st gen vaper but I probably got in on the 2nd wave. I stuck around through some pretty fun times, including that blue fish aquarium filter stuff in cartridges (anyone remember those?) and then tossing the cartridge in favor of dripping (which I totally sucked at!!) and then cartos and then cartos in tanks, and finally found comfort in clearo's, but only the bottom coil kind. And tried my hand at rebuildables and rebuilt cheap evod /t3 heads just because I could, and that doesn't count the string of batteries and types of devices from ego to (I can't remember the name dammit!!!) something that looked like a very fancy cigar. Tiny stealth vapes, giant in-your-face vapes, and even girly pretty vapes.
The thing I keep returning to is the workhorse. Something reliable, long lasting, powerful, with just enough but not too much fiddle factor.
I love a Vamo with an 18350 and a Kanger MT3S. Nothing fancy, but I've used them long enough they don't confound me anymore. I would probably have quit vaping more often than I did, if I hadn't settled on this equipment.
DIY eliquid, plus a few really good store bought ones from time to time. Nicotine level high, because every time I taper down I wind up smoking again. A preference for certain types of flavors, so at least I'm in the right ballpark when trying new stuff, and you all can have the fruit stuff I can't be satisfied by no matter how delicious it is.
A willingness to "switch" instead of "quit" is what turned my head around. I didn't want to quit. I knew I needed to but I really did not want to. Apparently if you want it bad enough it's easy to give up, but I never in my life wanted anything as bad as I wanted a cigarette. Sorry but true. I said repeatedly "it's not the same but it's better than going cold turkey" and when I finally realized there is NO replacement for a Newport 100 (box please!) and stopped searching for the holy grail and accepted "good enough" instead of "perfect replica."
Wow, wall of text. Sorry!! Stepping off soapbox now.
The thing I keep returning to is the workhorse. Something reliable, long lasting, powerful, with just enough but not too much fiddle factor.
I love a Vamo with an 18350 and a Kanger MT3S. Nothing fancy, but I've used them long enough they don't confound me anymore. I would probably have quit vaping more often than I did, if I hadn't settled on this equipment.
DIY eliquid, plus a few really good store bought ones from time to time. Nicotine level high, because every time I taper down I wind up smoking again. A preference for certain types of flavors, so at least I'm in the right ballpark when trying new stuff, and you all can have the fruit stuff I can't be satisfied by no matter how delicious it is.
A willingness to "switch" instead of "quit" is what turned my head around. I didn't want to quit. I knew I needed to but I really did not want to. Apparently if you want it bad enough it's easy to give up, but I never in my life wanted anything as bad as I wanted a cigarette. Sorry but true. I said repeatedly "it's not the same but it's better than going cold turkey" and when I finally realized there is NO replacement for a Newport 100 (box please!) and stopped searching for the holy grail and accepted "good enough" instead of "perfect replica."
Wow, wall of text. Sorry!! Stepping off soapbox now.
Nobody was more surprised than me that I was able to switch to vaping after smoking for 42 years, working my way up to nearly 4 packs a day. It took me 3 tries over the course of 4 years to do it, but it's the end result that matters. I remember the blue aquarium foam and pyramid tea bags, although I never used them. I started with an 808 cigalike because the cartridges looked like a lot of work and mess. That didn't last long, but the next time I tried the egos were all the rage. That lasted a little longer, but still didn't work out for me.
I don't know why or how I was finally able to succeed other than the fact that the equipment has improved so much in the last 4 years. More power and better flavor has helped me a lot. I started with a couple of Zmax mods and an eRoll to get through the times when I just really needed the feel of a cigarette. I moved to an MPV3 and then powered up to a Sigelei 20W. I also started to rebuild when I moved from the ProTank to a KFL+. Wow, what a difference! My go to now is a Cana DNA 30 and the new iStick 20W (even though I rarely go over 12 watts) both topped with the KFL+. I've found that I really like the box mods and the tube mods don't get much use.
I can't imagine myself going back to smoking, but never say never. I can actually be with a smoker and not crave a cigarette. I know, I can't believe it either.
I don't know why or how I was finally able to succeed other than the fact that the equipment has improved so much in the last 4 years. More power and better flavor has helped me a lot. I started with a couple of Zmax mods and an eRoll to get through the times when I just really needed the feel of a cigarette. I moved to an MPV3 and then powered up to a Sigelei 20W. I also started to rebuild when I moved from the ProTank to a KFL+. Wow, what a difference! My go to now is a Cana DNA 30 and the new iStick 20W (even though I rarely go over 12 watts) both topped with the KFL+. I've found that I really like the box mods and the tube mods don't get much use.
I can't imagine myself going back to smoking, but never say never. I can actually be with a smoker and not crave a cigarette. I know, I can't believe it either.
I have my cartotank on a Vamo -- I love the thing; even with 3 vv3's, an ARO Winder 900mAh, a Sigelei zmax v3, and a really nice mech, I do believe the Vamo is my favorite! I got it in that black chrome "gun metal" color, to match my cartotank and drip tip.
But I tried to get an MT3S into my Vamo, and it won't fit -- is yours one of the newer ones with the removable top cap? I just have the V2, cause it was DIRT cheap. I thought that about fruit flavors for a long time, and even now, I still keep my Virginia handy, in one of my Kayfuns, and another really smoky tobacco/coffee kind of flavor in the other Kayfun... but after I have a few hits on the Virginia, like after meals, more and more it's been tasting just... bleah! so I grab my blueberry muffin again, and ahhhhh it's soooo good! It probably helps a lot that blueberry muffins are my FAVORITE!!! snack that I don't dare eat because I won't stop till I gain 30 lbs -- vaping it is calorie free and STILL tastes that good!
Andria
Nobody was more surprised than me that I was able to switch to vaping after smoking for 42 years, working my way up to nearly 4 packs a day. It took me 3 tries over the course of 4 years to do it, but it's the end result that matters. I remember the blue aquarium foam and pyramid tea bags, although I never used them. I started with an 808 cigalike because the cartridges looked like a lot of work and mess. That didn't last long, but the next time I tried the egos were all the rage. That lasted a little longer, but still didn't work out for me.
I don't know why or how I was finally able to succeed other than the fact that the equipment has improved so much in the last 4 years. More power and better flavor has helped me a lot. I started with a couple of Zmax mods and an eRoll to get through the times when I just really needed the feel of a cigarette. I moved to an MPV3 and then powered up to a Sigelei 20W. I also started to rebuild when I moved from the ProTank to a KFL+. Wow, what a difference! My go to now is a Cana DNA 30 and the new iStick 20W (even though I rarely go over 12 watts) both topped with the KFL+. I've found that I really like the box mods and the tube mods don't get much use.
I can't imagine myself going back to smoking, but never say never. I can actually be with a smoker and not crave a cigarette. I know, I can't believe it either.
<--- Waving madly at Thaya!!! Hey Thaya, how you been?
I have my cartotank on a Vamo -- I love the thing; even with 3 vv3's, an ARO Winder 900mAh, a Sigelei zmax v3, and a really nice mech, I do believe the Vamo is my favorite! I got it in that black chrome "gun metal" color, to match my cartotank and drip tip.
I thought that about fruit flavors for a long time, and even now, I still keep my Virginia handy, in one of my Kayfuns, and another really smoky tobacco/coffee kind of flavor in the other Kayfun... but after I have a few hits on the Virginia, like after meals, more and more it's been tasting just... bleah! so I grab my blueberry muffin again, and ahhhhh it's soooo good! It probably helps a lot that blueberry muffins are my FAVORITE!!! snack that I don't dare eat because I won't stop till I gain 30 lbs -- vaping it is calorie free and STILL tastes that good!
Andria
Well, let's see here. I bought a 2G(?) Vamo that has room for a T3/Evod, but the bottom tended to get stuck in there and need pliers to get it out. Then I got a 5G (?) with the removable trim around the top. I was sent a 1G(?) from a wonderful friend on this thread, that doesn't have room for the T3/Evod, but I use it for dripping to taste test when I'm in mad scientist mode. Yep, it's gunmetal too!
Your blueberry muffin sounds divine, yum, but I bet I would smoke after finishing a tank full. . .I'm weird!
I broke my little Itazte, very upset about it, but I'm notoriously hard on stuff, dropping from pockets and out of purses onto pavement and tile floors, etc. So it served well while I allowed it to live. The Vamo just never dies. . .
I'm doing fine, FQ. SSDD (same
different day). Glad to hear that you're doing better. I really miss the old crew and the speed of this thread where you could barely keep up with the posts. I never had to leave this thread to keep busy. Now I've had to branch out to other threads, though I don't post nearly as much as I used to. Has anyone heard from Lori or Karen? I hope they're okay.
That gunmetal is gorgeous, isn't it? I can already see, on the bottom, that the black-chrome finish does wear away, but so far it's just the bottom that has that problem; when I stick it in my purse, I have this little chamois bag that once held sunglasses, and now keeps my Vamo from getting scratched by misc. oddments in my purse. I figure, if it does get "blotchy" from the finish wearing away on the visible part, I'll get a wrap for it; I've seen some REALLY nice Vamo wraps!
I'm considering a Vamo v6 at some point, because of being able to program the shut-off time, instead of being stuck with the 10-second shut-off. I wonder if those top caps are removable?
As for the non-tobacco flavors... I think you just have to go with whatever suits *you* best. I really never thought I'd want anything but the taste of the Virginia, so like my cigarettes; I did start getting "other" flavors pretty early on, but at first, yeah, they didn't really satisfy me, and after a couple puffs, back I'd go to the Virginia -- and even now, when I sometimes get that "hmm a cigarette would be really good right now" feeling, it's the Virginia I turn to. It's come as a total surprise to me, that the Virginia I once thought was the be-all and end-all, now quite often tastes horrible to me -- which is the real beauty of vaping: if one flavor begins to pall, just find another!
But, I do fiddle with the blueberry a good deal -- mix in a little banana nut bread for a trace of that flavor, lately been adding "blueberry pancakes" WTA, and I also use about 4% (of total mix) of some PG I mixed up at 12mg nicotine and 4% "Flash" additive, since the fruity flavors don't have much TH, but I really need that, to be satisfied. The TH still isn't as good as the Virginia, but the Flash adds just enough that it does satisfy.I've dropped all 3 of my iTastes repeatedly, but so far the only thing I've broken is a lot of driptips. But, to me that's one of the benefits of the vv3, it's so inexpensive; if I break one, it wouldn't be that difficult to get another. I got my Vamo for $17 from "Vapor Break," but I had to wait what felt like forever for it to get here from China -- it got stuck in that NYC incoming place for over a week! (took less than a week to get to NYC from the other side of the planet, then gets stuck at NYC for nearly 10 days! AARGHH!). Maybe it's because the Vamo (and my Sigelei, which I've also never dropped) are fatter than the vv3's, that I don't drop them; better grip. But it's good to hear from another Vamo lover, especially about them being durable; I hear a lot of trash talk about Vamos, which I really don't understand. I've been delighted with mine since I got it.
Andria
Andria, I just saw this in the Deals and Steals thread. Vamo 6 Express Kit $39.95.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/418767-deals-steals-60.html#post14366991
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/418767-deals-steals-60.html#post14366991
Vamo lovers unite!! Fast tech has the V5 with the groovy lines for around $26 if you don't mind the wait. . .
*Sigh* I just ran the budget for tomorrow's payday, and all I can afford right now is ejuice, cartos, and some flavors I'm getting from WizLabs, so I can start trying to mix up something blueberry muffinish and stop paying for pre-made juice. I finally managed some DIY Virginia that I quite liked, but now that I don't vape the virginia much, I need to try and learn this blueberry flavor. So, no hardware budget, probably for a while; *next* payday has to provide the $75 fee for my asthma checkup in November. *sigh* Maybe xmas.
Andria
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