The “Cola” Method Taken to Another Level That Works

[parapo]

i tried another 2x 901/RN atomizer in phosphoric acid 85%,

left them 24 hours,but i wasn't satisfied with the results this time.
vapor production was not improved,so i bend the bridge too look at the coil,
and it was still black and gunky.
also the paint from one atomizer peeled off.

then i used the heating H2O2 in-place method.

they got a bit better but they didn't clean as they should. (still blackish)
although the coil on both get's red instantly,vapor production is better,but they are still not useable.
the liquid feed to the coil is broken somehow and i get only a few puffs on a cart.

 

[ZambucaLu]

i tried another 2x 901/RN atomizer in phosphoric acid 85%,

left them 24 hours,but i wasn't satisfied with the results this time.
vapor production was not improved,so i bend the bridge too look at the coil,
and it was still black and gunky.
also the paint from one atomizer peeled off.

then i used the heating H2O2 in-place method.

they got a bit better but they didn't clean as they should. (still blackish)
although the coil on both get's red instantly,vapor production is better,but they are still not useable.
the liquid feed to the coil is broken somehow and i get only a few puffs on a cart.

I wonder if there's a point where they are just too far gone?

Lu

 

[exogenesis]

I think 85% is too strong, or at maybe least too viscous to allow
diffusion/bubble escape or whatever. I reckon 35% is probably better.

Was that using your 50% H2O2 , and the wick under the coil still stayed black ?

You'll just have to stop vaping Hammerite black paint.

Maybe as SambucaLu says, there's a point of no return,
guess that makes it even more important to do regular mainainence cleans.

Go my auto-smoker running again, this time with a more realistic set-up,
so far it's slowly smoked ~4ml of my 'junk' liquid (old flavour tests etc) & looking
like heavy hard baked-on carbon.
Will have to decide which cleaning method to try on it, when its done
10ml or so, or it ceases smoking properly.

 

[parapo]

I think 85% is too strong, or at maybe least too viscous to allow
diffusion/bubble escape or whatever. I reckon 35% is probably better.

Was that using your 50% H2O2 , and the wick under the coil still stayed black ?

You'll just have to stop vaping Hammerite black paint.

Maybe as SambucaLu says, there's a point of no return,
guess that makes it even more important to do regular mainainence cleans.

Go my auto-smoker running again, this time with a more realistic set-up,
so far it's slowly smoked ~4ml of my 'junk' liquid (old flavour tests etc) & looking
like heavy hard baked-on carbon.
Will have to decide which cleaning method to try on it, when its done
10ml or so, or it ceases smoking properly.

yes it was the H2O2 50%......

 

[trintek]

But with most models you can't see the coil except by destroying the atomizer,
but there's a model that has the bridge poking right out of the end & you can see
the coil easily, wish I could remember the name of it.

i know the dx ecigs (at least sku 18431) has a viewable coil, the bridge is an A-frame shape. i will see if i can find a supplier of an exposed coil atomizer next time i am looking for parts.

 

[kinabaloo]

Exogenesis - Good to hear you're new model auto-vaper is up and running

 

[exogenesis]

Thanks for that trintek, can't find a UK supplier tho, I think there's other similar models about.

Got to have my attic room Veluxe windows open all night & day to stop it stinking up the house,
(theres loads of different flavours in the liquid)
it's still going after 8ml, but it's beginning to slow down,
it's fairly obvious that the coke-coating stops the heating of the liquid as well as it did
when it was clean. Having to slow the feed rate now.

 

[surbitonPete]

Thanks for that trintek, can't find a UK supplier tho, I think there's other similar models about.

Got to have my attic room Veluxe windows open all night & day to stop it stinking up the house,
(theres loads of different flavours in the liquid)
it's still going after 8ml, but it's beginning to slow down,
it's fairly obvious that the coke-coating stops the heating of the liquid as well as it did
when it was clean. Having to slow the feed rate now.

Fantastic stuff exo....you are going well beyond the call of duty with our quest for the ultimate atomizer cleaner!........I

 

[mottlycrw]

Ok.. I tried the RC bath for an hour and half on a 401 atomizer and an 801 atomizer at the same time. Both atomizers were working perfectly, but with some resistance on the draw so I thought maybe its time to try the RC bath as a preventative maintenance measure. Anyway, after the bath, I thoroughly rinsed with water, blew them out and let dry overnight. in the morning, I re-primed with liquid and let stand for a bit, then tried vaping. The 401 atomizer works great, but my 801 now seems dead, and I cant revive it. On a few puffs, I got a very small trace of vapor, but now nothing at all again. Does anyone have any ideas or is this a lost cause?

 

[asta]

I'm new but I don't understand...."I then reprimed them" after the cleaning experiment...
could someone help me out?

thanks for all the great info.

 

[mottlycrw]

I'm new but I don't understand...."I then reprimed them" after the cleaning experiment...
could someone help me out?

thanks for all the great info.

By re-priming, I mean dripping with e-juice and letting it soak in for a few minutes before trying to vape.

 

[asta]

thanks, appreciate the info....

 

[bizzyb0t]

A model of atomizer that could work really well for checking the coil could be the JOYE306a atomizers. There's additional wicking under the bridge that can be taken out and you'll get a clear view of the coil.

 

[mottlycrw]

Ok.. I tried the RC bath for an hour and half on a 401 atomizer and an 801 atomizer at the same time. Both atomizers were working perfectly, but with some resistance on the draw so I thought maybe its time to try the RC bath as a preventative maintenance measure. Anyway, after the bath, I thoroughly rinsed with water, blew them out and let dry overnight. in the morning, I re-primed with liquid and let stand for a bit, then tried vaping. The 401 atomizer works great, but my 801 now seems dead, and I cant revive it. On a few puffs, I got a very small trace of vapor, but now nothing at all again. Does anyone have any ideas or is this a lost cause?

UPDATE: My 801 atomizer is working again. Apparently it had to sit with juice in it a while (about 2 hours) before it sparked back to life. All is well now.

 

[kinabaloo]

mottlycrw - good news

surprised full dry overnight was not enough; but 801 atomizer is a bit bigger than a 901 i think, so perhaps inside the coil was still damp.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

A model of atomizer that could work really well for checking the coil could be the JOYE306a atomizers. There's additional wicking under the bridge that can be taken out and you'll get a clear view of the coil.

Bizzy--you are right on point--a good atomizer design would have a bridge that is hinged so you could flip it to on side. And a coil that you could pull out and replace--just plug in a new coil--but then again we are just dreaming!!!! ----Sun

 

[kinabaloo]

But before you could open the hinge you'd have to get the insert out of the tube, so the insert would need plug and socket connectors. The metal wicking probably also needs replacing when the coil goes cold, so the whole insert should be replaced, which requires that it plugs into the atty tube for electrical connection. But the tube is probably cheaper to manufacture than the insert as the insert requires hand-construction.

 

[ZambucaLu]

I bought the nucalgon. Put it in a small bowl with 8 atomizers (that I had put off cleaning).....and put a lid on it. I did this 10PM Tues night and meant to remove them 10PM Wed night but forgot so did that 6AM Thurs.

It was disgusting!!! The solution was totally brown....and there was stuff floating around in there. There was no way I could ever reuse that.

I rinsed them really well under running water then put them in a covered cup of water to sit. I left them there for 24 hours. Took them out Fri morning, blew them out and set them to dry. So far no problems with the procedure itself.

I haven't tried them yet but am leaving for Buffalo for the weekend and will be bringing them with me. Will report back on it Monday.

And just FYI....I did not rinse or blow them out before I started.

Lu (with fingers crossed!)

 

[exogenesis]

What colour was the e-liquid that was not blown out ?
& presumably partly dried out in the metal mesh.
Were you using dark colours?

Just wanted to know if the colour in the acid could have been from
dissolving carbon, or from left-over e-liquid.

good luck btw

(also btw, I've had 3 removed coils in 40% phos.acid for about 2 weeks,
they're still totally black, but I guess if reconstructed they'd taste fresher
than when they went in)

 

[kinabaloo]

I just hope they're not all dead - what with you being a mod and all

A swish in distilled water before drying would be the absolutely best-practice, but don't worry, it shouldn't make a huge difference. Seems you got a lot out. But then there were eight of them!