TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance
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Why are ss316/317 not included? Are they better?
If I was allergic to nickel I'd use SS430, otherwise NIFe.
The chart is of wires that the vendor that made it sells.
Other than being a preset on some modern mods, I see no reason anyone would use 316/317 as the TCR is so freaking low.
I have a bunch of dual coil builds in current rotation/service that would not fit +1.0 ohm coils needed for a decent 316/317 +0.5 ohm resistance.
37AWG NiFe70 - now the challenge is to get a coil wound and wick'ed. Ought to work great for rebuilding those ittybitty atomizer heads.
The chart is of wires that the vendor that made it sells.
Other than being a preset on some modern mods, I see no reason anyone would use 316/317 as the TCR is so freaking low.
I have a bunch of dual coil builds in current rotation/service that would not fit +1.0 ohm coils needed for a decent 316/317 +0.5 ohm resistance.
37AWG NiFe70 - now the challenge is to get a coil wound and wick'ed. Ought to work great for rebuilding those ittybitty atomizer heads.
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Two reasons I believe. One is it's easy to get in vaping sized gauges, and two I believe most who use this wire think temperature limiting is temperature control. They don't have enough experience with temperature control to know 316/7 isn't providing a good temperature controlled vape.
That's too bad you even have TC in your nameI agree ^^^
Ive been down that road and personally I'm back on kanthal claptons as I'm not happy vaping anything in tc anymore
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Lol I knowThat's too bad you even have TC in your name
I'm still not completely dismissing it as I love my DNA200's but I'm yet to be happy with any wire available
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316 is readily available (in all imaginable gauges, premade specialty wire such as Clapton included), easy to work with, and works fine in tc. I have builds as low as .2 that work without issue. If a 316 build jumps out of tc that's most often due to a post screw being loose or some other contact problem.If I was allergic to nickel I'd use SS430, otherwise NIFe.
The chart is of wires that the vendor that made it sells.
Other than being a preset on some modern mods, I see no reason anyone would use 316/317 as the TCR is so freaking low.
I have a bunch of dual coil builds in current rotation/service that would not fit +1.0 ohm coils needed for a decent 316/317 +0.5 ohm resistance.
37AWG NiFe70 - now the challenge is to get a coil wound and wick'ed. Ought to work great for rebuilding those ittybitty atomizer heads.
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I disagree. I have plenty of experience with tc, more than a year with ni200, titanium, different grades of stainless steel. My preference nowadays is ss316, and it works just fine in tc. If not, it's commonly user error.
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It's not generally user error mate, it's the low TCR and certain devices not being capable of accurately gauging the minute rise in ohms.
Have you actually measured the temperature at the coil? What device/s are you using that it works fine?
The rise in resistance is generally lower with nickel, due to the lower initial resistance. If a device can handle nickel, it should be able to handle ss316. Generally, modern devices handle tc with 316 just fine.
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The first screen shot is SS316, the second one is Ni200.
The ss316 looks kind of level to me, might just be me though....
The ss316 looks kind of level to me, might just be me though....
Thanks for that, this needs to be under a "Why SS316 isn't great for temperature control " thread.The first screen shot is SS316, the second one is Ni200.
The ss316 looks kind of level to me, might just be me though....
Sure it works but not accurately on most devices.
I've never tried it and don't plan to. I've seen plenty of screen shot of others firing it.
Hey remember the G Plat wire being sold for $2 a foot when really it was just welding wire that was so cheap it was sold by the pound.
Do they still sell that stuff?
So far my experience with TC hasn't been very encouraging... SS316L is meh everywhere for me (except on mechs, that is), and even Ti doesn't bode well with the boards I own (oldish DNA40, cuboid/VTC mini, istick TC 60 and 100W)
Most of the problem is probably due to faulty implementations of the TC algorithms, the rest to sub-par wires (do we really know what materials are we being sold?); if anything I always get solid connection atom/mod, which on the other hand further enrages me for the lousy TC performance I get nevertheless.
I should probably get a recent DNA board, for a final test, or simply accept that TC doesn't float my boat. Not at this stage, that is.
Sorry about the rant [emoji16]
Most of the problem is probably due to faulty implementations of the TC algorithms, the rest to sub-par wires (do we really know what materials are we being sold?); if anything I always get solid connection atom/mod, which on the other hand further enrages me for the lousy TC performance I get nevertheless.
I should probably get a recent DNA board, for a final test, or simply accept that TC doesn't float my boat. Not at this stage, that is.
Sorry about the rant [emoji16]
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