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Here's my grandmother's meatloaf recipe.

2 pounds lean ground beef
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon seasoned salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
3 slices bread, soaked in 1/2 cup skim milk
1 large onion, grated
1 clove garlic, minced
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
3 tablespoons chili sauce
1 teaspoon dry mustard.

Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

Combine all ingredients and mix well. Pat the meat mixture into a loaf shape, and place on an oiled, flat baking dish.

I like to put a topping on it of 2 parts ketchup, 1 part molasses. Make enough to cover the loaf and it makes a nice gooey topping that's out of this world.

Bake 50 to 60 minutes.
 

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Here's my grandmother's meatloaf recipe.

2 pounds lean ground beef
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon seasoned salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
3 slices bread, soaked in 1/2 cup skim milk
1 large onion, grated
1 clove garlic, minced
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
3 tablespoons chili sauce
1 teaspoon dry mustard.

Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

Combine all ingredients and mix well. Pat the meat mixture into a loaf shape, and place on an oiled, flat baking dish.

I like to put a topping on it of 2 parts ketchup, 1 part molasses. Make enough to cover the loaf and it makes a nice gooey topping that's out of this world.

Bake 50 to 60 minutes.
That does look good, and very similar to how my mom made hers. Although I never saw a head of garlic in my mom's house, just the powered or garlic salt.

Copying that to my saved recipes. Thanks!

Here's a link I wanted to share for the doggie peeps here.
I can't remember if Dale origianlly posted it, but I know she'll approve. :laugh:
I'm going to try it for Rita and see if it helps with her allergies. :)

Ottawa Valley Dog Whisperer : Rooibos Tea for Dogs - Immune System Health, Cancer Inhibitor, Allergy Mediator
 

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Happy anniversary Sara! :)
Glad you joined us!


Definitely try them out, might be DOA :unsure:


Right ;)
And please, call me Dale :)


:lol:

Sorry!! :p





I was already off doing stuff, had to bone out a big ole pork .... that wouldn't fit the crock-pot. Washed hair, dressed, made bed ... stuff ;)

Thank you, Dale. :)
 
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Here's my grandmother's meatloaf recipe.

2 pounds lean ground beef
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon seasoned salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
3 slices bread, soaked in 1/2 cup skim milk
1 large onion, grated
1 clove garlic, minced
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
3 tablespoons chili sauce
1 teaspoon dry mustard.

Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

Combine all ingredients and mix well. Pat the meat mixture into a loaf shape, and place on an oiled, flat baking dish.

I like to put a topping on it of 2 parts ketchup, 1 part molasses. Make enough to cover the loaf and it makes a nice gooey topping that's out of this world.

Bake 50 to 60 minutes.

Yum!! That sounds good too!! Thanks for sharing the recipe.
 

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>.<

I cringe every time I read something like this.

It's like this so called expert, Johnathan Self who sells books touting raw diets for dogs.

In it he claims:

Jonathan Self on Dog Food | Five Books | Five Books

"Dogs in the wild aren’t planning five servings of vegetables per day. Dogs can go a week without eating. If you're giving your dog raw meat and bone in roughly the right proportion you can't really go wrong. And then you think, well, from time to time a wild dog might find an egg, so I'll throw in an egg. Or they might find some fish, so you could give them a tin of pilchards"

There's a fallacy to this, however.

Dogs have been bred away from wolves for hundreds of years now. There are some breeds (such the Bedlington Terrier) who are prone to nutritional deficiencies. While raw diets have gained in popularity over the past decade, the jury is still out on whether it's actually better for the dog. And most vets will tell you that you still need to add vegetables (slightly cooked and ground) to round out the nutritional requirements that the dog needs.

You touched on the bacteria issue. We humans (almost) always have to cook meat. I don't know how that happened. Is that because we learned cooking so long ago that we've adapted to it?

I don't think so. I think it's because we never used to eat meat. We're cooking partly for the flavour and partly because we're trying to kill off bad things. Our stomachs aren't actually designed to deal with raw meat.

Meanwhile raw chicken, even chicken bones when they’re raw, is good for dogs.

All bones are good for dogs. The thing is, an older animal will have harder bones, so there is a risk of a dog chipping its tooth. And some dogs are very greedy so they try to gulp the bone down really quickly, and that can cause a problem. But, basically, dogs can digest bones. Chicken bones are particularly soft, which is why we always suggest starting with a chicken bone, because the dog needs to adjust to the idea of its new diet.

But compared to humans they don't have a problem with bacteria, as we do when eating meat?

None at all, no.

And now we have a serious issue.

From an individual who has her Master's in animal nutrition. The Raw Debate | Modern Dog magazine

The Risks
Safety
. Raw diets have been found to contain Salmonella, Campylobacter, Escherichia coli O157:H7, Clostridium perfringens, Clostridium botulinium, and Staphylococcus aureus, all of which are known human and canine pathogens. These bacteria are shed in dog stools and may be transferred to carpets and furniture as the dog moves around the house. These pathogens usually only pose a serious human risk to the immuno-compromised, the elderly, and young children; however, this is a very important consideration if you are feeding a raw diet and have people in these risk groups living in your home.

In addition, there is a potential risk to dogs from certain pathogens found in raw foods, such as Neospora caninum, found in raw beef, Nanophyetus salmincola, found in raw salmon, and Trichinella spiralis, which is found in raw pork and wild game such as deer, elk, and moose. All of these pathogens can make your dog sick and are potentially fatal.

Feeding bones can cause choking, intestinal blockage or perforations, and chipped or broken teeth.

So, who to believe? My money is on the nutritional expert rather than someone who's shilling a book to make $$$.

Now, don't get me wrong, raw diets are great for dogs, but if you take what this yahoo is saying at face value and just feed them meat and bone, you're doing a huge disservice to your pet.

So now we have individuals recommending "holistic" remedies for our pets. Sorry. While they may have every decent intention in the world, I'm not about to take some "unkown" on the Internet at face value and start placing my dogs at risk.
 

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    Might just have a *WINNER* here!!! :banana::banana::banana:
    :D


    I'm getting ready to make a grilled cheese with a couple thin slices of some deli style ham. :)
    Yep, you better nap while you have that quiet opportunity. ;)
    Not having much luck but at least it's quiet ;)

    I'll second or third the meatloaf :thumb:
     

    LoriP1702

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    >.<

    I cringe every time I read something like this.

    It's like this so called expert, Johnathan Self who sells books touting raw diets for dogs.

    In it he claims:

    Jonathan Self on Dog Food | Five Books | Five Books



    There's a fallacy to this, however.

    Dogs have been bred away from wolves for hundreds of years now. There are some breeds (such the Bedlington Terrier) who are prone to nutritional deficiencies. While raw diets have gained in popularity over the past decade, the jury is still out on whether it's actually better for the dog. And most vets will tell you that you still need to add vegetables (slightly cooked and ground) to round out the nutritional requirements that the dog needs.



    And now we have a serious issue.

    From an individual who has her Master's in animal nutrition. The Raw Debate | Modern Dog magazine



    So, who to believe? My money is on the nutritional expert rather than someone who's shilling a book to make $$$.

    Now, don't get me wrong, raw diets are great for dogs, but if you take what this yahoo is saying at face value and just feed them meat and bone, you're doing a huge disservice to your pet.

    So now we have individuals recommending "holistic" remedies for our pets. Sorry. While they may have every decent intention in the world, I'm not about to take some "unkown" on the Internet at face value and start placing my dogs at risk.

    I don't buy into the feeding raw (sorry Lynn, but to each his own, for sure ;) )
    I agree with R1. I actually researched raw feeding, and you have to be very careful to ensure that they're getting what they need nutritionally, or give supplements along with the food, which I didn't want to have to do.
    For me, I figured I may as well find a good dog food.
    I went with The Honest Kitchen dog food. I'm only feeding 1 small dog, and I mix it with a dry that the vet said was good, so it doesn't end up being too expensive since she's not eating it exclusively.

    I'm just at my wits end with her drippy nose, and chewing her feet, I just feel bad for her...and that's with prescribed and OTC allergy meds. :(

    So, guess I'll skip the tea then. You're 100%bright, it could be snake oil and/or do more harm than good, don't want to find out the hard way.
    Thanks for throwing up the warning flag R1. ;)

    My vet is an outspoken, up front type, and has a no nonsense personality.
    When I asked him about what was the best to feed her, he asked if I wanted to pick up large poo, or small, tiny, compact poo. He said that cheap food = large poo, mid to more expensive = small poo.
    He also said that (for the most part), any commercially made dog food is nothing like what it started out in life to be, for example, if the main ingredient is chicken or beef, the final product after it's processed is just barely anything other than filler.
    That the high heat cooking process kills most any naturally occurring nutrients, and that basically anything that goes into it has been sterilized...so the humans handling it don't get salmonella or other nasties.
    Then for color and flavor, it's all added back to the base, along with the proper vitamins and nutrients that dogs need.
    He did say not to feed her wheat, and NOTHING with corn because of the mold/fungus that occurs in the growing/storage process.
    Also, he said NOTHING from China, as in treats, food, whatever.
    So, that's pretty much what I go by.
    I'm not saying he's right and someone else is wrong, just passing on what I was told. :)


    Not having much luck but at least it's quiet ;)

    I'll second or third the meatloaf :thumb:
    Sounds like it's going to be meatloaf. :thumb:
     

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    I'm dressed (finally). :unsure:
    :laugh: :facepalm:
    Guess I'll go look for some motivation...
    Need to pull some burger out anyway.
    Not sure what I'll do with it though.*sigh*
    ...I get soooooo tired of figuring out stuff to eat.
    I should have gotten up early enough to go to the farmer's market. :(

    @kad2371 , what are y'all having this weekend? (howz that for forced socialization: :lol: )
    Sorry I can't answer ya, I'm just lurking.:D
    I have no idea yet, still trying to decide. I'm thinking of some kind of chicken/asparagus/cheesy something or other, on a bed of rice sounds good if I can find the recipe I'm looking for.
     

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    Sorry I can't answer ya, I'm just lurking.:D
    Ha ha, nice try.
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    I have no idea yet, still trying to decide. I'm thinking of some kind of chicken/asparagus/cheesy something or other, on a bed of rice sounds good if I can find the recipe I'm looking for.
    Yeah, see that sounds good too!! :drool:
     

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    I'm going to have to search for some o-rings for the tobeco super mini tanks, something I know zilch about:(

    I will do it later, mainly reminding myself :rolleyes: Don't want to leave the recliner :facepalm:

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    I'm gonna live vicariously through all of you for dinner. I'm working. Today and tomorrow.
    Awwwwww :(
    Wish you lived closer, you could swing by and I'd have a to-go for ya. :)
     

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