I use flavors generally between 20% - 30%. Perfumery/Chemical/Floral notes are not caused by too much flavoring, but by not having the proper mix of flavorings, among other reasons. I have a blog about this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-how-eliminate-chemical-floral-notes-mix.html
It is possible to make a mix and taste the chemical floral notes, but that is easily remedied.
Regarding your many failed creations, I couldn't say what the problem was without seeing the recipes, but I don't think the recipes on this thread are failures, at all. In fact, not only do I like them, but my family likes them, and they are used on a number of commercial juice lines in the marketplace. Give some that interest you a try and see for yourself. Here's some of my rules of thumb:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...t-juice-average-flavoring-percentages-me.html
Regarding general health, I would posit that vaping is probably not harmless, though I couldn't tell you how harmful, and so I always recommend that one do their own research and vape at their own risk. If I was worried about my general health, I probably would not have smoked for 35 years, or vaped since 2009. To each their own. Good luck to you!
Actually, today I've noticed the issue was related to VG I was using. It was not great and looks like it was affecting the taste. I have changed it to a good company which name starts with M and looks like the taste issue is gone. However, the main problem I noticed is the sweetner or etil maltol. Whenever I use these at %0.5 or %1, both kills the flavor. I got perfumers sweetner and Ethyl Maltol I made also some brands. I've tried all and I got so much flavor decrease when I use them. Is there any other sweetner that is not decreasing other flavors ? I see you have used %2 sweetner in your some recipes and I'm shocked how it doesnt kill the other flavors. I just read your threads and I like them, very useful.
I have not personally noticed that the Sweetener, nor Cotton Candy detracts from the flavoring. In fact, you're the first to say this, that I've heard, so it may be your tasted sensitivity at this time. In fact, most people notice a pronounced improvement in taste with the addition of sweetener and cotton candy. They don't kill the flavor whatsoever for me.Thanks for help
Another question is how do you steep your juices ? Do you make cap off for 24 hours ? I do it sometimes because the alcohol flavors makes the liquid harsh.
Here is my perfumers recipe recently I made and 15 days passed, flavor is stil not enough.
Acetyl Pyrazine %1 (I have noticed this makes so much harsh even at %1, maybe I should use it at %0,5 or 24 hours cap off)
Banana Cream %5
DX Caramel %3,3
Peanut Butter %4
Ethyl Maltol %1
total flavor: 13.3
15 days have been passed, all I get from above is barely a bit banana and nothing else. What would be your ratio suggestion for above mix ? I will try your recipes tonight
Thanks for help
Another question is how do you steep your juices ? Do you make cap off for 24 hours ? I do it sometimes because the alcohol flavors makes the liquid harsh.
Here is my perfumers recipe recently I made and 15 days passed, flavor is stil not enough.
Acetyl Pyrazine %1 (I have noticed this makes so much harsh even at %1, maybe I should use it at %0,5 or 24 hours cap off)
Banana Cream %5
DX Caramel %3,3
Peanut Butter %4
Ethyl Maltol %1
total flavor: 13.3
15 days have been passed, all I get from above is barely a bit banana and nothing else. What would be your ratio suggestion for above mix ? I will try your recipes tonight
The Fire and Ice and 54 Fireball will eat right through your plastic, so be careful. When my mix turned milky I knew it was from the juice flavorings, so be careful. People vape this stuff?
54 Fireball
FW Fireball - 4%
Cinnamon Red Hots - 4%
Bavarian Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 4%
Sweetener - 4%
I know that many Fireball recipes call for a lot more red hots, or whatever. This was as hot as I can take it, myself. How do people vape this stuff? This will flat out take your mind off girls.....Wwwoooohhhhh! Strong stuff! Ok two down.....mouth on fire....
The Fire and Ice and 54 Fireball will eat right through your plastic, so be careful. When my mix turned milky I knew it was from the juice flavorings, so be careful. People vape this stuff?
54 Fireball
FW Fireball - 4%
Cinnamon Red Hots - 4%
Bavarian Cream - 4%
Vanilla Swirl - 4%
Sweetener - 4%
I know that many Fireball recipes call for a lot more red hots, or whatever. This was as hot as I can take it, myself. How do people vape this stuff. This will flat out take your mind off girls.....Wwwoooohhhhh! Strong stuff! Ok two down.....mouth on fire....
I probably worked harder on this recipe than on anything else. This took about a year, and I tried it yesterday, and I still like it very much:Bill,
As a take off of the Orange Creamsickle my boy asked me mix him some up without the Sweet Orange, and wanted some Vanilla Custard (he loves him his custards)...what percentage do you suggest I start out with?
Thx in advance!
Bill's Magic Vapor
You should write up this procedure in detail and blog it my friend! We need these instructions available to point to for the new members who don't know this stuff!If you mix your Red Hots first in the base, this will usually help prevent the "milk man" effect....
(Followed by the Fireball).
Then add the remainder of your ingredients....usually does the trick!
or
Mix your Red Hots and Fireball with whatever amount of PG you are adding, or figure in some PGA ( a small amount ) this will help!
If I remember correctly the trouble is that Red Hots and Fireball are not water soluble...
TFA does now have a water soluble Red Hots, but I'm not sure on the Fireball.
You should write up this procedure in detail and blog it my friend! We need these instructions available to point to for the new members who don't know this stuff!
