The future of vaping?

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trishdadish

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i totally agree that some standardization would be great. increased availability via brick and mortar stores so that the curious dont have to spend months on the web wading through garbage products that dont work as they claim. sonwe dont have to plunk down our credit cards and hope our shipmrnt comes through in the mail. however, I do love all my choices right now, and I worry that if tge bigger players get involved, theyll find a way to squash them in the nane if capturing market share.
 

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A few thoughts after reading this thread...

My biggest concern would be possible regulations imposed once the gubment sees tax dollar loss, and the big tobacco companies lose money. As someone stated, I would stay as far away from a big tobacco pv product as I'd be scared of what else they'd possibly add to get people more addicted.

At first I agreed that the general masses would want hassle free cig-a-likes, but after thinking about it, once vaping becomes more popular, what's "trendy" and common will quickly change. Nobody smoker that has seen my eGo/stardust setup has ever said anything negative about the size or look of it, and after a few months of vaping I don't feel odd whipping it out among the masses either. I've yet to see anyone puffing on an eGo in public, but a lot of the people that see mine easily identify it as an "ecig."

Put an eGo in a movie, music video etc... it will be the norm.
 

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Ive spoken to everyone from alcoholics (ok just one lol), weed smokers and straight people, they all are image conscious to some extent. None of them would be caught dead in public using the larger devices and I don't blame them....I couldn't do it either.
I use the iHybrid, Provari, Zenesis and wooden box mods in public and without shame. To help your scientific research, here is more about me: I am straight and I drink far more scotch than I should. Your comment suggests that you are a bit too concerned with your own propensities.
 

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2 points...

Everyone Ive spoken to has been in their 20's apart from one guy who is 30 so a relatively young crowd. Perhaps people older don't care as much but what they look like or what others think? I don't know.

Secondly I understand mini ecigs have been disappointing so far and many feel they need to upgrade. But most did begin with a small ecigs because that's what they truly wanted. They only upgraded because they were not happy with the smaller ones. Maybe you guys are happy with big devices but that was usually AFTER trying the small ones.

I can't see ecigs taking off in a big way until we have great performing mini ecigs. When the mini ecigs old in gas stations impress people then the movement will take off IMO.
OK so your thinking is "young" people are superficial well I'm 25 my wife is 22 and we aren't concerned with vanity like you seem to be. So what if people don't know what I'm using/doing I'm not doing it for them. The only good point you seem to make is more people will try of the cigalikes get better. So why not leave it at that instead of trolling a site made for the people who love vaping or want to know more about it. You seem stuck in your thought process. So why even be on this forum?
 

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Nicotine extraction as well as a host of other uses for tobacco.

Can you name some of those other uses? As I understand it, when the method for nicotine extraction is used, it renders the leaf unusable thereafter. Also if extraction is the end game, then they will find stronger strains of tobacco, which could in turn be more toxic when being farmed.
 

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Can you name some of those other uses? As I understand it, when the method for nicotine extraction is used, it renders the leaf unusable thereafter. Also if extraction is the end game, then they will find stronger strains of tobacco, which could in turn be more toxic when being farmed.
Nicotian tabacum can be used as an insecticide and repellent for farmers and gardeners alike as well as some potential as a pain reliever. The misuse of tobacco falls upon our shoulders. Honestly, I am sure ......... farmers once asked, what will I do now that it is illegal? Answer, grow something else or continue to farm tobacco for export to countries that have outlawed e-cigarettes.
 

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Nicotian tabacum can be used as an insecticide and repellent for farmers and gardeners alike as well as some potential as a pain reliever. The misuse of tobacco falls upon our shoulders. Honestly, I am sure ......... farmers once asked, what will I do now that it is illegal? Answer, grow something else or continue to farm tobacco for export to countries that have outlawed e-cigarettes.

I am sorry I don't follow your thoughts. Can you please clarify?
 

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haven't we gotten a little off topic? I see vaping becoming illegal unless wee can get together and prove that this is safe. I live in Canada, and juice with nicotine its illegal. shipments get stopped at the border all the time. I would love to see it more mainstream, but unless we get someone representing our interests inn parliament, I could see my great hobby becoming completely unavailable. ..... and I never want to see that day. excuse the bad writing, Dan auto correct!
 

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haven't we gotten a little off topic? I see vaping becoming illegal unless wee can get together and prove that this is safe. I live in Canada, and juice with nicotine its illegal. shipments get stopped at the border all the time. I would love to see it more mainstream, but unless we get someone representing our interests inn parliament, I could see my great hobby becoming completely unavailable. ..... and I never want to see that day. excuse the bad writing, Dan auto correct!
Concern doesn't lay with its safety as much as it does with the loss in revenue from taxes that would otherwise be paid for with analogs. E-Cigarettes, or to be more accurate, the juice will be regulated and taxed to a point that will be comparable to what we would be paying for the equivalent in tobacco products. When this happens it will be business as it used to be, you can buy your pack of Marlboro cartridges from the local gas station. For me however, I have an extremely large quantity of nicotine juice which is the only thing they can possibly regulate.

I will never smoke again so if they outlaw it fully, I will just be a criminal.
 

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Concern doesn't lay with its safety as much as it does with the loss in revenue from taxes that would otherwise be paid for with analogs. E-Cigarettes, or to be more accurate, the juice will be regulated and taxed to a point that will be comparable to what we would be paying for the equivalent in tobacco products. When this happens it will be business as it used to be, you can buy your pack of Marlboro cartridges from the local gas station. For me however, I have an extremely large quantity of nicotine juice which is the only thing they can possibly regulate.

I will never smoke again so if they outlaw it fully, I will just be a criminal.


I totally agree with you that I would rather beca criminal than smoke again, and I dread the day they start taxing my little bottles of ejuice at 80% just like they do cigsrettes.
 

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i totally agree that some standardization would be great. increased availability via brick and mortar stores so that the curious dont have to spend months on the web wading through garbage products that dont work as they claim

Oh, you mean like Blu and other gas station cigalike disposables? "200-300 puffs" my hairy fundament!
 

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I had a dream one night, a wierd one, there was a newspaper ad "Provari, with 2TB of data"
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One day maybe we can "download" our juices into storage and then select and vape hahaha

That is actually scary in a disturbing kinda way..... :(

Back on topic though, I am getting this feeling (captain obvious) that majority seems to feel its only inevitable for the benefits of vaping; especially on the price point, to be taken away from us. I


I would have though that vaping would have been embraced as a very very good healthy alternative to analogs. If what most fear here comes to pass, then what that may mean is that taxes for our e-juices will go up to the point where buying an e-liquid could cost 5 times more than what they cost now, but doesn't that also mean that costs of analogs would go up too? Unless governments are trying to say its better to smoke analogs than it is to vape.

How is this making any sense?
 

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Oh, you mean like Blu and other gas station cigalike disposables? "200-300 puffs" my hairy fundament!

lol.... if in ten years battery tech gets 3-5 times better than what it is now (and i believe it will), we can have minis with batteries a third of their current size with double the performance as the standard battery spec. Think along the lines of a mini with a 1.5" long battery rated at 400mah (again, its possible!!). That theoretically will give room for cartos that can hold 2-3ml of vuice (again as a standard) so in ten years, blu will be nothing more than a collection of flavors in a pack of cartos that are really good for 250+ puffs per cart.

This could all happen, unless the world stops spinning of course or technology just goes to sleep for the next couple of years. My only real concern, is when we can start getting so much with so much ease... what will they take away. there is always something.

WOW. Now there's a game-changer. Not just in the future for mods and cig-a-likes, but.. I'm thinking electric cars! Aww yeah!

cars are exactly what they had in mind with that tech.... there is something else even better, though a little further away... too lazy to grab the link, its called lithium air batteries...... when you guys read that stuff up, well.... all I can see its that it simply would be nothing short of a vapers wet dream come true.

think of it this way, the more you vape, the better ur batteries perform.
 
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