The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[ongkee]

is TFA cinnamon ok to vape?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

John, you might find some ideas in this thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/238711-diy-caramel-apple.html
Good Luck

Cheers,
Steve

Hi all,
I've searched and searched for an answer to my inability to make a TFA Caramel Apple. I'm using Apple and either Caramel (original) or Caramel Candy. If the answer is here and I missed it, I apologize. But if someone could point my wife and I in the right direction it would be very appreciated.
I must admit that a good deal of my time looking for a caramel apple recipe has been spent reading posts about other flavors. The info here varies from interesting to captivating and I thank you all for your posts about failures as well as successes. It's been very helpful. We have a few that are almost good enough to post here, the best is a piña colada with a menthol breeze that is still overpowering but we're getting there and look forward to sharing it.

-John

 

[Johnny D.]

Thank you, Steve. Much appreciated.

 

[ukeman]

Ah well I don't know that's why I was asking. I thought I had read somewhere that sucralose did the same thing as sugar in an atty. If you don't use a lot I guess it will be ok. for that matter I don't know that stevia or ethyle maltose don't do the same thing. I'm just learning...

I don't know enough to say for sure, but i do remember seeing that some vendors of ejuice use "natural sweetener" which i would take to be some form of sugar…lol
but i did try a juice that lots rave about and it does seem to be a bit harsh when you get down to the dry vape stage on your coils… in my mind thats what sugar would do; carbonize (as in cooking with sugar anyone will see what i mean; ie. bbq sauce or marinade will char up your grill)
Sucralose in my mind would not be real sugar… no?

oops i see someone answered that…

 

[ukeman]

I admit I don't have patience…
i don't steep as a rule, and afaik its said that fruit flavors, which i prefer, usually don't need as much time, if any (?)…

and in my case if i make less than 10ml and it turns out good, believe me its gone pretty fast… (low nic % and chain vaping)

 

[NeKro13]

what do the 5/5 or 2/5 number mean when there next to a flavor and percentage of they flavor for example

graham cracker 5%-15% 5/5

 

[Doug_xx2]

I know what you mean. I've given myself a very tight vaping budget since I started. I get my Nic and the 8oz flavor bottles from WL, two bottles of the flavors I use a lot. That was the best way for me to keep costs down and still have over 60 flavors to play with. I get my PG & VG locally by the gallon to save on shipping.
I only mix 30ml of my 3 favorites, putting 5-10ml in another bottle in case I want some right away like you lol. Luckily they are flavors that are good right away, and awesome after steeping.


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I will go between 10 to 15%, depending on how quickly I want to vape it. I use the higher percentage every-so-often if I run out and have to have it soon... otherwise I stick down near 10%. I don't make it in large batches because this is the flavor that goes away over time.

I am still working on that flavor. I am not pleased with my results and am open to suggestions.

I don't know enough to say for sure, but i do remember seeing that some vendors of ejuice use "natural sweetener" which i would take to be some form of sugar…lol
but i did try a juice that lots rave about and it does seem to be a bit harsh when you get down to the dry vape stage on your coils… in my mind thats what sugar would do; carbonize (as in cooking with sugar anyone will see what i mean; ie. bbq sauce or marinade will char up your grill)
Sucralose in my mind would not be real sugar… no?

oops i see someone answered that…

I believe it is chemically altered sugar it is like one electron different or something but it causes the body to metabolize it differently while still tasting about the same....

I think if I recall correctly

 

[rowdyplace]

what do the 5/5 or 2/5 number mean when there next to a flavor and percentage of they flavor for example

graham cracker 5%-15% 5/5

The first number is the amount of flavor to begin with 5%.

The second set is the user rating. 1 being low and 5 being highest. 5/5 means very good stuff... (2/5 is not good, 0/5 is terrible!)

 

[NeKro13]

The first number is the amount of flavor to begin with 5%.

The second set is the user rating. 1 being low and 5 being highest. 5/5 means very good stuff... (2/5 is not good, 0/5 is terrible!)

ooo okay thank you very much!

 

[chux]

Strawberries and Cream.. anybody else have really bad experiences with this flavor? It tastes like neither to me, and even at 2% it's chemical taste and smell will completely dominate the rest of the mix.

 

[partyannimal]

it does seem to be a bit harsh when you get down to the dry vape stage on your coils… in my mind thats what sugar would do; carbonize (as in cooking with sugar anyone will see what i mean; ie. bbq sauce or marinade will char up your grill)
Sucralose in my mind would not be real sugar… no?

Because of a dry wick, most juices are harsh at the "dry vape" stage lol.
"Natural sweetener" does not necessarily imply that sucrose is used.

Sucralose is an artificial sweetener. It is 320 to 1,000 times as sweet as sucrose (table sugar), twice as sweet as saccharin, and three times as sweet as aspartame. It is stable under heat and over a broad range of pH conditions which is why many of us prefer to use it in our juices. It is not a sucrose derivative, so it does not have the potential to caramelize and gunk up your coil or wick as bad as other sweeteners can.

Splenda is a sucralose-based artificial sweetener derived from sucrose, having many of the same properties as table sugar, but still being artificial.

Lastly, stevia is a natural sweetener derived from the leaves of a plant, also with many of the exact same properties as sucrose.



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[Johnny D.]

Strawberries and Cream.. anybody else have really bad experiences with this flavor? It tastes like neither to me, and even at 2% it's chemical taste and smell will completely dominate the rest of the mix.

I recently mixed this one at 15% by request for my wife's friend and she really liked it. So much so that I spun up a 15% batch mixed 50/50 to try myself. It wasn't bad at all, but I got tired of it rather quickly. That was just a bit too sweet for an adv.

 

[chux]

I recently mixed this one at 15% by request for my wife's friend and she really liked it. So much so that I spun up a 15% batch mixed 50/50 to try myself. It wasn't bad at all, but I got tired of it rather quickly. That was just a bit too sweet for an adv.

Weird, I don't get any sweetness at all. I wonder if maybe I just got a bad batch? Lot #159796

 

[Doug_xx2]

Because of a dry wick, most juices are harsh at the "dry vape" stage lol.
"Natural sweetener" does not necessarily imply that sucrose is used.

Sucralose is an artificial sweetener. It is 320 to 1,000 times as sweet as sucrose (table sugar), twice as sweet as saccharin, and three times as sweet as aspartame. It is stable under heat and over a broad range of pH conditions which is why many of us prefer to use it in our juices. It is not a sucrose derivative, so it does not have the potential to caramelize and gunk up your coil or wick as bad as other sweeteners can.

Splenda is a sucralose-based artificial sweetener derived from sucrose, having many of the same properties as table sugar, but still being artificial.

Lastly, stevia is a natural sweetener derived from the leaves of a plant, also with many of the exact same properties as sucrose.



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I don't know enough to say for sure, but i do remember seeing that some vendors of ejuice use "natural sweetener" which i would take to be some form of sugar…lol
but i did try a juice that lots rave about and it does seem to be a bit harsh when you get down to the dry vape stage on your coils… in my mind thats what sugar would do; carbonize (as in cooking with sugar anyone will see what i mean; ie. bbq sauce or marinade will char up your grill)
Sucralose in my mind would not be real sugar… no?

oops i see someone answered that…

um mined from wikipedia sorry

Tate & Lyle currently manufactures sucralose both at a plant in Jurong, Singapore.[11] and at a recently reopened plant in McIntosh, Alabama. It is manufactured by the selective chlorination of sucrose (table sugar), which substitutes three of the hydroxyl groups with chlorine. This chlorination is achieved by selective protection of the primary alcohol groups followed by acetylation and then deprotection of the primary alcohol groups. Following an induced acetyl migration on one of the hydroxyl groups, the partially acetylated sugar is then chlorinated with a chlorinating agent such as phosphorus oxychloride, followed by removal of the acetyl groups to give sucralose

 

[VapieDan]

A friend has reactions to sucralose when digested. May be unrelated to vaping but those who are allergy prone may wish to skip it.

 

[doots]

Strawberries and Cream.. anybody else have really bad experiences with this flavor? It tastes like neither to me, and even at 2% it's chemical taste and smell will completely dominate the rest of the mix.

I have used it once at 7% and that being the only flavor in the juice. Kind of tastes to me like a strawberry. Kind of.. want really impressed all that much..Its still in the cabinet. I think I will try it again but it does dominate everything it touches.. Agreed.

 

[Desert Willow]

Am I the only person who refuses to add sucralose or vape it if it contains it?

No, there are a few of us that watch that.

 

[dgarci]

Hi all,
I've searched and searched for an answer to my inability to make a TFA Caramel Apple. I'm using Apple and either Caramel (original) or Caramel Candy. If the answer is here and I missed it, I apologize. But if someone could point my wife and I in the right direction it would be very appreciated.
I must admit that a good deal of my time looking for a caramel apple recipe has been spent reading posts about other flavors. The info here varies from interesting to captivating and I thank you all for your posts about failures as well as successes. It's been very helpful. We have a few that are almost good enough to post here, the best is a piña colada with a menthol breeze that is still overpowering but we're getting there and look forward to sharing it.

-John

Im no expert, but just apple and caramel flavors together sounds a LittLe bit too sweet for me.. maybe adding in something to cut that with, maybe something bitter? a teeny bit of coffee.. maybe even AP.. or smooth to duLL it out a bit..

Edit:
btw, does anyone have the google drive Link to the compLete fLavors List?

@partyannimal
that chocoLate I've mixed up, stiLL turned out pretty bLand.. it smeLLed so much Like hershey's miLk chocoLate bars when I fired it up on my atty though. So much disappointment with that one. XD .. I added in a pre mixed cappucino in there, a few drops for the 5mL test batch I made.. and I put in way too much cappucino. LOL.. ended up overpowering the chocoLate. LOL..

But I have found my mint/menthoL ADV.. very much Like the mentos candy that I Liked.

 

[partyannimal]

Am I the only person who refuses to add sucralose or vape it if it contains it?

Nope. Many people don't use any sweetener at all.


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[partyannimal]

@partyannimal
that chocoLate I've mixed up, stiLL turned out pretty bLand.. it smeLLed so much Like hershey's miLk chocoLate bars when I fired it up on my atty though. So much disappointment with that one. XD .. I added in a pre mixed cappucino in there, a few drops for the 5mL test batch I made.. and I put in way too much cappucino. LOL.. ended up overpowering the chocoLate. LOL..

Well it sounds like you're getting somewhere lol. Trial and error my friend, trial and error. Most of my favorite mixes took quite a few tweaks before they gave me a "choirs singing" vape.



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