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Anyone using a new style STM (with the rba Mini + section with the holes in it?)

I had three STMs when they first came out earlier this year. I sold them/gave them away, as I could never get a good connection with any of my TP mods using the rba section. Resistance on my coils should be right around .19ohms, on the STM they jumped all around between .3 and .4. Not good. Tried shimming to make a more solid connection, adjusting the grommets, tightening the center pin to the base, etc. and could never get a solid connection.

I recently purchased one of the new STMs (the flat white with the new RBA section) thinking that they would have these issues worked out by now ... no go. On my SX Mini M, my Vapor Flask, my Protovapor XPV40 ... same thing. Resistance jumping everywhere, so poor connection. I really want to like the STM!! Any tips/pointers?

The build deck that came with my original ST was nearly 1mm. shy of contacting the ST base. The replacement base and deck gets good contact on my SX Mini and one of my SX350 mods. It doesn't read on my two rDNA40s nor one of my SX350 mods and only makes intermittent contact on another SX 350 mod with fluctuating resistance. Good contact seems to depend on the length/spring strength of the 510 connector on the mod.

Pre-built Ni200 OCC heads from three packages all make good contact for me but other people have reported connectivity issues. It sounds like Kanger has not stepped up their QC with the new ST regarding solid connections. :( You might want to check with your vendor.
 

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Coming in July...

Do you actually read this as being official anywhere?

Just jumped on the Ti bandwagon a few days ago. Even vaping it right now on the Sx, but actual support for it would be pretty sweet (kinda figured they'd sell us out and try to cash in again with a new mod. SX T Class or some crap).
 

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The build deck that came with my original ST was nearly 1mm. shy of contacting the ST base. The replacement base and deck gets good contact on my SX Mini and one of my SX350 mods. It doesn't read on my two rDNA40s nor one of my SX350 mods and only makes intermittent contact on another SX 350 mod with fluctuating resistance. Good contact seems to depend on the length/spring strength of the 510 connector on the mod.

Pre-built Ni200 OCC heads from three packages all make good contact for me but other people have reported connectivity issues. It sounds like Kanger has not stepped up their QC with the new ST regarding solid connections. :( You might want to check with your vendor.

Thanks all for the replies on the STM.

Of the four I've tried, all give resistance issues. All of them also came with a loose positive pin on the RBA deck. After trying to clean/tighten everything up as best as I can, they still jump all over the place ... replacement coils do the same thing. Oh well. I'll stick with my Lemos, still love em!
 

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...It sounds like Kanger has not stepped up their QC with the new ST regarding solid connections. :( You might want to check with your vendor.

Sounds to me like business as usual for Kanger. Build something great, get great reviews and sell like crazy, start on next project and drop all QC on current product (and farm it out to incompetent companies?).

I remember posting something like that back in the T3 days. The clearos that I cut my teeth on for rebuilding simply because they were so inconsistent with the coils - and later the tanks themselves. They got my attention when I started reading about these STMs with RBA decks, but I decided to wait and see. Naw. I don't foresee any Kanger products in my future.
 

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Anyone using a new style STM (with the RBA Mini + section with the holes in it?)

I had three STMs when they first came out earlier this year. I sold them/gave them away, as I could never get a good connection with any of my TP mods using the RBA section. Resistance on my coils should be right around .19ohms, on the STM they jumped all around between .3 and .4. Not good. Tried shimming to make a more solid connection, adjusting the grommets, tightening the center pin to the base, etc. and could never get a solid connection.

I recently purchased one of the new STMs (the flat white with the new RBA section) thinking that they would have these issues worked out by now ... no go. On my SX Mini M, my Vapor Flask, my Protovapor XPV40 ... same thing. Resistance jumping everywhere, so poor connection. I really want to like the STM!! Any tips/pointers?

I had the same issue with mine. The positive post on the rba base was not making good connection to the 510 when screwed in. I made a ring using some 26g kanthal, and put it arount the post, then re-inserted on the rba base. That made it just that much longer, and fixed everything. resistance is rock solid every time since then. Try it, it worked for me.
 

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For those Ti enthusiasts, Varitube "Onedesign1" posted this a bit ago.

The YiHi SX350 35W Chip at Varitube | Page 105 | E-Cigarette Forum

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Do you actually read this as being official anywhere?

Just jumped on the Ti bandwagon a few days ago. Even vaping it right now on the Sx, but actual support for it would be pretty sweet (kinda figured they'd sell us out and try to cash in again with a new mod. SX T Class or some crap).

Read? I'm using it!... With a few other nice options too ;)
 

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Hmmm I have't a clue what the problem could be. I have both full size and mini Subtanks and haven't had contact/resistance problems with multiples of each type on any mod.

I know that isn't helpful to you and I wish I could make a suggestion. Something definitely weird is going on.

Duane

I don't have any issues with subtanks either

In fact the opposite as they give the most consistent readings out of all my tanks

They are not keen on Ti Clapton coils Yet ... work in progress :)
 

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I don't have any issues with subtanks either

In fact the opposite as they give the most consistent readings out of all my tanks

They are not keen on Ti Clapton coils Yet ... work in progress :)
I don't understand the issues that others are having with Subtanks either but mine are all from some of the first days and they are the best tanks I have by a long way. Maybe the quality control isn't up to snuff now and if that's so then it's truly too bad because they can be great tanks. I'm glad I have mine.

Duane
 
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I don't understand the issues that others are having with Subtanks either but mine are all from some of the first days and they are the best tanks I have by a long way. Maybe the quality control isn't up to snuff now and if that's so then it's truly too bad because they can be great tanks. I'm glad I have mine.

Duane

Yeah think mine are first generation too

Only one air slot and juice channels for the rba deck instead of holes

Think I will get a new one to see if can find fault
 

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Ahh I see it is the RBA base with the holes in it I don't have any of those I have 5 extra RBA bases but none have the new holes in them. That is what you guys are talking about correct not the dual airflow bases. All mine are the older ones with the little tiny juice holes. Correct me if I am wrong but that is what you are talking about that have the problems the rba deck with the holes in the sides. Am I right or wrong please tell me I don't want to have any problems I am going on a month and a half vacation and don't want to find out this problem while I am away.
 

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Ahh I see it is the RBA base with the holes in it I don't have any of those I have 5 extra RBA bases but none have the new holes in them. That is what you guys are talking about correct not the dual airflow bases. All mine are the older ones with the little tiny juice holes. Correct me if I am wrong but that is what you are talking about that have the problems the rba deck with the holes in the sides. Am I right or wrong please tell me I don't want to have any problems I am going on a month and a half vacation and don't want to find out this problem while I am away.
The Subtank RBA's that work great for me are all the tiny juice holes/slots in the bottom. I don't have any with the big holes up near the coil.

Duane
 

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OK that little piece of kanthal looks like a great idea at first I though it was on the 510 pin on the base but now I see it is on the screw in pin on the deck. Great idea if it happens. I did get some extra bases for my STM's which I have 9 of and one of them had a static resistance that was .05 ohms higher then any of the others. It was not a connection problem and I told MVS about it and they sent another right out without even asking me to return the other. I told them all I used was NI and .05 was not accteptable with the SX since my coils are running around .069. I really like the one I built using 28awg 5 wraps at 2.5mm. In the STM it makes a lot of difference with the wicking. I was having occasional problems because the KGD swells and would clog the juice channels. It wasn't all the time but occasionally it would and would have to remove the top cap and pull the cotton up a little and squeeze it back. No problems like that with the 2.5 plus I am closer to the .065 recommended and seems to work very well.
 

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I've never taken this one out of the house....:)

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Limited Edition....:)

I don't know if new SX Mini owners have seen this so I'm posting it just in case.. If this is old news to you then please be patient. I am old.

I was going to do the double bagger on my SX Mini M and was looking for a wrap. Any SX Mini owners thinking of buying a Jwrap, (except those who have a custom designs like @Bikenstein) should note the following disclaimer from Jwraps

DISCLAIMER

SX Mini & SX Mini M class: Although we use high performance vinyl, adhesives are designed to adhere to objects. If the quality of the paint our vinyls are adhering to is not ideal, there is a possibility of paint removal. The SX Mini has a well known problem for its paint pealing off of the device within a short period of time regardless of whether it has a wrap installed on it or not. Prior to your purchase please understand for this particular device the wrap will cause the paint to peal once the wrap is removed. Jwraps is not liable for this issue.


Jwrap Designs

It looks like no double bagging for my SX Mini. I'll just buy the condom or let it run it naked.
 

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I think you'll be ok if you have the newest ones. I didn't know that before I wrapped my black one and the paint in the little space towards the upper part peeled off a little so I won't ever take it off. I am thinking of double bagging to just for the extra protection. Just remember what I said about the slight design change they made. Also the screws seem to be countersunk more but I am really happy with the Jwraps going to order 3 silicone sleeves from Ginger vapes. Been holding out for the YiHi ones to come out to see if they had a better design but still haven't seen one and we are going on vacation for a month or so and didn't want to take a chance on dropping it. The Jwraps are minimal protection but the carbon fiber look really nice.
 
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