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The general dislike of BLU

Discussion in 'Blu Electronic Cigarettes' started by toddbrennan, May 29, 2013.

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  1. the_vape_nerd

    the_vape_nerd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2011
    New Orleans, LA
    Please cite a source to this "impending regulation". As far as I know, they were to propose a "deeming" regulation that just makes electronic cigarettes and/or nic juice a tobacco product. These things are published in the federal register and last I heard they were due in April of this year and this has been delayed.
     
  2. ClippinWings

    ClippinWings Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2011
    The OC
    I think, in the end, Blu is owned by Lorillard...

    I've given enough of my money and my health to Big Tobacco over the years... anything I can do to prevent that now, I will.
     
  3. ClippinWings

    ClippinWings Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2011
    The OC
    Wow... you do know their parent company is actively working to outlaw any liquid not sold in pre-filled cartos and heavily tax said cartos. In addition to testing and licensing requirements that would be prohibitively expensive on smaller e-cigarettes and liquid manufacturers... effectively running all high end e-cigarette companies and mom and pop businesses... out of business.

    There is something very wrong with Lorillard.
     
  4. Mrtrucker40108

    Mrtrucker40108 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 17, 2011
    Brandenburg, KY, USA
    I was referring to the deeming regulation.
    Do you think of it as 'just making electronic cigarettes and/or nic juice tobacco products' ?
     
  5. Uncle Willie

    Uncle Willie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Business is business .. a public company will do what is necessary to profit .. shareholders have this odd need to make money ..

    As well, a company will do what it is allowed to do ..

    The Mom and Pops can band together, pool resources and create their own lobby ..
     
  6. presidentk1

    presidentk1 Full Member

    May 27, 2013
    USA
    M&P stores shouldn't have to form a lobby to combat the greed of BT

    this was one of my reasons for returning my blu without even trying it

    i read it sucks, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't

    but trying to force us vapors into buying only pre-filled cartos at a ridiculous markup is reason enough not to support them
     
  7. Uncle Willie

    Uncle Willie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'm afraid the reality of it is they do need to form their own lobby .. and before it's too late .. keep in mind, the Mom and Pops are in for the money as well .. they don't sell out of the kindness of their heart .. the profit motive has driven our Country from the get go ..

    I'm as much for American small business as anyone .. I am, in fact, a small business owner .. but small business has no right to whine unless they do whatever they can to protect themselves ..
     
  8. ClippinWings

    ClippinWings Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2011
    The OC
    But where they differ is M&P are in the business of selling e-Cigarettes ... getting people to quit smoking and switch the eCigs.

    BT is in the business of keeping people addicted... Lorillard was to say, spend $150 million for the right to look like they wanted to do what was best for the eCigarette ... and then use that position to support legislation that would outlaw the products that actually keep people off cigarettes... that's a smart investment...

    Don't think for a second that Lorillard has any interest in reducing the number of smokers...

    Like you said... it's about profits.
     
  9. Uncle Willie

    Uncle Willie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    It about profit whether it be BT or Mom and Pop ..

    Mom and Pop profit when someone switches to the PV .. and without that, there would be no Mom and Pop .. no matter how they spin it
     
  10. presidentk1

    presidentk1 Full Member

    May 27, 2013
    USA
    there is a big difference between the profit seeking habits of a M&P and that of BT

    M&Ps aren't pushing for regulations that hurt the consumer, they are transparent in their motives
    they sell a product, make a reasonable profit, everyone is happy.

    BT wants to either 1) eliminate ecigs entirely or 2) make so that only companies as large as them can operate in the market

    you cant say the two are similar just because they are for-profit companies
     
  11. ClippinWings

    ClippinWings Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2011
    The OC

    If you think a Blu Cigalike works as well as a... let's say Provari.... You're delusional.

    Lorillard has a vested interest in not only driving out competition for eCig business... but also driving away viable alternatives to smoking.
     
  12. Pazazu

    Pazazu Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 17, 2013
    North Carolina
    I started out with Blu myself, and ended up going back to regular cigs. The batteries didn't last long enough for me, and wasn't getting nearly enough nicotine to satisfy my habit.

    It just varies from one smoker to the next. I finally ended up getting an eVic after a friend telling me how good they are, and now im on my way to a mech mod.
     
  13. the_vape_nerd

    the_vape_nerd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2011
    New Orleans, LA
    That is all it does. It basically will say "this is a tobacco product and is now subject to our regulatory jurisdiction".

    I would assume that some of the bigger e-cig players might file suit immediately to claim it's not necessarily a tobacco product. On that point, they will probably lose but they could argue that selling non-nic juice isn't a tobacco product, among other things.

    After this deeming regulation, they will come out with the actual regulations which specify what can be sold, how it can be sold, to whom and what documents they will accept as proof of compliance. This is where the problem is and why Blu's memo is of concern. I mean how do they know that 90% of the other e-cigs will not be around "in the coming months"?

    They know it because they've come to some kind of back-room agreement with the regulators.

    This isn't personal. I'm not trying to insult anyone by using the term "naive", but I mean, people should know what they are up against. And every dollar you give this company is going to be used against our small vendors.
     
  14. MMcQ

    MMcQ Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 28, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    Still got my blu's and still use them at least once a day. The cart's? Nah, i stick v-nanos on them and they satisfy the occasional urge for a real cigarette. I think its more just the way I hold it then the fact that its an auto. The rest of the time I prefer manuals for battery life and control. I get bored easily so having a couple options to get my nicotine keeps me interested and busy:vapor:my advice is to go with whatever works for you that you can afford. A little tinkering can go a long way and mixing and matching up carts, tanks, atty's and the like can be alot of fun if you have the patience. Good luck!
     
  15. Mrtrucker40108

    Mrtrucker40108 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 17, 2011
    Brandenburg, KY, USA
    I've been a bb/chat/forum junkie for about twenty years... I always assume the other poster means well.. prevents butthurts. :)
     
  16. Smac

    Smac Full Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Oklahoma
    My first ecig was a blu starter kit but that was when they gave you 2 "306" style attys instead of prefilled cartos.

    Pros: Small size - Easily concealed
    Good flavor - Thanks to JC



    Cons: Short battery life
    Burnt attys
    Short lived Overpriced Carts


    Nowadays I prefer 18650 mods
     
  17. wv2win

    wv2win ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2009
    GA by way of WV
    I loved my first car which was a beat up Voltswagen Beetle. Over the years, I have now owned about 15 different automobiles. Now that I have owned 15 different cars and driven probably 40 different cars, I would not go back to the Beetle.

    Once you have comparative experience, it makes all the difference.
     
  18. Myrany

    Myrany Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 14, 2013
    Louisiana
    SInce the blu batterys are 510 you can use standard cartomizers on them and any juice you want.

    - Multi-Pack Deals

    Has excellent deals on unpunched Cartos (blank/no flavor fill your own). You want unpunched. The punched ones are for tanks and will leak all over the place if used on their own.

    Just an option if you find you would like to try other juices while keeping your blu system. :)
     
  19. bunnomatic

    bunnomatic Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2013
    Conway,SC
    If you are satisfied it doesn't matter at all what anybody else thinks!
     
  20. SinX7

    SinX7 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2013
    Las Vegas, NV USA
    If it works for you then keep using it! But IF it does not work for you anymore, you can jump into a eGO Twist, a good way to start IMO.
     
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