The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[renilyn]

Im currently trying to put together a TFA order and as I try to decide what's going to eat my vape budget this time around....

Honey-I've only seen Bill use it once, I've never seen it in any other recipe. However, I enjoy sweet vapes. Good for that, or is it too subtle?

 

[jagstownville]

I have everything but the orange cream lol

LOL, it's always something that we are missing. Can you make it? Have Orange and maybe mix with a tad bit of Van Cream or Bavarian Cream? No orange, then maybe another tropical type of fruit.... Create, modify & improvise! These recipes can always be tweaked.

 

[mattiem]

Don't you wish you could spend the weekend on a tropical island? I sure do...

Belize

Mango 13%
Pineapple 3%
Orange Cream 5%
Pina Colada 2%

Spent over 2 hours today working on this one. vape it right away with no waiting. Very good if you like the tropical stuff. The Orange Cream helps to smooth this out. I could vape it all day!

I have everything but the Pina Colada. I wonder if Coconut Candy would work.....hmmmmmm.... or maybe smooth since it smells a bit like pina colada .... or a bit of both

 

[jagstownville]

I have everything but the Pina Colada. I wonder if Coconut Candy would work.....hmmmmmm.... or maybe smooth since it smells a bit like pina colada .... or a bit of both

I think you could use either or a blend of the two.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Im currently trying to put together a TFA order and as I try to decide what's going to eat my vape budget this time around....

Honey-I've only seen Bill use it once, I've never seen it in any other recipe. However, I enjoy sweet vapes. Good for that, or is it too subtle?

Honey is strong. I just used some on my Watermelon recipe this weekend, and I do use it in others. Honey is one of those base flavorings that you would use in some foods, just like in vaping. Gotta have it, imho.

P.S,. It's really about priorities. Would I buy honey before say Bavarian Cream? No way!

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

LOL, it's always something that we are missing. Can you make it? Have Orange and maybe mix with a tad bit of Van Cream or Bavarian Cream? No orange, then maybe another tropical type of fruit.... Create, modify & improvise! These recipes can always be tweaked.

I use orange cream when I want the orange in the background and very subtle. Sweet orange is very strong, but could be substituted with a lower dilution. The cream is irrelevant in the mix, imho.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I have everything but the Pina Colada. I wonder if Coconut Candy would work.....hmmmmmm.... or maybe smooth since it smells a bit like pina colada .... or a bit of both

Pina Colada is essentially pineapple and coconut and cream, so YES, it can be duplicated, and probably could be made better than the mixed flavoring. A useful flavor though for these type of juices. I use these ingredients in Tropical Paradise (Pair a Dice - on the strip).

 

[renilyn]

Honey is strong. I just used some on my Watermelon recipe this weekend, and I do use it in others. Honey is one of those base flavorings that you would use in some foods, just like in vaping. Gotta have it, imho.

P.S,. It's really about priorities. Would I buy honey before say Bavarian Cream? No way!

LOL ok!

Ya, Me either Bill!

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Sample Day in the Vape Lab. Here's a picture of my process:

< The Seven Sample Bottles

Notice that I have base PG flavorings in the Reagent bottles. This is the 30% PG portion of the juice. Also, I take those bases and turn them into different strength nicotine samples. In this case, I'm making 35 ml of 0 Nicotine, and 65 ml of 6 mg Nicotine. You can see the separation in the beakers in front of five different eJuices. One rather full reagent bottle, I made only 6 mg/ml strength, and won't need to make smaller beaker batches. Because flavorings do take a day or two for the flavor bonds to fully form, I made these bases over the last week, including five of them yesterday. All I add to them is VG and VG Nic, where applicable. I use a spreadsheet to make all of these calculations, though I use the eJuiceMeUp Calculator to record all my recipes and to make the initial PG bases. Anyway, thought you might want to see the actual application in progress.

From the beakers, these 30 ml bases will go into 7 different bottles with custom labels, making 100 ml of eJuice:

2 - 0 mg/ml 10 ml samples
2 - 6 mg/ml 10 ml samples
1 - 0 mg/ml 15 ml amber glass capped bottles (Sample)
1 - 6 mg/ml 15 ml amber glass capped bottles (Sample), and
1 - 6 mg/ml 30 ml amber glass capped bottles (for my stash)

Labels are all cut from a single label sheet of color laser produced labels, 21 to the sheet. Each label will provide the strength, ratio, bottle size, flavor, ingredients list, and warning label. In other words, the contents.

These samples will be on the strip for taste testing with tourists this afternoon. If they are a hit, I'll likely make more. The only reason I mention this is to let you know that these juices are sampled by a wide variety of vapers in the real world. Often times, first time vapers will find some of the odd flavorings quite attractive. It's an interesting process. This entire process is done without compensation. I benefit from knowing what is working in the marketplace. It helps me make better juice, and then I come here and give it to you!

If the family likes a particular flavoring, I will then make a larger batch, and generally not less than 150 ml's that I will store in 240 ml glass bottles. If the juice becomes a big, big hit, I'll make up a base flavoring and put it into a 500 ml re-agent bottle. Just my process, that I developed for myself over time, and that works for my needs. Most people will not have these same requirements, though, so, just sharing the BMV way. Ciao!

 

[jagstownville]

I use orange cream when I want the orange in the background and very subtle. Sweet orange is very strong, but could be substituted with a lower dilution. The cream is irrelevant in the mix, imho.

Exactly! Orange is just a soft note in our song for this recipe. Background music my friend!

 

[mattiem]

once I do my 100 drop test and decide I like it, I use this to make up 30 mls.

Flavoring Conversion Chart %'s to mls for mixing up 30 mls

1%---0.3 mls
2%---0.6 mls
3%---0.9 mls
4%---1.2 mls
5%---1.5 mls
6%---1.8 mls
7%---2.1 mls
8%---2.4 mls
9%---2.7 mls
10%--3.0 mls
11%--3.3 mls
12%--3.6 mls
13%--3.9 mls
14%--4.2 mls
15%--4.5 mls
16%--4.8 mls
17%--5.1 mls
18%--5.4 mls
19%--5.7 mls
20%--6.0 mls

For me it makes it so much faster and easier than opening up my ejuice calculator. I printed it out and taped it to my flavorings container.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

once I do my 100 drop test and decide I like it, I use this to make up 30 mls.

Flavoring Conversion Chart %'s to mls for mixing up 30 mls

1%---0.3 mls
2%---0.6 mls
3%---0.9 mls
4%---1.2 mls
5%---1.5 mls
6%---1.8 mls
7%---2.1 mls
8%---2.4 mls
9%---2.7 mls
10%--3.0 mls
11%--3.3 mls
12%--3.6 mls
13%--3.9 mls
14%--4.2 mls
15%--4.5 mls
16%--4.8 mls
17%--5.1 mls
18%--5.4 mls
19%--5.7 mls
20%--6.0 mls

For me it makes it so much faster and easier than opening up my ejuice calculator. I printed it out and taped it to my flavorings container.

Right! If you only make and use one size bottle, then this would be faster, no doubt. Because I literally check off each ingredient as I make a mix, I have to print it out first, then put the ingredients in one at a time, being meticulous to ensure that I don't make a mistake. Then again, I make a lot of juice, and have to follow a strict protocol to ensure accuracy. I recommend that this check mark system be used in virtually all cases, as it's one of the only ways to ensure an error free mix, particularly given the distractions in most of our homes.

 

[mattiem]

Right! If you only make and use one size bottle, then this would be faster, no doubt. Because I literally check off each ingredient as I make a mix, I have to print it out first, then put the ingredients in one at a time, being meticulous to ensure that I don't make a mistake. Then again, I make a lot of juice, and have to follow a strict protocol to ensure accuracy. I recommend that this check mark system be used in virtually all cases, as it's one of the only ways to ensure an error free mix, particularly given the distractions in most of our homes.

I totally understand where you are coming from Bill. In my case I am only making it for myself so it works. If that were to ever change (not likely) I would have to rethink it.

BTW: I am sitting here vaping some of your Peach Cobbler and it is delicious. Thank you for all the wonderful recipes. If not for you I would still be vaping one flavor juices and although some were good, none were great

 

[renilyn]

This what's out on the counter for today lol

Horrible pic but it's all I could come up with [emoji12]

 

[renilyn]

Sample Day in the Vape Lab. Here's a picture of my process:

View attachment 377316View attachment 377320 < The Seven Sample Bottles

Notice that I have base PG flavorings in the Reagent bottles. This is the 30% PG portion of the juice. Also, I take those bases and turn them into different strength nicotine samples. In this case, I'm making 35 ml of 0 Nicotine, and 65 ml of 6 mg Nicotine. You can see the separation in the beakers in front of five different eJuices. One rather full reagent bottle, I made only 6 mg/ml strength, and won't need to make smaller beaker batches. Because flavorings do take a day or two for the flavor bonds to fully form, I made these bases over the last week, including five of them yesterday. All I add to them is VG and VG Nic, where applicable. I use a spreadsheet to make all of these calculations, though I use the eJuiceMeUp Calculator to record all my recipes and to make the initial PG bases. Anyway, thought you might want to see the actual application in progress.

From the beakers, these 30 ml bases will go into 7 different bottles with custom labels, making 100 ml of eJuice:

2 - 0 mg/ml 10 ml samples
2 - 6 mg/ml 10 ml samples
1 - 0 mg/ml 15 ml amber glass capped bottles (Sample)
1 - 6 mg/ml 15 ml amber glass capped bottles (Sample), and
1 - 6 mg/ml 30 ml amber glass capped bottles (for my stash)

Labels are all cut from a single label sheet of color laser produced labels, 21 to the sheet. Each label will provide the strength, ratio, bottle size, flavor, ingredients list, and warning label. In other words, the contents.

These samples will be on the strip for taste testing with tourists this afternoon. If they are a hit, I'll likely make more. The only reason I mention this is to let you know that these juices are sampled by a wide variety of vapers in the real world. Often times, first time vapers will find some of the odd flavorings quite attractive. It's an interesting process. This entire process is done without compensation. I benefit from knowing what is working in the marketplace. It helps me make better juice, and then I come here and give it to you!

If the family likes a particular flavoring, I will then make a larger batch, and generally not less than 150 ml's that I will store in 240 ml glass bottles. If the juice becomes a big, big hit, I'll make up a base flavoring and put it into a 500 ml re-agent bottle. Just my process, that I developed for myself over time, and that works for my needs. Most people will not have these same requirements, though, so, just sharing the BMV way. Ciao!

Oh I SOOOOOOOO need beakers. SO badly lol I'll get there, eventually. For now, Its bottle mixing for meeeeeeeee. Right now I'd rather get more flavoring until I replace all of my lil baby bottles with real people sized ones I think I will be following firechick's lead and using that same tackle box, so that I can move what i need to, when I need to. When I travel back home, I'm going to be slammed with requests-so my stuff needs to be mobile.

Along that train of thought-does anyone ever take their stuff with them? I'm talking about driving though, not flying.

As usual Bill, nice set up From what I can see, .....en labels too! I was just looking at labeling last night actually....

 

[renilyn]

LOL, it's always something that we are missing. Can you make it? Have Orange and maybe mix with a tad bit of Van Cream or Bavarian Cream? No orange, then maybe another tropical type of fruit.... Create, modify & improvise! These recipes can always be tweaked.

Nope, nothing orange in my supplies unfortunately. Figures eh?

Yes, you can always tweak em, but I like to try out what folks put on the board originally, then start messing with it LOL

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Oh I SOOOOOOOO need beakers. SO badly lol I'll get there, eventually. For now, Its bottle mixing for meeeeeeeee. Right now I'd rather get more flavoring until I replace all of my lil baby bottles with real people sized ones I think I will be following firechick's lead and using that same tackle box, so that I can move what i need to, when I need to. When I travel back home, I'm going to be slammed with requests-so my stuff needs to be mobile.

Along that train of thought-does anyone ever take their stuff with them? I'm talking about driving though, not flying.

As usual Bill, nice set up From what I can see, .....en labels too! I was just looking at labeling last night actually....

These are my 100 ml beakers:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006UKI57O/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Pack of 12 for $20. Good deal. I also use larger 600 ml beakers. Really hard to stir in bottles.....I know, shake them up, but it's not the same.

Thanks for nice words.....I didn't start with this setup. Time is your friend. I truly am trying to give everyone the keys to take this to any level they wish. We all have different dreams and aspirations. Made 70 bottles of juice today, 10 30's for me, the rest samples, all of recipes I have posted this last week, so this is the real deal folks.....I'm still having fun, plus, I have a sweet tooth.....

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I totally understand where you are coming from Bill. In my case I am only making it for myself so it works. If that were to ever change (not likely) I would have to rethink it.

BTW: I am sitting here vaping some of your Peach Cobbler and it is delicious. Thank you for all the wonderful recipes. If not for you I would still be vaping one flavor juices and although some were good, none were great

Glad you like it. That was my second ADV. I love the Juicy Peach. My favorite vape fruit flavoring. I hear ya bro!

 

[E_Cig Vicious]

once I do my 100 drop test and decide I like it, I use this to make up 30 mls.

Flavoring Conversion Chart %'s to mls for mixing up 30 mls

1%---0.3 mls
2%---0.6 mls
3%---0.9 mls
4%---1.2 mls
5%---1.5 mls
6%---1.8 mls
7%---2.1 mls
8%---2.4 mls
9%---2.7 mls
10%--3.0 mls
11%--3.3 mls
12%--3.6 mls
13%--3.9 mls
14%--4.2 mls
15%--4.5 mls
16%--4.8 mls
17%--5.1 mls
18%--5.4 mls
19%--5.7 mls
20%--6.0 mls

For me it makes it so much faster and easier than opening up my ejuice calculator. I printed it out and taped it to my flavorings container.

Right! If you only make and use one size bottle, then this would be faster, no doubt. Because I literally check off each ingredient as I make a mix, I have to print it out first, then put the ingredients in one at a time, being meticulous to ensure that I don't make a mistake. Then again, I make a lot of juice, and have to follow a strict protocol to ensure accuracy. I recommend that this check mark system be used in virtually all cases, as it's one of the only ways to ensure an error free mix, particularly given the distractions in most of our homes.

I see the 100 drop test being easy way to dial in a recipe but how does the viscosity of the PG and VG not throw off everything when converting to larger batches?

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I see the 100 drop test being easy way to dial in a recipe but how does the viscosity of the PG and VG not throw off everything when converting to larger batches?

Because the percentages and ingredients remain exactly the same from the test to the larger batches, my friend.