The M1A1 Buzz Tank

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5cardstud

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Sorry I thought you said what is a killjoy.

And with that being my last f&%^$up today I'll say nighty nite.
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Thanks for the quick VID PAD !!! , nice job , I moved the screw down and increased the size to a 6-32 so you hopefully will not need a syringe to fill it ! .

Mine does nor make the top move ? anyhow I have some new tubs being made for Rev B versions , I need a machine shop to make a bunch of these for me , all my guys are BUSY BUSY !
 

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Thanks for the quick VID PAD !!! , nice job , I moved the screw down and increased the size to a 6-32 so you hopefully will not need a syringe to fill it ! .

Mine does nor make the top move ? anyhow I have some new tubs being made for Rev B versions , I need a machine shop to make a bunch of these for me , all my guys are BUSY BUSY !

Looks like you need to get Lori a lathe or a milling machine.
 

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Well, it was only a matter of time before someone brought in the "You're ripping off X's design" argument.

FYI, this tank is based on a design that Vermonster, YZR, and I developed over on VF. It's not a copy of anyone's work, and he's been given permission by all the involved parties to use the concept, unlike some.
not to start any fights but over on VF the earliest date i can find on any post pertaining to this tank were on 07-04-11. so with this date how is it that it can be said it is based on a tank my the people listed in your comment when the design here and in this link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/182478-hybrid-tank-mod-map-tank-gp-ssr-2.html (third post down) which was posted 04-25-11 are way to similar to be coincidence? the logistics of who is making money off of what is not my concern, but how can anyone think it is acceptable claim the designs of someone else as there own? shame on all for you for making something from someone else's design and not at least giving them credit for it.
 

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not to start any fights but over on VF the earliest date i can find on any post pertaining to this tank were on 07-04-11. so with this date how is it that it can be said it is based on a tank my the people listed in your comment when the design here and in this link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/182478-hybrid-tank-mod-map-tank-gp-ssr-2.html (third post down) which was posted 04-25-11 are way to similar to be coincidence? the logistics of who is making money off of what is not my concern, but how can anyone think it is acceptable claim the designs of someone else as there own? shame on all for you for making something from someone else's design and not at least giving them credit for it.

What I have found is that these tanks have evolved and LOTS of people have been involved no ONE person can say they did it all that is FOR SURE ! ,

I am NOT taking credit for ANY of the design except maybe the locking screw the rest of it is modders area stuff ,We are working on improving it if that matters ????
 

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I agree, this is modder stuff, far to simple for claiming whatever. It is a hype for now, therefore rediculous prices for stuff worth hardly 4 or 5 $ are taken.
Then, I bought four diferent brands of these, and will buy the buzz one as well, because these things do their job perfectly well, and the filling screw is a very nice idea.
 

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What I have found is that these tanks have evolved and LOTS of people have been involved no ONE person can say they did it all that is FOR SURE ! ,

I am NOT taking credit for ANY of the design except maybe the locking screw the rest of it is modders area stuff ,We are working on improving it if that matters ????

So the Modder's area is fair game for profiteering?

Just so you and your potential customers know.
Buzz posted that he was going to market an exact copy of the Gummy Tank a month ago. When I offered to sell him the design rights, we negotiated for days. then he decided to pass on it and told me that he wouldn't market it. I thought I had his word on that. Then to make it worse He goes back on his word. ( Also he scoffed at my fill screw too). He justifies it in the thread as ,,, "Well there are so many versions of tanks on the market that no one can say who's design it is"....... I guess that translates to "After it has been stolen so many times, it's fair game". or If you were dumb enough to post it in the Modder's section It's fair game. Hope you enjoy the profits, doesn't matter to me now, He knows I sold it to someone else. As of yet it is not on the market so I think I can discuss it. It just shocked me that he feels that the Modder's section is open hunting.
 

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Well If I had the proper tools to make these I would.
Okay don't jump me yet.
I have bought several different tanks.
If I could make them I WOULD only be making them for my own personal use or to give away. I have copied several things I have seen BUT to this date I HAVE NEVER SOLD THEM.
I love seeing new Ideals and often use them.
 

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not to start any fights but over on VF the earliest date i can find on any post pertaining to this tank were on 07-04-11. so with this date how is it that it can be said it is based on a tank my the people listed in your comment when the design here and in this link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/182478-hybrid-tank-mod-map-tank-gp-ssr-2.html (third post down) which was posted 04-25-11 are way to similar to be coincidence? the logistics of who is making money off of what is not my concern, but how can anyone think it is acceptable claim the designs of someone else as there own? shame on all for you for making something from someone else's design and not at least giving them credit for it.

So the Modder's area is fair game for profiteering?

Just so you and your potential customers know.
Buzz posted that he was going to market an exact copy of the Gummy Tank a month ago. When I offered to sell him the design rights, we negotiated for days. then he decided to pass on it and told me that he wouldn't market it. I thought I had his word on that. Then to make it worse He goes back on his word. ( Also he scoffed at my fill screw too). He justifies it in the thread as ,,, "Well there are so many versions of tanks on the market that no one can say who's design it is"....... I guess that translates to "After it has been stolen so many times, it's fair game". or If you were dumb enough to post it in the Modder's section It's fair game. Hope you enjoy the profits, doesn't matter to me now, He knows I sold it to someone else. As of yet it is not on the market so I think I can discuss it. It just shocked me that he feels that the Modder's section is open hunting.

Well If I had the proper tools to make these I would.
Okay don't jump me yet.
I have bought several different tanks.
If I could make them I WOULD only be making them for my own personal use or to give away. I have copied several things I have seen BUT to this date I HAVE NEVER SOLD THEM.
I love seeing new Ideals and often use them.

I wouldn't buy one just on principle.

So the one in the modders forum the ssr what ever is an anodized aluminum tank mod? Or is it the Gummytank that is an anodized aluminum tank with a filler port. I find it strange that all of a sudden everybody jumps on this tank when practically every vendor on ecf is offering a tank of some kind. Or is it just a need for attention?
 

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Another quick update. I had my buzz with the prototype tank on it all weekend. On Saturday morning my family and I left for the weekend to a theme park. My buzz and tank stayed in my laptop bag all weekend being bumped around etc... No leaks and it still vapes like a champ...

Right on Padd. I can't wait to get one of these.
 

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The first tank thread I started on a forum that doesn't link to here was on 3/24/11 since folks are looking for history.

They're crying around in a thread in the modders forum now. He's yelling about profiteering and in the same post mad he didn't get his money. Me thinks somebodies needs attention senor.
 

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True, everybody is selling them. What is this all about? Is this something personal, I believe so, a fight for a frustrated deal.

So the one in the modders forum the ssr what ever is an anodized aluminum tank mod? Or is it the Gummytank that is an anodized aluminum tank with a filler port. I find it strange that all of a sudden everybody jumps on this tank when practically every vendor on ecf is offering a tank of some kind. Or is it just a need for attention?
 

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If your talking about me, No I'm not mad about any money. I got paid for the design.
but when 4 people were negotiating to buy something and when it does sell to someone else, then one of the potential buyers starts making it anyway after saying he wouldn't well sir that is all about ethics,,,, not money.
 

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If your talking about me, No I'm not mad about any money. I got paid for the design.
but when 4 people were negotiating to buy something and when it does sell to someone else, then one of the potential buyers starts making it anyway after saying he wouldn't well sir that is all about ethics,,,, not money.

What about all the tanks everyone else is selling? Do you claim them too? Are you the tankmaster now? I think you'll find if you look at the tank Mike is making the only similarity to yours is it holds juice. I bet it doesn't even hold the same amount. I think with all the different tanks out there your deceiving yourself if you think they all copied yours. I have built a bunchy of them and until this never heard of your tank.

You tried to make a deal and it fell through so he made a different one. NOT YOURS. Does yours have anodized ends? I thought not. Does yours have a locking screw? I thought not.
Talk about ethics, do you have a mirror?
 
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