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Ah found it on BullCity sweet.

I received it yesterday from BullCity and I found it very nice. Can't compare with the old vanilla bean because i never had it but i can tell you this new flavor rocks, a rich, creamy vanilla flavor that tastes like a real Ice Cream. 1 drop per ml worked good for me. I am sure some steeping will make it even better.
 
I received it yesterday from BullCity and I found it very nice. Can't compare with the old vanilla bean because i never had it but i can tell you this new flavor rocks, a rich, creamy vanilla flavor that tastes like a real Ice Cream. 1 drop per ml worked good for me. I am sure some steeping will make it even better.
Koo. Thanx. Top of my list it is then.
 

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Hey all,
So im having a hard time getting any kind of creamy flavor right. Any good advice on how i can get some good creamy notes with my juice, primarily fruity and creamy...
Ive tried bavarian cream and whipped cream and vanilla custard so far, and i either get no flavor or they become to spicy or something. Not like hot spicy, more like to much spices or idk? I have also tried marshmallow.
I cant even get the "strawberries and cream flavor" right :/

Any advice in the right direction is much appreciated
 

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I've found that small percentages of creamy flavors worked better for me. Too much cream overpowered my other flavors.

Agreed . Start with 1% and go up from there. There is a huge misconception in general that more is better or that total flavorings need to hit 20%

If I may suggest, make you some pre mixed nic,vg, pg of 90% juice with no flavorings.

Then mix flavors at small increments, quick heat , shake and vape. If it's not right, just add a half percent of flavor to one percent at a time , then heat, shake and vape

Repeat this until you get it right.
 

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It's the combination of flavors that does the trick, and in the right proportions. This takes experimentation, trial and error. Too much flavoring is often NOT the problem. Often times it is too little flavoring, or not having the right mix. Think about it this way. Sweet cream is cream and sweet flavor. Even if you use Sweet Cream, you may still have to add Sweetener or Cotton Candy (Ethyl Maltol). You need both to get sweet cream. I start with the fruit at recommended starting percentages and then add several creams and sweeteners in two, three or four steps to get it to work. Once you have a good fruit cream, you can use any fruit. Same with custards, meringues, etc. Here's a couple of examples:

Dutch Apple Pie ala mode:

Apple 12%
French Vanilla 4%
Sweetener 4%
Pie crust 4%
Graham cracker 3%
Brown sugar 2%
Butter 1%
Cinnamon .5%

Or, perhaps a custard - Mango Custard:

Mango 11%
Cotton Candy 7%
Vanilla Custard 6%
Bavarian Cream 6%

Or a Cream/Meringue Pie:

Lemon 12%
Marshmallow 6%
Bavarian Cream 4%
Cotton Candy 5%
Graham Cracker 3%

Or, how about a Peach Danish:

Peach 8%
Vanilla Custard 4%
Brown Sugar 2%
Butter 2%
Sweetener 2%
Waffle 1%
Sweet Cream 1%

Trust me, these are all very good, and you can sweeten and flavor to your taste. It's the combination of flavors that will get you where you're headed. Single flavors almost never get you what you want, so play around with them. Regards.
 

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Ok cool thanks for the input. Ya i usually make flavorings individually then mix them together in different amounts to find the right mixture. I will try these Recipes.
Oh btw i was kind of playing around and have been adding dragon fruit to all my mixes, even the creams.. It is working amazingly, its like a sweetener without that artificial taste. I usually use it at 5%, definitely worth trying imo.
 

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Ok cool thanks for the input. Ya i usually make flavorings individually then mix them together in different amounts to find the right mixture. I will try these Recipes.
Oh btw i was kind of playing around and have been adding dragon fruit to all my mixes, even the creams.. It is working amazingly, its like a sweetener without that artificial taste. I usually use it at 5%, definitely worth trying imo.

Yeppers. I make a dragonfruit and love it too. Try this Dragon's Blood:

Dragonfruit 10%
Strawberry 5%
Cotton Candy 5%
Vanilla Cupcake 2.5%
Bavarian Cream 4%
Sweet Cream 2%
Vanilla Swirl 1.5%
 

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It's the combination of flavors that does the trick, and in the right proportions. This takes experimentation, trial and error. Too much flavoring is often NOT the problem. Often times it is too little flavoring, or not having the right mix. Think about it this way. Sweet cream is cream and sweet flavor. Even if you use Sweet Cream, you may still have to add Sweetener or Cotton Candy (Ethyl Maltol). You need both to get sweet cream. I start with the fruit at recommended starting percentages and then add several creams and sweeteners in two, three or four steps to get it to work. Once you have a good fruit cream, you can use any fruit. Same with custards, meringues, etc. Here's a couple of examples:

Dutch Apple Pie ala mode:

Apple 12%
French Vanilla 4%
Sweetener 4%
Pie crust 4%
Graham cracker 3%
Brown sugar 2%
Butter 1%
Cinnamon .5%

Or, perhaps a custard - Mango Custard:

Mango 11%
Cotton Candy 7%
Vanilla Custard 6%
Bavarian Cream 6%

Or a Cream/Meringue Pie:

Lemon 12%
Marshmallow 6%
Bavarian Cream 4%
Cotton Candy 5%
Graham Cracker 3%

Or, how about a Peach Danish:

Peach 8%
Vanilla Custard 4%
Brown Sugar 2%
Butter 2%
Sweetener 2%
Waffle 1%
Sweet Cream 1%

Trust me, these are all very good, and you can sweeten and flavor to your taste. It's the combination of flavors that will get you where you're headed. Single flavors almost never get you what you want, so play around with them. Regards.

Hey, Bill...

Thanks a bunch for your comments.

I would be very interested in any comments/advice/recipes you might have that use RY4 double or M Type Premium. I'm making an RY4 recipe now that's okay, but after I vape it awhile I can't taste it at all. As for the M Type, I'm entering the tobacco flavor world because that's what my wife and I seem to like best. Hangsen has a very good RY6 that I would love to come close to making. I figured the M Type might get me started.

I'm not new to this, so I know about vape tongue and that tobacco flavoring has to "age" because it changes. I also know the M Type Premium is strong to the tenth power.

Anything at all from anyone would be appreciated.

Tim
 
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Hey, Bill...

Thanks a bunch for your comments.

I would be very interested in any comments/advice/recipes you might have that use RY4 double or M Type Premium. I'm making an RY4 recipe now that's okay, but after I vape it awhile I can't taste it at all. As for the M Type, I'm entering the tobacco flavor world because that's what my wife and I seem to like best. Hangsen has a very good RY6 that I would love to come close to making. I figured the M Type might get me started.

I'm not new to this, so I know about vape tongue and that tobacco flavoring has to "age" because it changes. I also know the M Type Premium is strong to the tenth power.

Anything at all from anyone would be appreciated.

Tim

I haven't made any tobacco juice in quite a while (coupla years), but when I did, I liked the Desert Ship (Turkish) bases a lot. RY4, as you know, is sweet, and is used in all kinds of recipes that aren't tobacco related. I believe the 4 is the sweetness factor. So, you can have RY5 or 6 or 3. My suggestion is to start with a tobacco base and then add flavors that you like in the real world. You are bound to wind up with some tasty juice. I left tobacco behind, because, although it was familiar, it doesn't taste as good as say Apple Pie, or cherry cheese cake. I think the fruits and desert juices are natural adjuncts and evolutions from the tobaccos. Fun to experiment. Good luck!
 

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I haven't made any tobacco juice in quite a while (coupla years), but when I did, I liked the Desert Ship (Turkish) bases a lot. RY4, as you know, is sweet, and is used in all kinds of recipes that aren't tobacco related. I believe the 4 is the sweetness factor. So, you can have RY5 or 6 or 3. My suggestion is to start with a tobacco base and then add flavors that you like in the real world. You are bound to wind up with some tasty juice. I left tobacco behind, because, although it was familiar, it doesn't taste as good as say Apple Pie, or cherry cheese cake. I think the fruits and desert juices are natural adjuncts and evolutions from the tobaccos. Fun to experiment. Good luck!

Still... very helpful. I'll get some of the Desert Ship and see what happens. Thanks, Bill!
 
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