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raitizz

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Just to derail quickly again: couldn't those living in many EU countries just buy handguns from countries with laxer gun laws (or bigger black market) and have them sent via courier or surface mail?

Just 7 weeks of use has caused my spring to look a little stained and the surface to become more pitted. It certainly doesn't strike me as being able to last in top condition for years. I wonder how long SM expected the spring to last or for how long they field tested it?

The thing is the evaluations and paperwork, if you want to keep a gun.

Give it time, there is no way one oring is going to stop eliquid from getting into the chamber with the spring. Not to mention condensation is just as bad as eliquid given how poor connections+current+moisture don't play well together.

This thing vapes too good (all about the deck, juice feeding, and new bell) to have such design flaws - the performance issues that is really holding it back from being GREAT...

Yep. Let's see, what SM comes up with.

Why? Because our forefathers fought and died against a tyrannical empire. To keep this from happening in the future they gave us the right to keep and bear arms.

I don't understand your "gun-pride in the socials" comment so I can't address that.

I meant in the social networks, pics of people with their firearm collections etc.
Nevermind...

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I didn't mention what i discovered this morning.
Saw my k4 was sitting wonky. Wasn't straight. After tinkering around found my p3 is bent at the top. The top plate isn't sitting straight because of the top.

Please can any one advise what to do before i damage it further by me attempting to fix it?

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Can anyone notice the 1mm gap?
This the other side which is fine:

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Looks like the impact knocked it loose. I'd send it in for repair. Kind of surprising since you only dropped it from your lap. Considering its a Provari, I'd expect it would take a fall from the Empire State Building to cause damage like that.
 

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This. Cops get killed over here all the time. They are very cautious.



Why? Because our forefathers fought and died against a tyrannical empire. To keep this from happening in the future they gave us the right to keep and bear arms.

I don't understand your "gun-pride in the socials" comment so I can't address that.

I can think of some places in the world right now where the civilians wished they had second amendment rights. :)
 

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I can think of some places in the world right now where the civilians wished they had second amendment rights. :)

True enough. All I know is that if a cop pulled me over and I reached down to pick up ANYTHING, I can fully expect to get filled with lead and die right there in the street. That would be my full expectation. Hands on the wheel, or hands up and visible at ALL times, no matter what, always, or you can expect to die that day. That's one of the trade offs for having everyone armed in this country. I do like my guns though.
 

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Well I don't want to derail the thread even more but here, politicians were smarter. They didn't ban or tax ecigs but as of January 1st, all e-liquids are taxed at 0.60€ per milliliter.

100ml costs 60€ right now just in taxes (about US$70)

Time to stash up fast over here :(

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Is this in Portugal? This is terrible and I am very sorry to hear it. Hopefully there is a way to buy zero nic liquid and add your own nic somehow.

No to sound sarcastic, but perhaps if everyone was armed in your country and you had a second amendment, then you could defend your untaxed e-liquid by staging a full blown armed assault against your government. That's what the US second amendment is for, right? To defend all the other rights and prevent tyranny?
 
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True enough. All I know is that if a cop pulled me over and I reached down to pick up ANYTHING, I can fully expect to get filled with lead and die right there in the street. That would be my full expectation. Hands on the wheel, or hands up and visible at ALL times, no matter what, always, or you can expect to die that day. That's one of the trade offs for having everyone armed in this country. I do like my guns though.
It's a trade off i suppose. You like guns or are allowed them you have to compromise on something. In the UK you're not allowed guns. Someone attacks you in the house or harms you, you can harm them back but you'll get charged with assault. EVEN though it could be self defence.
It's a weird but beautiful world we live in where someone can break in to your house fully aware that they are ILLEGALLY trespassing. Something happens to them then the household is suddenly responsible.
Unsure if you heard the robbery story's here. Gangs of 5-6+ thieves break in with machetes, guns, all sorts of weapons and hold you hostage and tie you up and torture you untill the find gold, watches, money, all valuables.
Police can't do a thing, as they are in and out and leave ZERO finger prints.
Hence i have steps in place like full security system and alarm system linked to police. Still won't stop them but atleast it's something.

Just recently at one of my sites had a armed robbery. 3 lads broke in armed with shotguns and huge samurai type machetes looking for money. Luckily both of the cashiers were unharmed. They stole cigarettes and money but atleast no one was harmed which is the main thing.

I am in the UK sending it back will take ageeees. I though a metal sheet or similar placed on top with a hammer lightly would help.
It won't fix back in to place by pushing, tried it.
It's on a hybrid kayfun adaptor otherwise it would have damaged more. It fell tip down so the weakest point was damaged, which in this case was below the p3 connection. Shows how resilient the kayfun actually is!
It's just dislodged a tiny bit. Vapes fine etc but just annoying to look at!

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Is this in Portugal? This is terrible and I am very sorry to hear it. Hopefully there is a way to buy zero nic liquid and add your own nic somehow.

No to sound sarcastic, but perhaps if everyone was armed in your country and you had a second amendment, then you could defend your untaxed e-liquid by staging a full blown armed assault against your government. That's what the US second amendment is for, right? To defend all the other rights and prevent tyranny?

Here's a bit about it.

And, c'mon, solving problems with guns...

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Is this in Portugal? This is terrible and I am very sorry to hear it. Hopefully there is a way to buy zero nic liquid and add your own nic somehow.

No to sound sarcastic, but perhaps if everyone was armed in your country and you had a second amendment, then you could defend your untaxed e-liquid by staging a full blown armed assault against your government. That's what the US second amendment is for, right? To defend all the other rights and prevent tyranny?

As Moonbogg pointed out, yes this in Portugal. However, the cliche of all this is that I can grab my phone, call pink-mule (spain) ang get 100ml of 18mg nic for 5.89€ a bottle and have it delivered in about 24h at my doorstep.

Result? "Foreign" companies thrive while our local ones are forced to shut down because they have to sell the same liquidi for AT LEAST 60€ taxes + whatever cost they had making it + whatever profit they want to put there + 23% VAT... you won't find a 100ml for under 100€ here.

So in the end, a) they won't getting much money out of this because people aren't stupid and will order from a neighbor country b) The stores selling liquids nationally will close their doors and c) those who won't buy eliquid from another country and can't afford the hefty price tag nationally, will return to tobbaco.

Great... :(
 

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Looks like the impact knocked it loose. I'd send it in for repair. Kind of surprising since you only dropped it from your lap. Considering its a Provari, I'd expect it would take a fall from the Empire State Building to cause damage like that.

I'll be damned, and I stand corrected: The engagement of 2 threads at the P3 connection is strong enough to destroy the Provari top-cap!

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I'll be damned, and I stand corrected: The engagement of 2 threads at the P3 connection is strong enough to destroy the Provari top-cap!

:rolleyes:

lol, totally true though, right? It almost makes me think that this is a major downside to such a beefy connection. A 510 is a weak link with lots of wobble and tends to give when dropped, or might even break. But this thing? Forget it. Nothing gives until something important breaks, in this case it was the damn tube mod itself.

Regarding the issue of the bent top cap, I am thinking it just skipped a thread from being forced when dropped. Like he mentioned, a light tapping with perhaps a wooden spacer would be ideal to try and pop back in place. I wouldn't try it with a metal sheet though. Try a wooden spacer and tap it with a hammer gently IF that's how you want to try to fix it.
 
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I've noticed some of the prices for goods in the EU, where vaping is taxed, are quite high compared to the US.

Here in Australia, the sale of nic is illegal, but importation for personal use is generally not. Even where it may be illegal by state law, it is not under federal law or enforced by customs. Yet.
So people either buy juice from OS vendors, or locally made doublers or triplers, and add their own pg / vg and imported nic. Which is a pity, as not only would I support local business if something could be bought locally for a competitive price. But many smokers would have the exposure to, and availability of, vaping, accessories, and ejuice.

But with Dutch laws changing for the worse, and the current anti vaping push by the Californian government, I wonder whether vapers in many countries will begin to have their rights restricted.

Gun crime is minimal here in Aus, due to the difficulty in obtaining handguns, but I pity Aus in the event that citizens ever need some arms to stand up for their rights. Sure, a zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, invasion by another country, or draconian unjust laws passed by a corporate (or other) controlled government are probably unlikely. But if people needed to fight, what are we going to do? Use a few swords that nobody can proficiently use? Baseball bats? Cricket bats? Boomerangs? Build mangonels? A few single shot hunting rifles?
Ok. I joke. But the question on how the citizens of this country could defend themselves if ever needed is a valid one.

I'm actually liking the 0.6ohm parallel coil more. Still a little to hot and moist, but it's definitely making some (though not all) flavours stand out in different ways. I'm thinking about 0.9-1 ohm next.
 
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