Yeah, they are quick. Mine should be here Friday as well.
SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)
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I had downloaded the file as soon as it was published on their site which is what I was using even though I didn't have the Ti wire until recently, so I would fall into the "early adopter" category. I re-flashed with it today, even went back to 1.4 and then back to 2.23 and had the same results. I then downloaded the firmware from their site again, and again reverted back to 1.4 then back to this new download of 2.23 and again same results so I doubt it has anything to do with the software as far as changes or corruption or anything. I then updated my other Sxmin M that has only been upgraded to 2.2 previously and it too seems quite jumpy and requires much higher temp settings than I'm used to as well. Also all the coils I've built have come in at the appropriate resistances according to Steam Engine so I really don't think it has anything to do with the wire I'm using.
I'm currently vaping it at 19j, 540 deg. with a .236Ω single coil and it's alright but I do feel it cut out power time to time due to it hitting the temp limit settings I assume. Raising temp up to 565 alleviates that but that makes me think I'm not really doing temp limiting any longer and just reaching the max temp my setup is able to reach. At this point I think I'm just going to stick with ni200. I don't notice any flavor difference between the two wires and have had no problems with ni200 to speak of. I'll probably wait until the final firmware release before trying Ti again. Thought about trying out my temp meter but that sounds like a ton of work, work I'm to lazy to take on as ni200 has really worked well for me so really no good reason for me to change that I can see at this point.
No, I don't think that would be it since I wasn't an early adopter and other than needing about 60F more, it is smooth as silk for me. Liking the flavor too. Just incredible flavor at that.
I just built my first dripper using Ti and loving that also. It is the Mutation X v4 dual coil build. I made it with 2-3.5mm coils which probably became about 4mm after winding with all the springy effect of the Ti. 7/6 spaced wraps using my SpiderSilk 26ga and it came out to around .202 ohms. Using SteamEngine it said that I should have .178 ohms with this build but this atty may be giving some additional resistance.
The vaping on this Mutation X v4 is really good with such incredible airflow through the bottom and/or the sides. Very flexible design but I am finding the bottom air channels hitting the coil and closing off the side airflow the best. Even with the side air flow shut down I am still only using 2 of the 3 bottom air holes (the largest ones) and still plenty of air for a full lung hit. I am again in vaping heaven and the room is filled with vapor.
BTW... I can only get the temp maxed out as high as 476F from 26J to 32J so I am using it at 28J. It is a slightly warm vape with these numbers and the mod is on the hot side.
In a little while, after taking a few more hits on this dripper, I will vape the half tank I have left in my Lemo 2 and then rebuild it with Ti. With the Lemo 2 I can do a good comparison between NI200 and Ti since I am most familiar with that tank and about 2 months of NI200 vaping.
No, I don't think that would be it since I wasn't an early adopter and other than needing about 60F more, it is smooth as silk for me. Liking the flavor too. Just incredible flavor at that.
I just built my first dripper using Ti and loving that also. It is the Mutation X v4 dual coil build. I made it with 2-3.5mm coils which probably became about 4mm after winding with all the springy effect of the Ti. 7/6 spaced wraps using my SpiderSilk 26ga and it came out to around .202 ohms. Using SteamEngine it said that I should have .178 ohms with this build but this atty may be giving some additional resistance.
The vaping on this Mutation X v4 is really good with such incredible airflow through the bottom and/or the sides. Very flexible design but I am finding the bottom air channels hitting the coil and closing off the side airflow the best. Even with the side air flow shut down I am still only using 2 of the 3 bottom air holes (the largest ones) and still plenty of air for a full lung hit. I am again in vaping heaven and the room is filled with vapor.
In a little while, after taking a few more hits on this dripper, I will vape the half tank I have left in my Lemo 2 and then rebuild it with Ti. With the Lemo 2 I can do a good comparison between NI200 and Ti since I am most familiar with that tank and about 2 months of NI200 vaping.
Do you have a Subtank Mini JimSxotty0? I'd be curious if you built a 5 wrap 26g on a 7/64 mandrel at around .235Ω what your settings would be at if you do.
My money would go on bad wire, mislabeled wire, or Ti grade 2. But that would only be a crap shoot of a guess at this point.
Yep, me too! I can't wait until Friday! This mod is looking abused.
Yes I do have one and can do that. The only difference between us would then be the wire since I only have the SpiderSilk at this point.
That'd be great if you get a chance. Let me know what you end up with on Temp at 19j, .235Ω. My juice is 70/30 vg/pg if you want to try to make it as close as possible
My juice is right around there too so it should be close. I am using a 2.5mm coilmaster but it will expand a bit to get it to the 2.78mm which is what the 7/64 should be. Just washed out the tank and getting ready to wrap it.That'd be great if you get a chance. Let me know what you end up with on Temp at 19j, .235Ω. My juice is 70/30 vg/pg if you want to try to make it as close as possible
BTW... My Kangertech Mini and the RBA is the original one and not one of the newer models that is out there. I don't think it would be too much of a difference though. Is it?
Mine are the 2 slot newer ones but I've not seen a difference in the static resistance between the older and newer ones I've received. So it should be pretty close from my experience.
Out of 11 of them I've only had one that was bad and it read .05 high and they replaced it. I am really anxious to see how it comes out. My Unkamen was delivered yesterday to where we are going and I'm going to be using it on an STM also. 26 awg you are using 5 wrap spaced coil right Vlad.
yea 26g, 5 wrap spaced on 7/64 mandrel is what I've been trying.
Well after dry wicking it is reading .253 ohms, but I am sure it will drop after juicing and firing it. I will recalibrate it once it breaks in after a little while and it cools down again.
Here is a look at it before putting the sleeve on. I am now vaping on it and setting temp & joules.
Here is a look at it before putting the sleeve on. I am now vaping on it and setting temp & joules.
Ok, I need to vape it for a while to let it break in but so far I am liking a warm vape at 460F using 18.5J which seems about right for me and not have the temp jump around much. I am seeing it get to around 456F to 460F and holding very steady. Smooth and stable so far in Ti mode.
I will let it sit and then re-calibrate after 15 mins.
I will let it sit and then re-calibrate after 15 mins.
Really appreciate you doing that and letting me sidetrack you from your evening vaping.
That's a sign you're probably not going to have the same problems I'm having. If it's holding a stable temp that low that's not similar to what I see. On mine I seem to have a hard time keeping it under anything below about 550 without it bouncing a lot or hitting temp limiting constantly. I'm puzzled by this at the moment. About the only other thing I can think of to try is a different wire.
It is my pleasure Vlad, that is what we are here for to help each other understand this technology. I checked it again after about 18 mins and it was at .248 ohms but the mod was still slightly warm with all the heavy vaping I had done. I will let it settle in a few mins more and check it again.Really appreciate you doing that and letting me sidetrack you from your evening vaping.
That's a sign you're probably not going to have the same problems I'm having. If it's holding a stable temp that low that's not similar to what I see. On mine I seem to have a hard time keeping it under anything below about 550 without it bouncing a lot or hitting temp limiting constantly. I'm puzzled by this at the moment. About the only other thing I can think of to try is a different wire.
I would suggest you give the SpiderSilk a try for only $15 I think it would be worth it to see the differences in wire if that is the issue. We both received our mods within a few days of each other and with the same factory date if my mind serves me and the setup I used is very close to yours. My ejuice is my own DIY which was at 73% VG and is about a week old after a few hot baths and lots of machine shaking so it is ripe and ready. I have been using it on my Zephrus and on my Lemo 2, and today on my Mutation X v4 so I know how I want it to taste and vape. I will say that I am finding the dual coil Zephrus the best vape so far with just tons of flavor. This DIY is so much better than almost anything store bought and I am in the baby steps of making ejuice so I promised myself that I will no longer buy pre-made ejuice. So much more expensive and by far not as tasty.
Ok, with all this rambling it is now cool to the touch and is at .246 ohms where I think it will stay. It looks like 465F with 16.5J is my sweet spot with a slightly warm vape. I am now seeing a little more temp jumping up as high as 478F but if I bring down to 10J, which is pretty low, it is more stable. I don't see this with my other tanks and never go below about 22J these days so maybe it is the atty. I will finish up this tank tomorrow morning and report back.
That'd be great if you get a chance. Let me know what you end up with on Temp at 19j, .235Ω. My juice is 70/30 vg/pg if you want to try to make it as close as possible
I am 70/30 too with a 5 wrap 26awg in a subtank mini at 3mm around 0.265 running 17j
Only difference really is my wire is a touch longer and am running slightly lower in joules
Might be worth dropping joules to see if its just fighting tp
Was surprised how little power I need to run this as would hit the same build with kanthal with upto 40w
Wowzers Gents! Whole lot of Field Testing and Investigation last night. Thanks for doing and sharing the Results.
Vlad: Guess you have de-Bunked the "Bad Install" Suspect. Thanks as I was going to give it a try tonight but now, ainta gonna waste the Effort. Tis what it Tis out of the box it would seem.
Jim: Appears although yours is running a tad more stable (a tad bit), it is still obviously not "right" or as one would expect it to be given known Parameters of Normal. Different in the quirkiness but "off" and anomalous none the less. Running high Temp and low Joules to get an acceptable Performance and still twitchy. Not poo-poo'ing at all just saying.
In the end, the Ti builds on various Devices and using Wire from various Sources yields proper Resistance and it is staying steady on Device over time and usage as one would expect from Steam Engine Calc.
So, not the Wire or the Attys it is safe to conclude.
Also safe to eliminate the Juice.
Safe to also Count out the SX itself as these same Devices and Builds are running fine, dandy, stable, and as they should when SX is on Ni200 Profile. Only at about 100-120* F lower than it would if we were running the Ti on a properly performing Device and Firmware. But that is an already proven and accepted "tweak" one must do in any such Situation on any Device as concluded by the Ti Master's previously at the start of Ti for Vape.
All seems to be in the Coding, Calculations, Performance and Application of the Ti Test Algorithm as that is the Only Real Factor left.
Actually, isn't that obvious and to be expected as that truly is the Primary Cog in this Ti Machine. Unless it's performing to a "T", the rest can be perfect and it will still be problematic. Hardware fine-new Software not so. Pretty much a standard Story right.
The fact that it's Issues are manifesting differently is not a vindication of the Test Firmware in the least.
That is somewhat a normal occurrence in these things.
Occam's Razor at its finest proving itself once again.
We seem to have gone around the Block to get to the Kitchen so to speak.
But, I could be wrong in all the above. Just makes Sense to me.
I'm gonna stick with Ti as I like it a lot. And, I'm gonna let the Test run its Course for YiHi and they can identify the issues, correct the Issues, refine the Algorithm, and release a Final Version. Then give that a Spin and hope for the best.
Till then, I'll just run Ti on the Ni200 Profile and enjoy the tasty Vapes and not worry about it in the least.
Tired of sweating it. It's a Test after all. It has Issues. Imagine That.
Vlad: Guess you have de-Bunked the "Bad Install" Suspect. Thanks as I was going to give it a try tonight but now, ainta gonna waste the Effort. Tis what it Tis out of the box it would seem.
Jim: Appears although yours is running a tad more stable (a tad bit), it is still obviously not "right" or as one would expect it to be given known Parameters of Normal. Different in the quirkiness but "off" and anomalous none the less. Running high Temp and low Joules to get an acceptable Performance and still twitchy. Not poo-poo'ing at all just saying.
In the end, the Ti builds on various Devices and using Wire from various Sources yields proper Resistance and it is staying steady on Device over time and usage as one would expect from Steam Engine Calc.
So, not the Wire or the Attys it is safe to conclude.
Also safe to eliminate the Juice.
Safe to also Count out the SX itself as these same Devices and Builds are running fine, dandy, stable, and as they should when SX is on Ni200 Profile. Only at about 100-120* F lower than it would if we were running the Ti on a properly performing Device and Firmware. But that is an already proven and accepted "tweak" one must do in any such Situation on any Device as concluded by the Ti Master's previously at the start of Ti for Vape.
All seems to be in the Coding, Calculations, Performance and Application of the Ti Test Algorithm as that is the Only Real Factor left.
Actually, isn't that obvious and to be expected as that truly is the Primary Cog in this Ti Machine. Unless it's performing to a "T", the rest can be perfect and it will still be problematic. Hardware fine-new Software not so. Pretty much a standard Story right.
The fact that it's Issues are manifesting differently is not a vindication of the Test Firmware in the least.
That is somewhat a normal occurrence in these things.
Occam's Razor at its finest proving itself once again.
We seem to have gone around the Block to get to the Kitchen so to speak.
But, I could be wrong in all the above. Just makes Sense to me.
I'm gonna stick with Ti as I like it a lot. And, I'm gonna let the Test run its Course for YiHi and they can identify the issues, correct the Issues, refine the Algorithm, and release a Final Version. Then give that a Spin and hope for the best.
Till then, I'll just run Ti on the Ni200 Profile and enjoy the tasty Vapes and not worry about it in the least.
Tired of sweating it. It's a Test after all. It has Issues. Imagine That.
Think we're all just a tad spent & burnt from the Marathon yesterday and ready to just sit back and enjoy this Beast as-is for a while.
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