The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[renilyn]

I can see that Bill is trying to get me to BAKE today with all those pics!

I got vape MAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course, besides CD, NOTHING I need in the way of this Danish deal was included. lol HOWEVER! I got the OK to get the tackle box set up like firechick showed everyone last week (thanks FC-now he wants one too lol). But that's ok, maybe I can talk a few more $$ out of him for Pie Crust, Waffle and BW lol Oh and maybe some blueberry and and and and anddddddddddd!

(Ok, off with the rambling)

Now, I must shop for my family-they seem to think they need to EAT! How come they can't just vape their food like me?!?!?!? Geeze!

Which, BTW, I am happy to say that I have lost a steady 8 lbs since I quit analogs! I think the fact that I can "munch" on something sweet or what have you, from my vape world, has really helped. And that means everyone here deserves a thank you as well-because if it wasn't for the encouragement I get here, it'd never have made me this happy!

(Get it, its a "post"? hahaha) Ok lame sense of humor = OFF!

 

[renilyn]

Let us know how the Rainbow Sherbet is. Don't have that one yet.

I will second that!

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I can see that Bill is trying to get me to BAKE today with all those pics!

I got vape MAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course, besides CD, NOTHING I need in the way of this Danish deal was included. lol HOWEVER! I got the OK to get the tackle box set up like firechick showed everyone last week (thanks FC-now he wants one too lol). But that's ok, maybe I can talk a few more $$ out of him for Pie Crust, Waffle and BW lol Oh and maybe some blueberry and and and and anddddddddddd!

(Ok, off with the rambling)

Now, I must shop for my family-they seem to think they need to EAT! How come they can't just vape their food like me?!?!?!? Geeze!

Which, BTW, I am happy to say that I have lost a steady 8 lbs since I quit analogs! I think the fact that I can "munch" on something sweet or what have you, from my vape world, has really helped. And that means everyone here deserves a thank you as well-because if it wasn't for the encouragement I get here, it'd never have made me this happy!

(Get it, its a "post"? hahaha) Ok lame sense of humor = OFF!

NICE!!!

Might I suggest BUTTER, as well, dear Reni?

If I have the energy, I'm going to start with the Danish Dough today. I'm thinking butter, donuts, cinnamon sugar cookie as a starting point with enhancements (vanilla (swirl) and creams (Bavarian and/or French vanilla) + Sweet). I know there's a Danish dough recipe here somewhere. I've always focused on toppings in the past, because those are the primaries with a Danish vape. Mom made some excellent suggestions, though, so I thought I'd start my Danish adventure there. We really do have a lot to play with, and while most of them are unlikely to work, I just suspect there's magic around here. Also, given two weeks to work on a flavor allows a great deal of exploration, and I'm looking forward to that, something I really never do any more (take two weeks to work on a flavor, that is). Ciao!

 

[xcrazydx]

Love Blueberry Muffins (mix with vanilla cupcake and cinnamon Danish!). I use blueberry with menthols and cooler flavorings like raspberry and watermelon, and this adds depth, richness, expansion and subtle background flavoring and can give you a fifth or sixth flavoring in mixes.....amazing stuff. Love them in my nutriblast morning shakes, too. Mix all three TFA blueberries together and add lemon and sweetener.....wow! Great in licorice too (absinthe and red licorice...sweeten). They make a great pie too (graham cracker, pie crust, Bavarian cream/French vanilla cream, sweetener, and vanilla custard). They are good with waffles, can be mixed with other fruits like dragonfruit, raspberries, watermelon, passion fruit, or other berries. They make an excellent cotton candy, a great candy, or a sweet tart. I've even seen them in cheesecakes. So, I like all three TFA flavorings.....I NEED THEM! Great in Cream Fantastico!

Otherwise, not very useful....

Do I like to vape them?.....not so much as other flavorings, but many swear by them. Ciao!

HA! We LOVE our Nutriblast! Best thing since sliced bread as far as a quick meal goes.

Ok, maybe I will try it in Cream Fantastico when the rest of my stuff gets here. He may enjoy cream that way. That boy has the opposite taste (at least at this point) in that way...he's into the straight fruits, and not the terrific creams. I, on the other hand, don't care for the straight fruits all that much and love the creams.

So, once my blueberry gets here, I'll start working with that.

I may have settled on my danish flavor too. Maybe. I think making decisions at 0400 is silly-so I'll go back over my idea at a reasonable hour. Maybe one after I get sleep LOL Not that I see THAT happening anytime soon. UGH!

If you're into making healthy shakes and such, you definitely wanna get a vitamix. It is by far the best thing available and is the only one that will do tough veggies right.

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[b.m.]

just ordered these to play with

1 Blue Raspberry Flavor-15ml fl-383-sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 French Vanilla Creme-15ml fl-379_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Grape Candy Flavor-15ml fl-340_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Hazelnut Flavor-15ml fl_084_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Kiwi (Double) Flavor-4oz wh-197_sz1 $6.50 $6.50
1 Pie Crust Flavor-15ml fl-280_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Pomegranate Flavor-15ml fl-283_sz2 $3.80 $3.80
1 Rainbow Sherbet Flavor-1 oz fl-381-sz3 $5.00 $5.00
1 Sweet Cream Flavor-4oz

You have a similar order to mine,i got the 4oz. sweet cream,which i have already been using this flavor,but this is my first 4oz. bottle of it,i also ordered the rainbow sherbet,can't wait to try that one,and the french vanilla cream,both of those are the small 4ml samples though.I also got a 4oz. of the sweet orange that Bill swears by haha.If you like the taste of real hazlenuts,then you will like the tfa hazlenut flavor.I got that one in a trade a few weeks ago,and found a recipe for hazlenut cream,very good stuff.I will definitely be trying out the rainbow sherbet when my order gets here monday,so i'll post thoughts on it then.



This will be my first winter since i started vaping,and i can already see the cold weather is going to play hell on the juice.It is around 40 degrees today,and the juice's i have made at 70vg/30pg will barely wick in my protank,and wicking really slow in my fogger and orchid.Looks like my batches from now until spring are going to be 60/40 or even 50/50,nothing worse than a nasty burnt/dry hit.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

If you're into making healthy shakes and such, you definitely wanna get a vitamix. It is by far the best thing available and is the only one that will do tough veggies right.

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I looked at it. For my purposes, the nutriblast was best for me. In fact, I bought two. Neither a juicer, nor a blender, the nutriblast has specific uses that suit my purposes. If I was going to get a juicer, though, the vitamix would be my first choice.

 

[DebiK]

NICE!!!

If I have the energy, I'm going to start with the Danish Dough today. I'm thinking butter, donuts, cinnamon sugar cookie as a starting point with enhancements (vanilla (swirl) and creams (Bavarian and/or French vanilla) + Sweet).

I was looking through flavors and thinking almost the same thing. I don't have those, but plan on ordering them on my next order.

 

[DebiK]

This will be my first winter since i started vaping,and i can already see the cold weather is going to play hell on the juice.It is around 40 degrees today,and the juice's i have made at 70vg/30pg will barely wick in my protank,and wicking really slow in my fogger and orchid.Looks like my batches from now until spring are going to be 60/40 or even 50/50,nothing worse than a nasty burnt/dry hit.

I'm thinking of upping the PG too, for the winter. I have to make some juice before my hiking trip. I use to do only 50/50, so may do a 50/50 or 60/40 bottle of it just to be safe. It's not cold here yet, but I'm wearing shorts today and the wind makes it chilly! Supposed to be in the 40s tonight.

 

[tdtyler]

Good morning, ok last night I was planning my approach to this....glad I committed, it took my mind off things which was good....anyway this is what I came up with which may or may not work, either way, I'll learn something.

1) Danish recipe, I'm aiming 2/3 for Danish part, 1/3 for the fruit since fruit can be more stand alone, brighter in taste, and simpler I am hoping more or less if go single fruit, or fruit custard blend, I feel the complex part will be the dough, so I will start on dough part first since that will likely take more time for me, calculated my %'s for base recipes based on 20% final flavoring, know it could change, but trying to get ballpark idea.....so then Danish part, around 13% recipe, fruit aspect 7%, gives me plan to aim for and I can adjust as/if needed

2) looked at Bill's recipe, and think am going to use waffle as main component of dough part too, came up with trial blends to mix when supplies arrive, blindly have no idea how will turn out, live and learn right? Right before bed, thought of more pastry-ish minor flavors that tfa offers, wrote down in notes for consideration since did math for initial 3 dough attempts already, feel this part will take up more time initially.
3) fruits, decided will go with blueberry wild or lemon, with or without vanilla custard, this part looks easier for me, either 7% full fruit or 5%fruit/2% vc

These are just my basic plans how I'm going to approach, what I hope to learn....is dividing a complex recipe into fractions/flavor family sections a feasible way to approach it or should I look at it as whole from the get go for me? Am I underestimating fruits by always thinking they are "easy"? I've had luck with strawberry ripe, are blueberry wild and lemon going to be easy or more challenging? What portion of a recipe should I devote to first, the complex part or the presumed simpler? Working with main base and accent notes, how much % per flavor family should I give to my recipe?

Please remember, I'm newer to this so my plans may be silly or "off", but I need to do this, succeed or fail, I'll learn. I'll also have to see if 2/3 for dough/Danish/pastry is too much and if need to decrease to 1/2, if it comes out to being "hot mess" Danish, I'll have to rethink and reevaluate things. Really hope supplies come in soon, already 2 days too late, lol, so after these appts, I can get started, but again, this has become quite the welcomed mental distraction.

Wow. This looks like a really great organizational and tactical approach. You helped me already. I've been scratching my head wondering what might work for the "dough" part in case the Waffle doesn't cut it for me. I'm sure Bill is right on target, but I'm interested in seeing if a combination of "cake" and Waffle might be an improvement.

Bill, can you comment on what your results have been with cake and waffle? I know you've settled on waffle for the dough, but is there a reason you've not used cake, too? Vanilla Cupcake, Cinnamon Sugar Cookie also spring to mind as a dough component. Any comments?

 

[tdtyler]

I think you're on the gold here, Mom! I would not limit this to a 20% mix, but that's a great place to start. Also, I wouldn't worry about the basic dough so much, because it can be a secondary flavoring in many pastries, but it IS there, certainly. I like your thought process. Thank you for this!

Okay, I see that Bill made a list of TFA possibilities one message past Mom's that I was reading and commenting on. Still would be interested in Bill's experience trying other "dough" flavors besides the Waffle...

Tim

 

[b.m.]

Yeah 50/50 is what i started with,and back in march and april we were still getting fairly cold days,low 40's or so,and never had any problems in my protank then,so that's what i'll probably go to until next late april/early may.

 

[tdtyler]

NICE!!!

Might I suggest BUTTER, as well, dear Reni?

If I have the energy, I'm going to start with the Danish Dough today. I'm thinking butter, donuts, cinnamon sugar cookie as a starting point with enhancements (vanilla (swirl) and creams (Bavarian and/or French vanilla) + Sweet). I know there's a Danish dough recipe here somewhere. I've always focused on toppings in the past, because those are the primaries with a Danish vape. Mom made some excellent suggestions, though, so I thought I'd start my Danish adventure there. We really do have a lot to play with, and while most of them are unlikely to work, I just suspect there's magic around here. Also, given two weeks to work on a flavor allows a great deal of exploration, and I'm looking forward to that, something I really never do any more (take two weeks to work on a flavor, that is). Ciao!

Alright!!! More info that confirms what I was suspecting. Good one, Bill!!!!

Tim

 

[tdtyler]

Just a reminder that our TFA Vape Meet starts today,

1. Vanilla Cupcake
2. Waffle
3. Belgian Waffle
4. Acetyl Pyrazine
5. Graham Cracker
6. Cheesecake with Graham
7. Cinnamon Sugar Cookie
8. Rice Crunchies
9. Toasted Marshmallow
10. Gingerbread
11. Gingerbread Cookie
12. Pie Crust
13. Apple Pie
14. Berry Crunch
15. Banana Nut Bread
16. Frosted Donut Flavoring, and
17. Others including Butter

Sorry all... I wanted to bump just the list so I/we can come back to it.

Thanks, Bill.

Tim

 

[DebiK]

Just in case anyone is in need of glass droppers quickly...

I hit up Walmart and Kroger this week for glass droppers. I bought 11 packs, for a total of 22 droppers. They are Flents brand, 4 inch droppers and come 2 to a pack. One is curved and one straight. I tested them and they seem to drop the same. Walmart sells them for $1.47 and Kroger for .99. Averaged price with tax is .64 per dropper. The 12 pack on Amazon averages .73 each, with shipping. I wish I had known they were cheaper at Kroger. I would have went to a couple and bought them all there.

 

[Mrscorbin24]

Did anyone ever work on a Orange/Wintergreen Mix?

 

[b.m.]

Just in case anyone is in need of glass droppers quickly...

I hit up Walmart and Kroger this week for glass droppers. I bought 11 packs, for a total of 22 droppers. They are Flents brand, 4 inch droppers and come 2 to a pack. One is curved and one straight. I tested them and they seem to drop the same. Walmart sells them for $1.47 and Kroger for .99. Averaged price with tax is .64 per dropper. The 12 pack on Amazon averages .73 each, with shipping. I wish I had known they were cheaper at Kroger. I would have went to a couple and bought them all there.

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Your lucky you found them.After seeing this i went to 2 different krogers,walmart,cvs,and walgreens,and got the same answer from all of them,"we haven't carried those in a few years".all of them here switched to the little cheap plastic ones.

 

[DebiK]

Your lucky you found them.After seeing this i went to 2 different krogers,walmart,cvs,and walgreens,and got the same answer from all of them,"we haven't carried those in a few years".all of them here switched to the little cheap plastic ones.

Sorry to hear that Bill. I bought some a few years ago for essential oils, so went back for more. I guess I need to stock up just in case they stop carrying them around here.

 

[b.m.]

I thought for sure at least 1 would have them,but one of them said the reason they stopped selling them is because the plastic is safer than putting glass in your mouth,especially if giving babies medicine,which makes sense,but they should still offer both,since glass is easier to clean,but oh well,the trip wasn't a total loss,while at walmart i was able to confirm ren's suspicion that the lorann cream cheese i seen is in fact the emulsion,which sucks because the flavoring is a 1oz. bottle for around $6 plus shipping,and the one i seen was a 4oz. for $3.59,but since it's not the right stuff i'm glad i didn't pick it up the first time i seen it.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

LorAnn has a Cream Cheese Emulsion and a Cream Cheese Icing Flavor. They are two different products.

 

[DebiK]

Yeah, I looked at the Cream Cheese flavoring as well. Was sad to see it was the emulsion. I didn't get to Michael's to check their selection yet. I'll probably just order the icing flavor online.