The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

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DonCon

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Hello everyone!! Lately I've been feeling like it was time to give up on my lemo drop. None of the builds I was making were working. When I was using it on my sigelei I could never get a continuous vape. I tried 28, 26, and 24g kanthal. All different ohm levels ranging from .7 to 1.2 and those levels anywhere from 12 to 24w id get one or two great hits than nothing but dry. I think my problem was when I had made a great coil I did not have the proper wicking, and in return when I wicked it properly I must have had a hot leg or some other problem with the coil.

We'll today is different. Today I build a .072 build with ni200 28g twisted. I'm vaping it at 400 degree and 20.5j and it is absolutely amazing. I love that I gave it one last chance.


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Guess I can answer that Jumpin.....seeing as I coined the phrase. Wicking chunky is just another way of saying wick it heavy...I didn't realize it would catch on....lol. I use kgd ... cotton and wick so heavy that I can't pull the wick through the coil by just pulling one end of it. I roll the cotton down pretty firm (not hard) and then roll the end down hard to form a point. Then I feed that end through the coil just like everyone else. Then to get the heavy wicking through the coil I grab both ends of the wick and pull. The pulling from both ends calapses the wick enough to slide it into the coil. Then when I let go of the ends the wick re-expands inside the coil. This technique allows me chain vape the stuffing outta all my rtas at 35w with 75 vg without thinning wick tails. Thats wicking chunky!



Right? But no. Those harsh hits are caused by excessive juice flooding the wick before vacuum forms in the tank. Usually right after refilling (normal). Turn up the power to compensate.

Chunky wick picks up juice from the juice well and transports juice into the coil very fast. Even faster after a tank or two when it breaks in (breaks down actually). And there's the key to wick longevity... I could wick lighter and get big clouds and flavor right away but then I'm having to re-wick after every 15ml or so. With chunky wicking I have to live with less than optimal vapor and flavor production for a tank or two but then the wick breaks in and I'm good to go for at least 60ml. Honestly I'm just to lazy to do it any other way...

Hope this helps

I've been wicking just as you for quite some time. I never subscribed to the "whispy" cotton wick. I've always found more was better. Not only does it seem to deliver better flavor for me, it tends to eliminate the surprise POP! when you light up a cold coil. It just works better.

While there is a limit to how much is reasonable, I generally use enough that tension is require on the opposite end of the wick when pulling the cotton through the coil to keep from distorting it, even on 26ga coils.

At least now what I do has an official name. ;)
 

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I've been wicking just as you for quite some time. I never subscribed to the "whispy" cotton wick. I've always found more was better. Not only does it seem to deliver better flavor for me, it tends to eliminate the surprise POP! when you light up a cold coil. It just works better.

While there is a limit to how much is reasonable, I generally use enough that tension is require on the opposite end of the wick when pulling the cotton through the coil to keep from distorting it, even on 26ga coils.

At least now what I do has an official name. ;)


Whispy Wick....lol...sounds great! A pretty good description of the wicking density I used back in my Protanks days.
 

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Today I twisted 2 pieces of 30 gauge and then reverse another piece of 30 gauge on that. 8 wraps on 3mm came out to 1.6 ohms. Pretty tasty!

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DonCon

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.072 dia and ni200 twisted wire. How many wraps and what resistance did you end up with?
I'm not sure what you asking but ill try and answer, the resistance was .072 I think I wrapped it on a 2mm. 5 spaced wraps. Today I did 6 wraps and it ended up at .092


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Chunky wick picks up juice from the juice well and transports juice into the coil very fast. Even faster after a tank or two when it breaks in (breaks down actually). And there's the key to wick longevity... I could wick lighter and get big clouds and flavor right away but then I'm having to re-wick after every 15ml or so. With chunky wicking I have to live with less than optimal vapor and flavor production for a tank or two but then the wick breaks in and I'm good to go for at least 60ml. Honestly I'm just to lazy to do it any other way...

I couldn't agree with this more! I wick this way and find by about the second or third refill... these things are flawless. I find myself tinkering with the air flow till it breaks in real good.
 
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Alright...spending some time examining my Drop and have a couple of questions:
Do most use the plastic ring thing to fill the fill hole or the screw?
How many Orings should be in it when assembled? Not counting the ring with nubs to use to fill the fill hole.
One at top and one at bottom of plastic tank piece. Mine only had one, and when I add one at each end it seems to not want to screw together completely
 

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I don't use the fill screw, I use the silicon ring. And yes, one flat silicon o'ring at each end of the glass tank.
(I'm assumming my full size Lemos are the same as the Drop, so someone correct me if I'm steering him wrong)
Yep,the full size and the drop are exactly the same.
If you are having trouble getting it together when adding the other o-ring,then it sounds like maybe there are 2 stuck together at one end.Pull them out,and check them good,also look very close because they are almost clear when in position,so there may be one there even if it doesn't look like it.A few times i thought mine fell out because i didn't see it,but after looking closer it was still there.
 
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Does the amount of the wick ears make a difference with the juice flow? with my lower chimney on, my wick reaches above about 1/8" and when I tuck it down, I make sure the juice channel stays clear.

But, the reason I ask is that I have taken a few (4-5) drawers and noticed the temp go up and then I have to cover the airholes and draw some juice through to the wick/coil.
 

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Does the amount of the wick ears make a difference with the juice flow? with my lower chimney on, my wick reaches above about 1/8" and when I tuck it down, I make sure the juice channel stays clear.

But, the reason I ask is that I have taken a few (4-5) drawers and noticed the temp go up and then I have to cover the airholes and draw some juice through to the wick/coil.
I've struggled with that a bit too,and don't understand why.When i first got mine,i used the installed coil and wick,and never ever got a dry hit.when i replaced the wick,it was packed in there,they used a lot of cotton and iteven covered the channels.I replaced the wick,kept the channels uncovered,and if i let it sit a while,i would get a dry hit on my first draw,then it was ok.Here lately,i have been leaving a lot more wick in the chamber,still making sure not to cover the channels,but more tail off the coil has seemed to help mine a lot,i've been running it for almost a week now with no dry hits,so i would try leaving more wick,then wet it,and just move it away from the channel after you put the chamber on.I don't go any longer,but make sure not to trim any off of the thickness of the tails,i leave them as thick as they are after pulling through the coil.
 
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I don't get dry hits, I get hotter hits. I think it is just because I am not getting enough juice to the actual coil area. Also, air flow. I think I am just pushing the system because I am vaping 6mg nic and need 36mg nic. :cry:

Was just wondering if more wick was better than just...average wick.
 
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Yep,the full size and the drop are exactly the same.
If you are having trouble getting it together when adding the other o-ring,then it sounds like maybe there are 2 stuck together at one end.Pull them out,and check them good,also look very close because they are almost clear when in position,so there may be one there even if it doesn't look like it.A few times i thought mine fell out because i didn't see it,but after looking closer it was still there.
What made me feel silly is when I was try to use compressed air to blow one of my seals out of the top cap and it turned out that it wasn't even in there, It was stuck to the glass tank section!:facepalm:
 

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What made me feel silly is when I was try to use compressed air to blow one of my seals out of the top cap and it turned out that it wasn't even in there, It was stuck to the glass tank section!:facepalm:
I haven't tried the compressed air,but i can definitely relate to sticking to the glass.A few times i have had that not just on the lemo,but a few others as well,i never think to look on the glass,i'll spend like 10 minutes looking around the floor,in the sink,etc. before i even think to check the glass haha.
 
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I don't get dry hits, I get hotter hits. I think it is just because I am not getting enough juice to the actual coil area. Also, air flow. I think I am just pushing the system because I am vaping 6mg nic and need 36mg nic. :cry:

Was just wondering if more wick was better than just...average wick.
In my case,more wick has solved my issue,so i would say it's worth a shot.Wow,36mg is alot,i started at 24mg and after about 4 months dropped to 18mg,but i don't think i'll drop down any farther than that any time soon.The drop from 24 to 18 was rough,i couldn't imagine trying to go from 36 to 6 i'd go nuts haha.
 
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