the end of vapeing as we know it??

[EddardinWinter]

I've always wanted to do a poll asking if people ever got a "buzz" from nicotine, but I don't think the results would be valid.
I am convinced that not many people get a "buzz" from nicotine (even though some might) and that most mistake the carbon monoxide "buzz" as being from nicotine.

The simple fact that most electronic cigarette users don't get any kind of "buzz" says a lot.
But even that is confounded with the fact that most long-time smokers no longer get that "buzz" either, unless they haven't had a smoke in awhile.

When I think back to my first smoke, with the delectable Deirdre Domeyer, I remember a buzzing high. It was much later when I experimented with some gaseous entertainment frequently used as a propellant in dessert creams as an employee of Friendly's that I experienced a similar feeling. I did not make the connection until just now.

I think you are on to something, DC. That Oxygen 'meddling' could be more of the high than the nicotine.

Interesting...

 

[The Ocelot]

Still, a learned opinion if not a scientific one.

I think it you are probably right, I would phrase it, "most vapers vape too much for it to feel like a stimulant" but I get your drift. The rest is on point.

Well, at least that mutt you are raising will be smart. Did you get the check for June?

You caught me! I was struggling with that sentence for some reason.

And Jr. is fine. We are off to the bank as soon as his play-date with the human kid is over.

 

[DC2]

I think you are on to something, DC. That Oxygen 'meddling' could be more of the high than the nicotine.

I don't know that I'm onto something that hasn't been know for quite some time.
I thought it was fairly well-known that the carbon monoxide from smoking causes a "buzz" of sorts.

I think we do need to distinguish between the "rush" of the carbon monoxide buzz, and the general feeling of stimulation from a quick influx of nicotine.
And certainly, a cigarette generally provides a lot quicker influx of nicotine than electronic cigarettes do.

And as a side note... I want an ocelot.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I don't know that I'm onto something that hasn't been know for quite some time.
I thought it was fairly well-known that the carbon monoxide from smoking causes a "buzz" of sorts.

I think we do need to distinguish between the "rush" of the carbon monoxide buzz, and the general feeling of stimulation from a quick influx of nicotine.
And certainly, a cigarette generally provides a lot quicker influx of nicotine than electronic cigarettes do.

And as a side note... I want an ocelot.

True dat! I had never thought of it that way I guess is what I am trying to say. I need some tea.

You can want one, but they are not great pets. The Ocelot will tell you about it very soon. She knows about the smaller cats. We divide our areas of expertise at the "cheetah line".

 

[EddardinWinter]

You caught me! I was struggling with that sentence for some reason.

And Jr. is fine. We are off to the bank as soon as his play-date with the human kid is over.

It is not every day one catches an Ocelot! Just ask DC.

 

[The Ocelot]

I don't know that I'm onto something that hasn't been know for quite some time.
I thought it was fairly well-known that the carbon monoxide from smoking causes a "buzz" of sorts.

I think we do need to distinguish between the "rush" of the carbon monoxide buzz, and the general feeling of stimulation from a quick influx of nicotine.
And certainly, a cigarette generally provides a lot quicker influx of nicotine than electronic cigarettes do.

And as a side note... I want an ocelot.

Believe me, you don't. I've never been lucky enough to meet an ocelot, but I have been around Servals and Bob Cats. Even tame, they are not pets. For one thing, domestic cats use little boxes...

If you want a wild looking kitty, check out Savannah Cats, a Serval/Domestic cat cross. Pricey, but amazing:

 

[Robino1]

2 things.....

1. Some have claimed they quit smoking using the patch in this thread, sorry for not posting the quotes as its not my point. Point is did u quit and never smoke again... using patch only? Just curious since the original opinion was doesn't know anyone personally who quit using a patch, I'll add neither do I, if u indeed quit which means never ever smoked a cigarette again then fantastic but if u had even one analog you failed. Please don't take me wrong I hope I have clarified my thought in proper perspective.

2. The Hits I got from cigarettes were TH, no highs and to my pocket book.

True. I don't know if I would have stayed quit if not for my sons wedding. Highly unlikely since Every Day I would think about cigs.

Still, a learned opinion if not a scientific one.

I think it you are probably right, I would phrase it, "most vapers vape too much for it to feel like a stimulant" but I get your drift. The rest is on point.

Well, at least that mutt you are raising will be smart. Did you get the check for June?

An admission of sorts? Ocelot, you now have witnesses

I've known it was a lack of oxygen that created that buzz. I'm another one that has never gotten a nic buzz. I never got a nic buzz when I wore the patch And smoked a cig, the first time I tried to quit with with just the patch.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Wow, and I thought vaping was expensive! Maybe after I get rid of my kids. They do look awesome.

 

[EddardinWinter]

True. I don't know if I would have stayed quit if not for my sons wedding. Highly unlikely since Every Day I would think about cigs.


An admission of sorts? Ocelot, you now have witnesses

I've known it was a lack of oxygen that created that buzz. I'm another one that has never gotten a nic buzz. I never got a nic buzz when I wore the patch And smoked a cig, the first time I tried to quit with with just the patch.

He he he, it was worth it to catch the Ocelot in a clumsy phrase! We have reached an agreement on the interestingly DNA mismatched feline.

I also admitted she is smarter than me. You on the other hand, I am not sure about. Now I am not saying either of us is smarter, yet. I know we are both spastic, that is for sure! Have you figured out our tragic miss-communication yet, dear?

 

[Nermal]

Ocelot, can I have permission to repost that picture on another website? It has a "Beautiful Animals" thread, and they would just go wild over this one

Believe me, you don't. I've never been lucky enough to meet an ocelot, but I have been around Servals and Bob Cats. Even tame, they are not pets. For one thing, domestic cats use little boxes...

If you want a wild looking kitty, check out Savannah Cats, a Serval/Domestic cat cross. Pricey, but amazing:

 

[The Ocelot]

Wow, and I thought vaping was expensive! Maybe after I get rid of my kids. They do look awesome.

They are very hard to breed, hence the expense. There's a high mortality rate for the first few generations due to different gestational periods. Also, the first few generation males tend to be (or might all be, I can't remember) sterile. There are other wild crosses: bengals and pixie bobs come to mind, there are more, but I believe the Savannahs are the most dramatic looking.

 

[The Ocelot]

Ocelot, can I have permission to repost that picture on another website? It has a "Beautiful Animals" thread, and they would just go wild over this one

It's not mine, I got the picture from Google images. I love kitties, but not $12,000 worth of kitty.

 

[The Ocelot]

And now for something else completely different (although I'm looking at bottles of juice contemplating what to put in the carto tanks, which makes this vaping related):

 

[Nermal]

Well, google images sounds like public domain to me. Thanks for the reply

 

[The Ocelot]

Well, google images sounds like public domain to me. Thanks for the reply

As long as you're not using it for profit.

 

[DC2]

Ocelot, can I have permission to repost that picture on another website? It has a "Beautiful Animals" thread, and they would just go wild over this one

Where is this "Beautiful Animals" thread?

 

[EddardinWinter]

As long as you're not using it for profit.

Yeah, with my artwork, there is no chance of any large profit conflict.

 

[mad maori]

From Article


Hmmm. Let me guess, we need hard evidence that they are helping people to quit, but this sort of vague mention suffices to establish children are being introduced. Notice: Not "teens" for that would create an accurate image of what may be occurring. Nope, we get "children" which brings an horrifying image of a third grade child puffing on a Blu.

Thank you for the story, Mad. It is good to know what is being said. It had some element of balance to it.

yea-its kind of dumb that statement-- in n.z. it would have to like this... so lets say... some 7 year old went out paid 50bucks for a mod, then ordered some juice on line with various flavors and nic levels, then waited for the postie, 2-3 weeks rushed home coiled up her atty or filled the pro-tank up- to so they could try vapeing because they saw a celeb doing it--yea right!!!!!

 

[DC2]

And then they have to have their batteries charging all over the house.

 

[Robino1]

He he he, it was worth it to catch the Ocelot in a clumsy phrase! We have reached an agreement on the interestingly DNA mismatched feline.

I also admitted she is smarter than me. You on the other hand, I am not sure about. Now I am not saying either of us is smarter, yet. I know we are both spastic, that is for sure! Have you figured out our tragic miss-communication yet, dear?

Um I think so LOL.

Just had a HUGE scare with the youngest GC. Seems she thought she could swim now without the swim vest. *my heart is definitely working* She did the same thing last year. She now knows she really still needs that vest!!!!