now on the other hand.. it is was an emp attack.. we'd all be sitting looking for other options. 
the end of vapeing as we know it??
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I've looked, and can't find a mention. Yes, nicotine is a "dirty" drug however this is an informal term that is unlikely to be used in any scientific publication. You'll find more reverences to cigarettes and burning tobacco being a "dirty delivery system" for nicotine. Well, Duh.
Now here an interesting article on caffeine:
Sounds familiar? Here's an interesting fact, and I put this forward as an observation only. My mother is in a dementia home because the family is unable to give her the (literally) 24 hour full time care that she requires. In this home there are about 30 patients. NONE of them are regular coffee drinkers or smokers. They are all non-smoking tea drinkers.
Here's another article that shows that caffeine is also a "dirty" drug. In fact it appears that it may actually be more dangerous than nicotine if I read this right. The accepted affect of caffeine is to block the adenosine receptors in the brain thereby making you feel less sleepy and more more alert. It has other affects though, including messing with other neurotransmitters such as epinephrine and norepinephrine. It's these side affects that can increase heart rate to dangerous levels and makes you feel jittery - it's a fight/flight response that probably isn't good for you for extended periods.
How does caffeine affect the body?: Scientific American
Hmm, think I need a coffee. ...and a vape...
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Yes, which makes me wonder how effective patches are as NRT for smoking cessation. Personally, I don't know anyone who has given up smoking using patches.
I don't think there's been a study done on how addictive the patches are on their own. Perhaps it's only as in the study mentioned, it was noted that there are no addiction problems with using patches as a nicotine delivery system.
hmm brown sugar, or just a lil em??
thing is.. what would happen if.. say a power outage, lasting more than a week, or worse.. has anyone looked at this from that angle??
Yep I thought of week long or longer power failures within a week of starting vaping. I live in hurricane country after all. My solution was a $25 solar USB charger
now on the other hand.. it is was an emp attack.. we'd all be sitting looking for other options.
Which is why all vapers should also support their smoke-free tobacco "brothers-in-arms," to assure that ALL smoke-free alternatives remain available, affordable and effective for smokers!
Well if it was an emp attack.. I hope someone has the sense enough to stash spares in metal boxes.. otherwise.. there will be none.
U.S. ill-prepared for EMP attack
U.S. ill-prepared for EMP attack
The "he" would be, Paul Newhouse, MD, professor of psychiatry, pharmacology and medicine, and director of the Center for Cognitive Medicine at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville.
Hmmm, what baggage would that be and who put the baggage there?
This part is funny in the context of what has been said here,
But it's all just conspiracy theory. I'm sure the scientist meant to say nicotine has no baggage that hinders finding beneficial uses for it and it's the fact of it's shotgun approach that's the real issue.
I did give up smoking wearing patches BUT I was taking Wellbutrin along with the patches. PLUS there wasn't a day that went by where I didn't think of a cig. I used those for 6 months and nothing for the last three. The first time I spent a few days around smokers, I was bumming cigs. It didn't take long before I was back to a pack a day (less than a week).
I'm good. My house is wrapped in aluminum foil and if I'm out and about I can always put my ecig under my hat.
I'm good. My house is wrapped in aluminum foil and if I'm out and about I can always put my ecig under my hat.
roflmao!!
ahhh well.. I only have a tin.. it came from Germany, back in the 70's..
I used to use it to stash my cartons.. now it holds all my spare batteries
I'm good. My house is wrapped in aluminum foil and if I'm out and about I can always put my ecig under my hat.
I think I found your hat, is this yours?
I've been looking for that one. It blew off in a tornado.
Hmm, it's actually possible that this is the article that hotwire was referring to, but he misunderstood the context?
I guess we'll never know...
Not to be difficult here, but if I am wearing a hat, it will be this one.
Certainly not tin foil. But of course, as Robin can tell you, I never, ever wear hats. Not with a mane like mine.
Certainly not tin foil. But of course, as Robin can tell you, I never, ever wear hats. Not with a mane like mine.
now on the other hand.. it is was an emp attack.. we'd all be sitting looking for other options.
I actually keep a great deal of my vaping supplies in a steel ammunition box. As well as a back up cell phone, batteries, and a radio. Oh, I have other stuff in my fire safe, which is also EMP resistant. I think a small solar genny might make sense, too.
Now everyone is gonna want to come over when the apocalypse happens.
Speaking of looking out for brother (and sister) vapers, we had a brother call out on the Virginia Roll call yesterday, and several of us responded, and our mate did not have to turn to analogs. It was pretty cool to see.
Yeah, adds a whole new level of meaning to the term "hat hair".
You know it, so unless Professor X starts getting into my head. I won't be wearing it. If Emma Frost gets into my head, well, I might make her blush.
Pretty well represented by Ms January Jones. IF you are into tall, athletic blondes. I hear some guys like that sort of thing.
Once I saw him clip and bold the Wiki article on nicotine (which is mostly ANTZ anti-smoking studies passed off as nicotine, BTW) to spin things to claim they said the opposite of what they actually said I no longer give him that benefit of doubt.
I quit for 6 months at one time using the patch. I know that doesn't change the "personally" aspect since you don't know me but they can work for some people. As far as the other part...
*warning - I am about to talk about the way the patch works but it is in relation to vaping
If you were using the patch for 6 months, you didn't follow the directions. A lot of people don't follow those directions which is the most common reason that program doesn't work for people. I worked in an office when I used them but now 2-4 days a week I do physical work in the field. For some reason it takes longer for them to adhere to my skin than most people so they won't stick when I sweat before 4 hours of putting it on. No need for something to adhere while vaping.
The way the patch works is similar to what many have talked about doing here, stepping the nicotine levels down. You should have been done using them after 6-8 weeks depending on how much you smoked before using them. My guess would be if you didn't use them as directed you kept a nicotine addiction going. This step down is a third reason they don't work for many people. Going down from 21mg to 14 is a steep drop for some people's body chemistry. I had difficulty with that but made it through. The 3 step going to 7mg after 2 weeks wasn't an issue for me.
Step 1 with those is remove the spike in nicotine levels in the blood which occurs right after a cigarette but continue the amount through the course of a day. this is the longest step (4weeks) in the patch program. Not understanding this or not having patience for this is a fourth reason it doesn't work for many people. The peak is something that might not occur with vaping, I'd really like to know for sure. If it doesn't occur with vaping then people upping their mg when they start might be increasing the amount of nicotine they absorb in a day because they are chasing the peak they are accustomed to. I've heard people here say the body absorbs vape nic more slowly. If vaping doesn't give the sharp spike, possibly the reason I didn't have issues with going to vaping is I wasn't using the patch the way it was designed just before vaping. On office days or days off I used the patch. I got used to not having the peak.
Possibly the second biggest reason the patch doesn't work for many people is it only works on the physical addiction and the user must deal with the habit aspect. That is where vaping works great because you aren't stopping a habit, just altering it. When I first joined there was a good discussion on that. I enjoyed hearing that I wasn't the only one reaching for a lighter when I started vaping.
Not to be difficult here, but if I am wearing a hat, it will be this one.
Certainly not tin foil. But of course, as Robin can tell you, I never, ever wear hats. Not with a mane like mine.
haha
like this?? 
meanwhile, back at my pc..
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